Why is this game never talked about?

Why is this game never talked about?
Does literally no one play it?

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doing fractals daily just get so monotonous after awhile and the new raid bosses add nothing much of content. I'm just taking a long break now, played a fair share of the game at 25k ap

Amazing during the first month ( so when everyone was leveling) then turned to shit fast since it has no endgame

Just like every other "WoW-killer" MMO

Sorry OP, I was going to talk about GW2 but then I fell asleep.

it's literally second life.

There's not much to talk about. The game is pretty mediocre. The only fun part of it is exploring and jumping puzzles, but that can only entertain you for a week or two at best.

Its alive but no one talks about it.

It has the 3rd largest subreddit (Just lost to FFXIV a week ago)

I see people in game saily

i guess game still attracts alot of new players . i wonder how they get their advertising? famous YT podcasts channels and vg blogs doesn't even mention them at all since Heart of thorns

It was a technically weak game with garbage combat and writing that only got worse the further you progressed. Only heard bad things about ArenaNet's management and attempt to salvage this mess.

I play it. It feels full enough but there are some areas that just feel devoid of other players.

>come back to the game after a year or two cause i was burned the fuck out
>oh cool, new content
>nah, we took that away. because reasons

well, fuck you too, buddy

Because of this, and it the LEAST of the problem. I would rather recommend other mmo

I'll never understand why they remove content from GW2. It makes no sense.

games decent. hows it compare to ESO? Is ESO worth playing if i moderately enjoyed GW2?

ESO actually listen to their playerbase and doesn't fuck them over

I wonder who could be behind this post

That's been fixed for literal years.

As does Anet. I don't see the point of your post.

I will never not be mad about how much wasted potential this game had. If the first few big patches had been permenant, engaging endgame content, I would still be playing. Instead we got shit like fractals, one of the worst dungeon experiences I have ever had.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/318086/when-has-zos-ever-actually-listened-to-the-playerbase
Here is a good list of them. I don't even think Todd even work on ESO recently. Meanwhile, Anet sold an incomplete expansion and shit out cash shop like no tomorrow ON THE SAME WEEK THE EXPANSION WAS RELEASE.

>implying

The game died years ago. Writers quit about halfway through and were replaced with SJWs. No good content has been released outside of Raids which are toddler-level Raids (still fun though, I'll give them that).

FFXIV getting rebooted into an amazing game was the final nail in the coffin and GW2 has been on life support ever since. Their development team was culled significantly when they didn't meet their financial expectation because NCSoft is a heartless fucking mother of a publisher, so now they're trapped in a cycle where they can't add quality content because they don't have enough developers, but they can't hire more developers because they don't have enough money, but they can't make money if they don't have quality content...you get where that's going.

ESO is significantly better

>If the first few big patches had been permenant,
>wanting Scarlet and the fanfic of a story to be permanent

The combat sucks!

It seemed *fine* on paper but they just missed something hard to pinpoint.

It doesn't feel like anyone is attacking anyone else - just swinging at air and causing other character's health to drop.

I even installed addons that made it more of a third-person shooter, so you had to aim at enemies to fire off spells and it used a third-person over-the-shoulder camera but it can't save it.

Somehow the first game was both more confusing but everyone felt more solid. Maybe because you can't walk through people while swinging your arms?

Good, fuck em

Eh, while I agree it's also a shame. The game had a lot of potential that got flushed down the drain due to some bad decisions by the people on top. Unlike SWTOR and ESO though, the game is already F2P so there's no real way for them to switch marketing models and recover from their tailspin.

>because NCSoft is a heartless fucking mother of a publisher

Learned that ever since they killed city of heroes

Fuck you NCSoft, from the bottom of my heart

Some friends convinced me to pick it up when it first came out. It was ok, but the one thing that stood out for me was how fun the Engineer class was. Tons of weapon sets you could swap out in combat which would change your abilities on the fly, and some of them were pretty different (There was a mortar you could use which gave you lots of range and splash damage, and a potion set you could use to buff/heal your allies with, and a few other strange things).

It kind of reminded me of Warhammer, in that the biggest thing going for it was the class design.

>No endgame
>Gear Treadmill
>Worse story than TORtanic
>Story rips off Skyrim with its "KILL TEH EVUL DRAGUNZ!" shit
>The entire game has you killing the bad guys as a moralfaggot, without an option to join them
>No likeable NPCs anywhere
>Choices in personal story doesn't matter
>Technology level is retarded across the entire board, one race has borderline sci-fi technology vs generic medieval humans and steampunk cats
>Zero roleplaying elements, your character does all the talking for you automatically
>Shit writing
>destroyed servers based on clients' language in favor of a messy, incoherent piece of shit megaserver system that doesn't work
>Sylvari is a cookie cutter mary sue race
>No dedicated tank or healer
>Killed CoH
>Arenanet bans whoever they please
>Arenanet consists of dA tumblr SJW writers, jews, communists AND nazis somehow
>Published by NCSoft
>Is designed for and by weeaboos and children
>No mounts
>No GvG, NO FUCKING GvG. IN A GUILD WARS GAME

Easily the worst MMO ever

>the game is already F2P
It a fucking glorified demo.

GW2 skill system - shit
combo fields - shit
dodge button - shit
movement - floaty shit
skill progression - shit
story - shit
gear system - shit
wvw - time zone based pointless shit
party play and cooperation - shit
dungeons - pure shit because of above
community interaction - nonexistent

Original game was great. Became clear that ANet had no fucking clue what was good about their game long before 2. 2 was dead on arrival.

