Will SMTfags ever recover?

Will SMTfags ever recover?

This is now a Law thread

mastema a shit

I was looking forward to Persona 5 and what I got instead was 80 hours of monotonous bullshit with a garbage story.

NOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS

IT'S NOT FAIR SMTBROS! THIS WAS SUPPOSE TO BE /OUR TIME/! WHY DID WE GET STUCK ON THE 3SHITDS? WHY DIDN'T NINTENDO SHOW SMT V DURING E3?! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK STUPID ASS PERSONAFAGS FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Do you often play jrpgs? Persona 5 offers a lot more variety than most.

That speaks for itself

Apocalypse was really good, what's your point other than being a graphixfag?

Fuck off retard.
Go back to persona and don't ruin SMT with your trashy ass taste.

Integrating that stupid dagger was dumb as fuck and pointless time waster
Having 6 unwinnable boss fights is not fun
Giving the player cheap ass skills that bypass resistances and valancing around that is not good game design
Adding milestones in the base game that can only be achieved by buying DLC is not good business practice
Having the fight the same boss 4 times isn't "cool."
Paying full price for a game that's literally 80% reused assets isn't acceptable

Notice how I didn't bring up the characters once? Don't need to to know its a garbage game.

>putting Japanese games on consoles when the majority of its audience is on the handheld

literally only americans will defend this

>betatron

Why shouldn't they put their games on consoles user?

I'm hoping SMTV/HD comes to ps4 with the success of Persona 5, but I doubt it. If it doesn't then I guess I'll finally have an excuse to by a Switch.

>third worlders
lmao then why persona, a jap game, is on the console?

Why is it always X vs Y or Us vs Them with you retards?

humans are hardwired for us vs them mentalities.

still better than shitsona

This threat now belongs to the one true waifu.
Heretics who have chosen lesser waifus are unwelcome.

>comparing the jrpg kino that is smt to that weaboo bait garbage dating sim
AHAHAHA

>threat

kill yourself

SMT is better on handhelds.

>she'll never follow you around town

How come Nanashi is immune to light element in SMTIVA? Was flynn immune to a certain element too? I forget

Apocalypse was so fucking bad. Jesus.

No. All humans in IV:A null or resist light for some reasons, maybe because they live in the dark for a long time

Never played persona but it looks fun. Smt is adult Pokémon so I'll stick with it

>lawfags btfo
Sorry dude but I refuse to be a pawn in your endless jerk off

>Giving the player cheap ass skills that bypass resistances and valancing around that is not good game design
Just like other SMT games?

Is this an image for ants

I tried asking awhile ago for a high res Verizon but no one posted it. Anyone have it?

It's an improvement gameplay wise over Soul Hackers and iv, so it's my favorite thus far.

Here is a bigger version next time you are looking for a bigger version of an ikage try using an image search.

By not having turbonormies invade the community

>implying he is capable of being anything other than a pawn
>implying his defiance wasn't part of the Great Will's plan
>implying he will be able to escape if he shoves the universe up it's own anus

Yes

This I really don't get why people like to shit on it so much despite the fact that the gameplay is the best in the franchise.

>both series take elements from each-other in their most recent entry

Why fight, clearly they want us to enjoy both.

Man P2's cast was something else

No fuck you

new raidou game WHEN

Does someone have the "Law more like GAAAAY" image?

No

i'm so tired of everything being "us vs them" nowadays cant we just fucking discuss shit and stop drawing lines in the sand

i've never understood why SMT fans feel the need to pick a fight with Persona fans. like yeah you got some normalfags in your fandom, welcome to reality, shit happens. but they are supporting the SMT developers and buying their shit which lets them continue to make SMT games.

no, smt iv was disgustingly casualized

Because m-muh story

Yeah mainline SMT died with based Nocturne. Hopefully 5 is a return to greatness and also has a Sony release

Then comes IV:A which is the second hardest after SJ's final bosses gauntlet

It was harder than nocturne though.

>5 times the resolution
>still manages to have a less clear UI
Defend this

Nocturne is easier than SMT IV, SJ, and Final.

They need to fuck off you can tell your "Friends" to fuck off everytime you can open your mouth and you can even kill them just like usual so I have no.idea.why it triggers so many people.

IDK if I tried it or not but I couldn't find it. Regardless, thanks man

Hahaha no...

>Yeah mainline SMT died with based Nocturne
Nocturne killed mainline SMT. Nocturne is fucking nothing like mainline SMT before or after. Spinoffs like DDS and Soul Hackers are more like mainline SMT before and after Nocturne.

