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Glad we are finally at an agreement.

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1 = NV > 2 >>> 3 >> 4

brain meme thread?

Fallout 1 and 2 are the only good ones.

NV is better than 3

>fallout 3
>originality
it was every idea from Fallout 1 and 2 mashed together that made no sense and was retarded as shit

Hey look its another
>Hey guys i'm a virtue signaling Sup Forumsipster who doesn't like games with fun gameplay and I only play games with tons of dialogue options because i'd rather be playing an interactive novel than playing a fun video game
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Really gets that noggin joggin don't it?

1 > 4 = 2 > NV > 3

The only thing I don't understand is why all the fallout 4 hate, they stripped all the rpg elements but people still complain as if the game was a rpg

This user get it.

>I don't know what an RPG is

Shouldn't you be playing Fallout 4?

>implying the only fun part of videogames is the shooting/stealth/movement&dexterity-based challenges
wew lad, i guess you've got a low threshold for noggin joggin, eh?

Fallout 1 and 2 are slow clunky garbage

Fuck off contrarian

I can't stand Todd games. Skyrim and NV are the two purchases I probably regret the most.

>I don't know what a video GAME is
Honestly senpai its almost like video games most important aspect is the gameplay or something regarldess of genre.

Shouldn't you be reading a CYOA goosebumps novel or something?

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>hurr gameplay is just shooting things i wanna kill stuff xD

kill urself my man

>The Gamers are here
FTFY Sup Forumsipster cuck

New Vegas wasn't Todd though

Not a argument

Rising was better than V though

If you're after gameplay why the fuck would you play either of them?

Nah dude gameplay is how you interact with the world and it just happens the primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

I mean it truly does get your neurons firing that some people might enjoy the GAMEplay in a video game over the telltale aspects of the game because they like video games or something and not what happens next time on the next episode of of Minecraft Story Mode Season 2 you fucking story cuck.

you sound awfully fucking butthurt about the whole series.

>Nah dude gameplay is how you interact with the world and it just happens the primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

just because you only play shit games doesn't mean that's true

Fallout 3/4, and Fallout New Vegas are trying to do two very different things, and thus end up feeling like very different games despite being very similar

>primary way you interact with the world tends to be through combat.

Except this is NPC interactions in an RPG.

Yeah this is a good point. Why would you play Fallout 3 or New Vegas if you're after gameplay when Fallout 4 exists with tons of mods to tweak it to however you want.

Like hey want mods that make it a hardcore post apoc survival game that BTFO's Stalker and Metro? You got it.

i know your trolling but fallout 3 probably has 15 times as many mods and so does new vegas.

>i don't realize good games have goal tiers
>i don't realize you can make a game more interactive by having higher order goals that affect your lower order goals and vice versa
>i don't realize that games with lower variability and more focus on immediate reaction time above all else are actually for brainlets

>basically the same
>implying the minor adjustments to the core mechanics weren't significant improvements when looking at the game in the long run
The changes to the repair system and reputation for example were really small additions that improved the experience. They might seem like minor changes, but over the course of a play through, they end up having a big impact.

>clunky
love it when cocksuckers use random buzzwords without providing any arguments
just admit you were too confused by ui to progress

And the gameplay base they're built upon makes it effectively impossible to ever reach the same level of gameplay smoothness and complexity as most other first-person shooters. At least Fallout 4 is notably closer to the genre standard.

Just because you only play glorified visual novels that claim to be a video games doesn't make you a gamer.
Role playing GAME
Video GAME
GAMEplay

Gameplay is still the most important aspect regardless of genre. I mean hell there only seems to be this warped cookie cutter cancer from Sup Forumsipsters on what an RPG is. For example look at Japanese RPGs ffs. Barely any of them have dialogue options and then you get shit like Dark Souls which while still having a fuck ton of stats and such is still a gameplay focused game as it should be as any VIDEO GAME should be.

Yep as
Said

There's no mod to fix the gameplay in those games in comparison to Fallout 4.

>role playing isn't gameplay

Writing GAME doesn't in anyway disprove that NPC interactions are GAMEplay in an RPG.

Not in action RPGs, sonny. The only RPGs that have a massive focus on character interaction are isometric RPGs and games that are practically visual novels.

Eh i guess ill actually agree with you there.
As someone whos autistic and has to be as optimal as possible every time i play new vegas i just end up abusing the shit ai by killing them from like 2 grids away so they cant ever fight back. Basically ruin the fun of the game. But its the games fault for allowing that shit.

none of those mods fix the awful writing and retarded quests
polished turd is still a turd because modders know jack shit about balancing

>gamers
holy fuck kill yourself

How can you get this meme wrong? The first ones supposed to be widely accepted fact with the options becoming more outlandish and strange the further down you go.

people making these things are aware that the last panel is supposed to be "and now they just went full retard and couldn't be further away from the progression of the stance", right?

