Fantasy or Science Fiction?

Fantasy or Science Fiction?

the greatest story in gaming is sci-fi so i'll go with that

scifi have so many BAD successful examples on movie/tv that people's perception is just warped now

Both

Both, but without gay shit like elves.
Make them space elves.

The original Isekai.

Thomas Covenant was 1977

Elves aren't gay.

Little hairy men living in caves are gay.

Science Fiction

Science Fiction when its done well.
If its done poorly, fantasy.
Poorly written fantasy>poorly written sci-fi

All fantasy is just lord of the rings knock offs.
This is objective truth. Prove me wrong.

Alternative history science fiction like Nazis winning the war or communism in America

japanese mechs are ridiculous

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inb4 nuh uh it's sci fi because of the last 2 minutes of the game

That's why they're good

That's the whole point, it's meant to be aesthetic.

There are no such things as "realistic mechs", you would build warships. "realistic" and "mechs" don't really belong in the same sentence. Realistic mechs would basically be slightly more mobile tanks or flying tanks.

I love scifi but mechas are stupid. Only works when blended with fantasy senarios like Xenogears.

Shut up Carl Jung

t. Xenogears fan

Science Fantasy

>EVA
>Mecha

this, you can have mechs that are more believable but not realistic.
t./m/anly fellow

science fantasy

>Eva 01
>mecha
0/10 image

Ripped off DVA from Overwatch

Ah, you too are a /m/an of culture.

Science Fantasy wins baybee

Cybuster is my favorite mecha

mecha

If mechs are so good, why has there never been a good game besides Mechwarrior 2?

>evangelion
>mecha

Lord of the Rings is just a knock off collection of European folklore tales and myths, which in turn are just knock offs of reality.

but this looks like shit
retarded weeb

I want to get in the fucking robot

The foundation of "realistic" Western mechs that everybody parades around like the holy grail comes from Japan too, pal. Battletech and Mechwarrior stole countless designs from Macross.

delusion - the post

Yeah, and Japan's culture was pieced together using castoffs from Europe and China. What's your point?

japs just add shitty aesthetics, ridiculous swords and faggy teenagers to pilot them

You're retarded. The initial designs were so blatantly stolen that they had to be removed, named the "unseen designs" and changed just enough to avoid copyright infringement.

Weird mix of both.

>that full 3D movement
>the stomping steps if you move while firing
>Defense Matrix's visuals
>ultimate is a nuke that does so much damage that the only thing that can survive its damage directly is a full health ulting Winston, but it still drops him from 1000 to 5.
I think within the confines of keeping her and her mech reasonably within the same size range and feeling of the other characters, they did pretty well with making it feel like you're piloting a mech. It's part of why I like her so much.

>Evangelion
>Mecha

They're magic

PSO is entirely sci-fi though. Only Phantasy Star 1 has genuine fantasy elements.

>MUH REALISTIC WESTERN MECHS, WE WUZ ORIGINAL AND SHIET

yea I agree

Yeah fuck dwarves

any porn with her in that v pose?
I'll be very disappointed in the internet if there isn't

Ho ho, I bet that gets posted around shitholes like Gamefaqs and people are all like "yeah I agree with this (totally not reverse bait) image!"

cherrypicking - the post

I like both of them. I lean to fantasy because there's less fun mecha rpg these days.

it works quite well because no one plays airmech

You want me to keep going? There are several of these images.

>"Western Robot" is from a Japanese anime

K E K

user, look at the UN Spacy insignia, it's from Dimensional Fortress Macross.

delusion
cherrypicking
bait

thats three strikes

I hate to say this, but first post best post.

It's more like sci-fantasy though, but thematically is still sci-fi

Fantasy is usually character driven, with simple save the world stories and a fixed morality, with an uninspired setting, even if it has tons of lore. LOTR's influence is just too big, so weirder stuff like the Planescape campaigns are rare.