Nocturnebabbies need to fuck off.

How come other demons didn't try to make their own godslayers in smt4? The most similar ones seemed to be Mara with Maruo & Danu w/ Nozomi. Was there no gain from doing so, unlike dagda who had extreme views?

I wish there was more The White oc so I could bantz back with you :(

Is this your way of making a joke?

Hahaha no

;)

>muh nocturne baby ad hominem
Get overyourself nintendtoddler. Nocturne is the best SMT and is essential Sup Forums core alongside great games such as hl2 and deus ex

>1 boss has a trick you need to figure out on how to beat him.
>Once you know that he is piss easy just like all the other bosses.
user please.

Apparently the story isn't the best and while it reads a bit like fanfic it was still a good story

Persona 3 is also called essential Sup Forums core and make it to a top 100 list

Soul hackers is such a great game.

What mode are y'all playing on? It's easier than Soul Hackers and uh iv. Maybe y'all just don't know how to into fuse?

The only reason why Nocturne is easier is because based Demifiend is a billion times stronger than the protags of the games you mentioned. The true way to play Nocturne is a hard mode Demifiend only run.

A lot of main character designs ruined the immersion but it was so good

Danu needed a body in IV. As to why they don't make godslayers maybe not all demons know about messiah's.

Tips for beating him?

War

Why is there a dick in persona?

Too bad I will never get a chance to play it because fuck 240pds

Because why not?

I hated the jade dagger but the items made it worth it.
Cheap ass skills? That stuff is always in the game but not until later and even then the game is still hard.

Because atlus shat the bed and went crazy with Apocalypse. They didn't have the same careful planning and cohesiveness that IV had. Plus look at shit like Akiras sister and the white which just got seemingly ignored completely.

I mean c'mon, you're telling me the group who wants to nuke the universe due to humans being caught in *record scratchs* infinite conflict have NOTHING to say or at least get mentioned in the game that says Godslayer a million times?

Why not play the original version on the ps1 then?

>best
DDS2 was more enjoyable.

Is that hard mode bc I forget, but the inclusions of "continues" made the game much easier.

>Hero tells everything to fuck off
>Aleph kills YHVH
>Flynn kills both halves of Satan who is as strong as Nocturne Lucifer and tells everything to get out of his Tokyo
>Nanashi kills YHVH and replaces him, or tells YHVH to fuck off

Meanwhile in Nocturne
>Congrats for punching that discoball Demifiend you are my best underling now
Not my fault your protag has absolutely no balls mate

>Akiras sister
Akira's sister turns out to be asahi or that is what /smtg/ says that wss written in the nip only artbook of IVA.

The chosen of the white in that multiverse is Flyn.
You do not control Flyn in Apocalypse

I think I'd rank the endings for Iv/A as follows

>IVA Anarchy
>IV Neutral
>IV Bonds
>Chaos
>Law
>White

Kinda, it is not the hardest difficulty but it is harder than the game's normal mode which is real easy.

Seems correct to me.

>Adding milestones in the base game that can only be achieved by buying DLC is not good business practice

huh?

Johnathan and Hoy also see them in a dream just like Flynn does. Besides, that's no reason for them to not make an appearence or reference in Apocalypse.
Makes sense but that shouldn't stop them from mentioning her. Look at Akira in Infernal Tokyo. He visits her grave occasionally and cares for it. In IVA she doesn't even het mentioned even in Akiras memories when Nanashi dreams.

I am talking about gameplay mechanics dumbass autist. Lore wise Demifiend would still probably rip Nanashi and Flynn apart limb by limb

Moar semen demons when?

>Anarchy best
You are grounded Dagda

So how long until Atlus tries to grab some of that mobile money and makes a gacha game

I just honestly don't understand threads like this
The only persona game that didn't outsold smt game that was released enarby is persona 3
Did persona 5 changed something even more?

I don't agree with the means but it is the best end. I think we'll have a secret Nanashi battle in SMT Next ala Demifiend in DDS thanks to Stephens warning about other Messiahs (player characters) coming from other universes.

Fuck off cyrus.

>Demifiend only

Is that even possible?

Law>Neutral>Bonds>=white>chaos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anarchy

Can you explain why The White is so low? Also what's the diff between Bonds and Neutral?

Yeah it is but it takes alot of planning and patience if you want to win without grinding

Probably, with enough patience and autism anything is possible and he seems to have more than enough of the latter so he probably did.

How is white possibly better than Anarchy? Hell how is ANYTHING above the neutral/bonds ends?