Nah the last one is complete horseshit.
>Fallout 3 only has two factions that you can't gain reputation or influence with, and you can only join one of them
>NV has 4 main factions you can gain favor with and betray + a completely alternate ending if you side with Elijah
>Fallout 3 has percentage speech checks and occasional stat checks
>New Vegas has checks for all of your main stats + perks + skills, as well as skill books to give leeway for these checks instead of percentages
>VATS in Fallout 3 makes your character invincible and borders on God Mode after acquiring Grim Reaper's Sprint, VATS in New Vegas can still get you killed if you don't use it wisely and perks are only available after every other level
>All of the changes in Hardcore mode in New Vegas
>Fallout 3 recycles supermutants, Enclave, and Brotherhood of Steel for no logical reason, while reappearing factions in New Vegas have changed or progressed to their logical conclusion (the Enclave are down to a few retired remnants, the Brotherhood of Steel is barely clinging to life, the NCR is a superpower, the Followers of the Apocalypse have improved their technology and skills, supermutants are not all dumb brutes and most of them are gone, etc)
>Content in Fallout 3 allows you to explore anywhere you want, but because designers have no idea what level you'll be at any given area enemies in most areas will be hilariously weak or have shitty gear. Content in New Vegas allows you to go directly to New Vegas from the start if you're willing to risk the more dangerous enemies or take a safer route where you can visit each settlement in any order you choose.
>Bullets in Fallout 3 don't even shoot straight, while they do in New Vegas when iron sights are used. Armor is actually useful in New Vegas because of Damage Threshold, while in Fallout 3 on very hard difficulties there is no point in wearing armor because you'll die in a few hits regardless.

Fallout 1 and 2 fans are the wildest and strangest hipster faggots in the franchise, because Tactics and BoS fans don't exist. I'm not convinced that most of the people who like them have actually finished either of the two.

Go play CoD or CS:GO you brainless troglodyte

>he's so easily upset he got baited by a fucking exploding brain meme

Nice job, Obsidiot.

@383708753

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Well as evidenced by this thread there are actual retards who believe this shit, so that's for them and not you, faggot.

this is the most retarded thing i've seen today

different kind of game. more immediate and fast paced gameplay that are about reading and responding to prompts on screen (once you learn to block the game becomes fairly easy, even on the higher difficulties). rising was more fun in its minute to minute gameplay, but it is a game for brainlets.

No it actually isn't considering you can roleplay any game. I mean fuck you can pop on dark souls and pretend you're shrek. That doesn't mean that's what the gameplay is. That's just how YOU play the game in some autistic manner.
Good thing writing isn't that important in a gameplay focused game.
>The hi/v/e has become so Sup Forumsipster on a gaming image board that they don't even like the term gamer
This just goes to show you how the neo Sup Forumsipsters truly aren't actual gamers. You're cucks who don't like video games and invaded this board which used to be good with your nasty ass visual novel tier culture and the people who actually stick around trying to counter your degeneracy since we don't want fucking non gamers on our board just get a headache honestly.
Woah yeah TOTALLY d00d you sure got him with that CLASSIC 2008 meme slightly updated to include CSGO in a thread only talking about singleplayer games.

>people actually defending FO4

>our board
>d00d

looks like i've fallen for bait

NV is better than 2

2 was literally the Borderlands of its time, the amount of actual quality world building sacrificed for pop culture references is fucking ridiculous

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>thinks bait threads like this won't attract legitimate retards who believe this shit
Poe's law, nigger.

>When autism flares up so bad he can't tell the difference between 1 reply in the post being ironic mocking and the other not

see

ironic shitposting is still shitposting

flip the top for the bottom and youd be correct.

this unironically

>mass replying
kys attention whore

>t. brainlet

>our board

thinken...

NV has invisible walls everywhere you go while 3 and 4 feel nice and wide open

What do you expect me to say to this idiotic post?

Gameplay focused games still game goal tiers, and interactions with the world that affect your lower order goals, etc.

Gameplay focused games can still offer more variability and choices without having to turn it into a fucking visual novel.

Switch 4 and 2. Only the first and last hour of MGS2 are amazing. Big Shell is horrible.

>minor differences
holy shit you are retarded

3 and 4 have invisible walls in story

People who say the games have minor differences tend to be focusing on the gameplay exclusively since to most people that's all that matters.

>Content in Fallout 3 allows you to explore anywhere you want, but because designers have no idea what level you'll be at any given area enemies in most areas will be hilariously weak or have shitty gear. Content in New Vegas allows you to go directly to New Vegas from the start if you're willing to risk the more dangerous enemies or take a safer route where you can visit each settlement in any order you choose.

All of fallout 3 level scales, so this shouldn't be the case. I think level scaling mapwide is a bad thing (hence why it was cut in NV and reworked in 4) and that NV is a better game than 3, but its unfair to just make shit up about teh game that doesnt happen

>NV has invisible walls everywhere you go while 3 and 4 feel nice and wide open

both 3 and 4 had invisible world boundaries that just fucking said "you cannot go this way".