Good Sci-fi relies on the point, the message. It's usually story-driven, with a relatively grounded setting that sometimes doesn't even need to be futuristic. All it needs is a recognizable world and society, with a twist, the element that makes it different from our own, what makes it fiction and is used as the starting point to say something of interest.
It's not enough to make laser guns and a dystopian world. What makes it relevant is what you make with it, the themes that comunicate a meaningful message for the audience to think upon. Something that fantasy (and to be fair, most current mainstream sci-fi) very rarely has, and even when it does, the themes are usually very shallow and uninteresting.

Also this.

christ this looks bad

Vanguard Bandits

>evangelion
>not a true mecha like VOTOMS or even fucking Gundam

Ugh

If it looks western, it must be made by westerners. Just like Dark Souls!

sci fi sequel when?

So what you gonna pilot when this alien comes in and breaks your action figure?

you mean there's several instances of people cherrypicking copied mech designs while ignoring original mech designs?
Fascinating.... yeah you can keep going, but it wont ever be more than confirmation bias and cherrypicking

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>The Westcuck's mind has been so shattered by this piece of news that he's posting garbage

Science Fantasy, Star Wars is dope

>Mfw just realised I got baited

Fug. Also, it took me 38 fucking captchas to post, what has Hiromoot done to Sup Forums?

Lmao, these stolen designs have been known about for nearly three decades by both Battletech and Mechwarrior fans.

How does it feel knowing what you've been praising all the this time is Japanese designs?

use legacy captcha

What would a "realistic" mech look like? So that it wouldn't be just a worse tank.

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Captcha is mental. Click all cars there are no cars so I just click a manhole and it counts.

an armored core with tank legs

this

I like both equally, but am a bit pickier when it comes to SciFi.

there's no such thing as a mech that isn't just a shitty tank

Fucking rad, thanks.

>Someone knows the difference between sci-fi and science fantasy
Amen, Science Fantasy is by far the best.

Doesn't exist

The only possible uses for mechs aren't as tank substitutes

both

>japanese invented mechs
>making something popular = inventing it
Jeez. Pic related courtesy from H.G. Wells(1897). You might recognize that tripod from original japanese games such as Earth Defense Force 4.1 (2015)

Oh its piloted mechs you wanna talk about? Lets talk about Galactic Patrol(1950) or the battle suits in Starship Troopers(1958), etc etc.

eva counts as mecha user, the evas may not technically be mecha, but eva counts as mecha

Tripods will never not look dope.

>How does it feel knowing what you've been praising all the this time is Japanese designs?
>implying I ever gave a shit about battletech or mechwarrior
you see thats the problem with you. you're obviously butthurt about a specific instance. An instance most of us dont care about.

>I am retarded

Nowhere did I state Japan invented mechs. I said Japan's designs are the entire foundation for the current day "realistic mechs" everybody wanks off over.

You clearly do care when you said Japanese mechs are dumb, specifically referring to what they create compared to the West.

Whatever, I'm just gonna keep posting these.

Don't bother, they still want to live in a fantasy world where Japanese mechs are all Gundam Wing and Evangelion and the west has a unique identity full of practical down to earth designs. They are the height of delusion.

name some foundational western mech designs that aren't related to battletech

What series combine the two? As in Magic stuff in a sci-fi setting

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>They turned my favourite Macross mech into that abomination on the right

God damnit.

Xenoblade
Actually, any Xeno game
Basically most of the Final Fantasy games
Star Wars
Warhammer 40k

seems like you're an insecure faggot weeb, that's all there is to it

all sci-fi is magic user

>writing all this in a shitposting thread
I feel bad for you user, maybe one day we'll have a real thread on this subject

Escaflone?

Depends, does it still count as magic if it has a pseudo-scientific in-universe explanation?

Whatever, Westcuck.

Fantasy. I don't like mechas.

>a pseudo-scientific in-universe explanation

that's practically the definition of scifi

Fantasy mecha is the most baller shit out there.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Kiseki games

Some Tales Of games, the main theme of Phantasia is that magic tech is killing the world because there isn't enough mana to keep powering the technology humans keep building