Reggie: "AM2R was a commercial product, that's why it was shut down."

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How was AM2R monetized? I thought it was just some basement grade fan project that took fucking years and years to come together?

It wasn't monetized. You didn't have to pay for it, there was no patreon, and download links didn't redirect to an adfly-like service. It was completely free, with no benefit to the developers beyond recognition.

ummm did you just question reggie i'm gonna need you to delete this post right away

It didn't reggie is retarded

> howdoyoudofellowkids.jpg

this is why we hate nintendo. get the fuck out of my board already you children

Was the team on Patreon or is Reggie straight up lying?

nintendo fags on the receiving end of excrement once again.

There was no Patreon.

I think Reggie needs to read up on what a commercial product is. The REAL reason is for their shitty 3ds reimagining

So, he didn't say "We were working on our own 2D Metroid retelling of the gameboy game."
That would have been an easy defense of the copyright strike, now that the game's announced.
Him not saying that means that the new game is just a total ripoff of AM2R, right?

They could've at least hired the fans instead of getting the no-talent hacks at MercurySteam to make it.
What a glorious fuckup.

Reggie is lying, just like he's done many times in the past

>They weren't charging for it
>But it's a commercial product

How would a total rip off work? Anyway AM2R stole assets so of course it got shutdown. If you want a successful metroid game, go play axiom verge

lol

What I mean is, the fact that he didn't use that defense here means that they got the idea from AM2R.

Damn I hate Reggie. His meme status has carried him too far. Why couldn't Nintendo of America get someone worthy like Koizumi?

they could have just sold it then, for profit

>Him not saying that means that the new game is just a total ripoff of AM2R, right?
This was my initial reaction to the Samus Returns reveal, but it's really impossible to say which came first. Samus Returns really looks like it could be a quick and dirty production (2.5D has that connotation a lot of the time), but it's also totally plausible for Nintendo to make major PR blunders because of pure and simple poor communication.

Bullshit. Even if it was sxomehow being monetized, Nintendo could've threatened to C&D if they didn't remove all means of monetization and maybe pay them reparations.

AM2R started 10 years ago. I think it's safe to say it came first.

Maybe he meant that it had the quality of an official Nintendo game? So it'd be hard for people to differentiate between what's fanmade and what's official? Hence the line "driving the direction of the franchise"

The interesting thing about AM2R is there are so many other detailed romhacks that they don't care about that the whole situation only brings up more questions.

>romhacks
Nah.

>A: Hey I'm selling thing X I made
>B: Hey I'm giving away a copy of thing X that I didn't make
>A: can you stop it?
>B: Why should I? IT'S FREE
Reggie is right and if you can't see it you're retarded.

No it doesn't. He's not going to put conditions on the company for when they're able to or going to take action to protect their intellectual property. That's just not something you do.

>there wasn't a charge, but it was now a commercial product

Basically what he meant was that even though they weren't charging money for it, it crossed the line from simple changes, into something that could actually have an impact on sales of the remake they were already making. And that's when it starts to be a point where they need to protect their IP.

>there wasn't a charge, but it was now a commercial product
I assume by commercial product he means it was a full fledged metroid game, rather than simply a fan work. They didn't want competition with what was basically a commercial metroid game that was free

Makes sense from a business standpoint desu

I honestly don't understand how Sup Forums has gotten so shitty over the years.

>Nintendo made AM2R
????????????????????

I do but I'm not going to say it
Reddit + facebook + neogaf

Lack of self moderation.

Wow user, you actually ARE retarded.

I'm not saying he should do anything different in terms of policy.
It would still have been WAY smarter to say that they killed it to make way for the 3ds game.
Even if it was a lie, that's what I would have said in that scenario.

Sup Forums has always been this bad

Nintendo are so out of touch with literally everything that it hurts.

That would build resentment towards samus returns, don't EVER work in PR
How does it show that they are out of touch? It's like the most non-answer they can give, it's perfect for PR

it was a different kind of bad

you didn't defend your non-faggot status in this statement, so that means you're a faggot, right? That's your logic here.

By the way the commercial part is that it is hosted on websites that have ads, are you fags that clueless?

Oh shit. CEMU devs are fucked.

>Make a remake of a game that's still currently being sold
>Get mad when they shut you down

>reading comprehension completely absent in this thread
He is fucking praising AM2R, saying that it is commercial-level quality product but it is given out for free

What he's probably trying to say is "AM2R had a risk of making people look at Samus Returns and then go 'Oh well I've already played a Metroid 2 Remake so who cares'" but for some reason he's really fucking roundabout with it. Maybe he doesn't want to suggest that an independently developed game could "compete" with a Nintendo product?

The AM2R developers weren't mad though. Only the fans of it.

>Nintendo refuses to release a Metroid game for 15 years
>Fans decide to remake one for free
>Nintendo slaps together a shitty 2.5d remake in a couple of months
>Sends lawyers after the Metroid fans

BASED NINTENDO

Wait, Nintendo is still selling SNES games?

>months
The game has been in development in 2 years you dumb fuck. Also the maps in the Nintendo remake is far more elaborate than those in AM2R and the original

>Wait, Nintendo is still selling SNES games?
Are you asking this as a sincere question?

Uh huh, "years". That's why Nintendo didn't say anything about it at the last 2 E3s.

The only people who believe this have been on Sup Forums for less than 10 years

What about Cemu?

Yes, exactly. Mario odyessy has been in development for years as well and it was revealed this year you dumb shit.

You realize that Nintendo often announces games only a few months before their release, right? They'll sometimes have games that are announced a bit longer before release, but even then it's typically a same-year affair.