Also the notion that NV has more random ass invisible walls is just plain wrong

lol he's mad because OP made fun of fallout

>he thinks gameplay is just the control mechanics
Absolutely brainlet

Not that guy but no fucking shit there is world boundaries. Also are you really delusional enough to say nv having more invisible walls is wrong lmao.

>People who say the games have minor differences tend to be focusing on the gameplay exclusively since to most people that's all that matters.

you speak for everyone who says that the games are really similar? No.
also
>basing the value of a fallout game using gameplay as an argument

fallout 1 and 2 had shitty game play but are some of the greatest games ever made.

NV world boundaries were occupied by mountains or NCR and legion checkpoints, and actually felt justified.
3 and 4 boundaries were invisible was that said "go fuck yourself"

I think sheer amounts of weapons are a retarded argument, and this is coming fro someone who liked NV more than 3. All the uniques in both games are minor reskins with statistical differences, with a few exceptions like compliance regulator and jingweis shocksword. Lots of the weapons in NV are a bit samey but use different ammo and have different stats (ex the 357 and the 44 mag revolvers play the same, with different numbers)

this was the post i wanted, thank you. goodnight, brainlet.

big shell was fine, all the middle bits of 2 were great and necessary as build-up for the final parts of the game. though i recognize not everyone feels that way. 4 should not be moved up at all, and if anything should be moved down. chapters 1+2 were fine, but pretty straightforward. best parts were the opposing factions that you could side with the rebels, though i would've liked to see a lot more possible ways for those events to play out, with a wider array of possible conclusions to those skirmishes, maybe with long term gameplay effects (like in 3 how you could blow up storage sheds to tamper with the enemy, the sorrow fight, and the tracker+ocelot unit/extra cutscene) chapter 3 was a good concept poorly executed. chapter 4 got by on nostalgia, mostly. chapter 5 was fucking nothing.

No I don't speak for everyone but I used to work at gamestop which is where most of the nromies got their games and generally yunno that's what the vast majority of people talked about when in relation to Fallout 3 to New Vegas. I heard it plenty of times. Fallout New Vegas is just Fallout 3 in a desert with iron sights and better weapons so the gameplay is better, or something along those lines.

Also i'm not that dude sperging over gameplay but i'd to disagree with you at a fundamental level my dude. How can a game have shitty gameplay and be the best games ever made? That doesn't even make any sense.

>Having such a pea brain you think unfinished games are god tier

You must also have shrapnel in your skull

>Fallout series
>first-person shooters

That's because it DOESN'T make any fucking sense. All these cucks defending this trash tier isometric borefests aren't interested in fun games with good gameplay. Lemme pull out a list its a bit outdated but here's a list of games that are actually fun based on gameplay alone

>This Triggers the Sup Forumsipster cuck

1. Skyrim
2. Fallout 4
3. Fallout New Vegas/Fallout 3
4. Oblivion
5. MGSV
6. Bloodborne
7. Dark Souls 2
8. Shadow of Mordor
9. Dying Light
10. Kingdom Hearts 2
11. Red Dead Redemption
12. Just Cause 2
13. GTAV
14. Far Cry 4
15. Assassins Creed 4
16. Watch_Dogs
17. Half Life
18. Half Life 2
19. Grafitti Kindom
20. Infamous 2
21. Metal Gear Solid 3
22. Metal Gear Solid 4
23. DOOM 4
24. Hotline Miami 2
25. Spyro 3

Difference is the borders of NV are really thin. You have to actively try to find the boundaries of 3 and 4

>le unfinished game meme

>dumb frogposter has shit taste

what a surprise

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>How can a game have shitty gameplay and be the best games ever made? That doesn't even make any sense.

IK that it sounds confusing, but accually play the first 2 games and you'll see how its possible

> I heard it plenty of times. Fallout New Vegas is just Fallout 3 in a desert with iron sights and better weapons so the gameplay is better, or something along those lines.

all because more people believe something to be true than people believe it to be false, doesn't mean it's true.

I actually have played them. I didn't like them. Found em quite boring honestly. Also I mean from a pure gameplay perspective they weren't wrong if you think about it.

Have a (You).

>All these cucks defending this trash tier isometric borefests aren't interested in fun games with good gameplay

along with fallout 1 and 2, quake3 and tf2 are some of my favorite games ever.
Whens the last time you heard someone say that they play quake for the story or characters?

>old as fuck meme
>>>/facebook/

Sounds like you just like games that are outdated. You're either a Sup Forumsipster or someone with nostalgia goggles living in the past.

>Found em quite boring honestly
I'll admit, I did too when I first played it, although I was very young at the time. When I came back and took the time to read and immerse myself, I got a lot better time

>Giving Neogaf (You)s
Sup Forums is lost

Its prob just a generational thing man. I'm like 24 I grew up on platformers and oldschool action games on PS1 and N64 and stuff like that. I just can't really get into much slow paced games.