Exactly, like how they announced Prime 4 just a few months before it's coming out. What specific date did they say it was releasing again?

>months
???
mynintendonews.com/2017/06/14/sakamoto-talks-about-metroid-samus-returns-dev-time-new-content-and-more/

Don't make stuff up

>driving the direction of the IP

how about you guys drive it back into making interesting 2d games

>nintenkids will literary defend this

>mynintendonews

Next year, based on reggie. A year gap, maybe. Same for Pokemans
What is there to defend desu

Apparently it's due in a year.

Thank you, sometime next year is clearly just a few months away.

You can read the interview with the developer in there, or are you going to ignore evidence? Jesus are you fags that desperate to shitpost?

>CEMU devs are fucked
No they aren't. Making your own emulator isn't illegal.

>they announced one game that won't be out for 1-2 years so every game they announce is 1-2 years away from release upon announcement
I bet you think Switches aren't selling out because there are still some in one random store in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, huh?

Games are generally announced nearish the end of development. Sometimes you'll get announcements the minute development starts, like Prime 4, but most of the time it's near the end.

Prime is due to release next year. It has likely been in development for quite some time, they just don't want to show it yet

The Nintendo defenders ITT seem to be forgetting that the 3DS game is made by hacks and will be completely terrible.
The only way it would be decent is if they steal everything out of AM2R, actually.

He's right, mother fuckers should have made their own ip instead of stealing the Metroid ip. I hope Microsoft does the same to those Halo fan games.

I doubt reggie has anything to do with stuff like this, he's coo he has more important stuff to do, another department probably sees it shuts it down then his secretary writes a letter for him to put out

how's being stupid going for you

Ha if they steal from AM2R they are stealing from themselves, so it goes a full circle?

I stand corrected. It also fits into the mold of being announced nearish to the end of development then.

That's actually the big difference between standard industry development and kickstarter. With kickstarter, you have to announce the game before development even starts. That's why morons get so pissed off over the wait time.
But that's a different conversation altogether.

yo you're kinda dumb.

Do you just want less good things? Is that what you want? Would the world be a better place if AM2R never existed?

Those games got approval.

I don't understand Reggie's logic here, I understand that they shut it down for a reason but something being a commercial product while being made completely free makes no sense. Is he implying that because Nintendo was making a Metroid 2 remake that the AM2R guys were essentially cutting into the actual Metroid's sales and market value?

I guess it could be argued that for sure, since it's sort of like "well I already played this fan remake for free so I'm not buying this other one" But Nintendo doesn't really understand that something like A2MR is made for Metroid fans by Metroid fans and only Metroid fans of previous, or people who ALREADY were into Metroid, were only going to play this game anyway, and not only that, Nintendo should have revealed their Metroid 2 Remake last year for the 30th Anniversary if they were really afraid of A2MR. Not only did A2MR benefit from basically being the only relevant thing a Metroid fan was looking forward to at the time, it was also a time where people seemed to think that Nintendo didn't care about Metroid and were hot off the heels of Federation force and Blast Ball.

TL:DR - Nintendo poorly handled the situation even if they were in the right. Though yes we are getting Metroid now, a year ago it was Metroid's 30th and all Nintendo had to show for it was Soccer. Nintendo probably felt they shouldn't have to compete within their own IP.

>Samus returns is lazy and rush-

Yes

>It also fits into the mold of being announced nearish to the end of development then.

Yes, I remember how Breath of the Wild and Twilight Princess were both announced right near the end of the development. It would have been embarrassing to announce them years in advance and then delay them.

Do you underage idiots seriously not understand how a free remake that anyone can download in seconds would be potentially damaging to sales of the genuine article?

We did this dance last year. I brought up the hypothetical scenario of Nintendo releasing their own remake of Metroid II, and the only response you morons had was "METROID IS DEAD AND NINTENDO IS NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT, SO MUH ILLICIT FANGAME ISN'T STEPPING ON ANY TOES". Surprise! The hypothetical scenario wasn't hypothetical at all, it's exactly what Nintendo was doing.

>Mr. Sakamoto who created Metroid

Zelda games seem to be an exception, and the emergency 2013 direct as a whole

>the new game is just a total ripoff of a fan remake of a game they made 25 years ago
u wot m8?
So if Square Enix remakes Chrono Trigger they'll be ripping off that 3D project they shut down years ago?

Dammit!

It took Nintendo 2 year to revamp Metroid II's map and it took this guy 10 years to copy it, it's kind of sad.

I accept your apology. Please be sure to only make accurate posts in the future.

He got yakuza'd after the Virtual Boy failure.

based nintendo
fuck the fans they buttmad haha i love nintendo

It was hosted on sites with ads you dipshit.
Honestly yes. It wasn't that great, and its only legacy are these awful threads full of shitposting and uneducated teenagers.

They thought development was near the end, and realized they needed more time.
Are you fucking stupid?

AM2R wasn't free you fucking idiots. The websites which hosted the files were monetized due to ads.

>reggie is a scumbag and a liar
as a fatal frame fan in the west ive been screaming this since last gen. fuck NoA

>YFW they killed Iwata too for the WiiU

alright then well, you do you I guess

>fuck the fans
>"""fans""" who shit on a remake even though their free game already got released and is easily obtained

>Nintendo can't even plan development times

How embarrassing.

Yeah, because your post is some MENSA shit.
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metacritic.com/game/3ds/castlevania-lords-of-shadow---mirror-of-fate

>tfw you get to play two different versions of metroid 2

How did AM2R take so long to make if the maps are completely ripped from the original

Fucking THIS. Reggie is a suitfag who only got popular due to memes and charisma. He doesn't care about video games.