>Became clear that ANet had no fucking clue what was good about their game long before 2
NCsoft got involved, all the people that disagree with them left, and NCsoft hired hack to make the game

Jesus Christ...

GW2 when announced
>no more kill 10 rat quests!
>personal story
>no more gear treadmill
>you'll have to take on all dem elder dragons!
>regular content updates
>big amazing world

GW2 at release
>Kill 10 rat quests only
>Personal story is awful and then handed off to some sylvari fag
>gear treadmill
>you only ever see one. All the others are just busy jerking off i guess
>content updates are temporary. No plans for Cantha or Elona expansion.

Fucking horrifying

>GW1
>There is no right or wrong, no black or white. Every character and group have their own reasons for their actions.
>Fighting alongside rurik, leaving behind your homeland in order to save your people.
>Leading what is left of the party through the shiverpeaks, without a leader and without guidance to make the final trek to Lion's Arch.
>Cross the sea towards the crystal desert, an ancient land that is now only a relic of the past.
>Winning Heroes' Ascent ( PvP ) to truly ascend and gain the favour of the gods
>Traveling to a land troubled by the plague, chasing a man that desperately tries to save his homeland.
>Travelling across a frozen sea and a dying forest uncovering the secrets of an ancient land.
>Crossing the desert fighting alongside an oppressed people.
>Lead the sunspears and order of whispers through the depths of the abyss
>Mhenlo, Cynn, Devona and the rest of the bunch were always at your side until the end.

>GW2
>you are awesome here fight this evil dragon lol

As opposed to leap years?

GW2 combat is legitimately awful. Worse than WoW, TERA, Blade and Soul, FFXIV, all of them. There is no structure, combo fields are fucking stupid, and dodge invulnerability relegates the game to twitch based dogshit. The dungeons are just pure shitfests.

GW2 is pure trash with ZERO, and I mean ZERO redeeming factors.

I like blasting combo fields.
It's a neat interaction.

>They got rid of the holy trinity which just makes the game a spam fest.
>Not to mention they decided it would be best to choose your skills for you depending on what weapon you're using.
>Very few weapon/armor skins. The original threw skins at you.
>No dual professions
>Bosses don't drop signature weapons
>Small stuff like every class and gender having a different emote
>PvP is garbage
>Muh lore
>No expansions planned
>Living Story
>Scarlet
>Trahearne
>Ruined the campaign with Personal Story that can be entirely skipped
>3/4 servers are dead. Server pop counts are incorrect.
>Gems
>HoM rewards were underwhelming
>leasbian transfuck pandering
>Trahearne
>They only see Guild Wars 2 as their game. They could care less what the players want.
>It's not Guild Wars 1 HD
>Trahearne

>fuck over your current players by making a shitty expansion with little content cost the same as a full priced game
>lol but you get the base game for free when you buy it!
>of course you can't just buy the expansion silly

Shitty, clunky, simplistic combat
WvWvW is doorwar zergfest
Community is full of brony faggots who are completely delusional
Downed mechanic in PvP
Spam-based combat
Skills based on weapons
Dodge button is buggy and boring
No tanks, just a clusterfuck of DPS classes
PvE is full of boring kill x quests
World not persistent due to overflow channels and instances
Themepark fast travel anywhere
One skill bar
Ugly, non-customizable, casual UI
No world PvP
No endgame progression
Terrible auction house
Lame story
Laughable voice acting
Runs like shit on modern rigs - No optimization
Cash shop advantages
abysmal visual nerfs on effects

/thread.

>Very few weapon/armor skins
The are tons of weapon skins in the game, the problem is that as soon as you equip a weapon, you can never sell it
In GW1, as long as you never customized or dedicated a weapon, you could sell it whenever you want no matter how much you used it. In Gw2, there's no going back once you equip something. For a long time, you couldn't even share it across your account. This leads to fucking ridiculous prices for most weapons.

holy shit this I cant believe they announced an expansion for $50 while dangling "raids" in front of the playerbase.

>Floaty movement
>Forced into semi cutscenes for quests
>One long main quests that lasts through your whole levelling period
I hate it.

oh I forgot
>Gear doesn't matter
>No trinity or role based system like that
Jumping puzzles were fun though. Just a shame you had to do them with GW2 movement.

at least they weren't as bad as the swtor jumping puzzles for datacrons

So what you are saying is if I have the MMO itch play ESO.

I think I have everything but the Morrowind Expac. I might start it up tonight.

The only thing I really like is the pvp isn't based on your gear stats, I don't really touch pve and the final boss was probably the worst I've ever "fought"

>5 skills per weapon type
>Level 1 sword has the same skill set as a level 80 sword
>All classes are multi-role and have similar play style

Why don't any other MMOs do runescape-style quests? Actual stories with unique objectives? Puzzles? Lore?

>Amazing during the first month
Every zone had people walking around. Every quest had groups waiting for you to join 24/7.

It was a great theme park.

Other than FFXIV and ESO you mean?

because running across the map 10 different times just to talk to people and get bullshit items isn't fun from a game play perspective.

FFXIV lore is painful to sit through

I am upset that they have yet to add human on charr romance but instead focus on lesbian trees and trannies

a certain group of people are very mad that the game is still one of the top MMOs despite their attempts to tortanic it. even the /vg/ was killed by paid spambots. most of the shitposts in this thread are straight up lies

are you retarded? I've NEVER seen a uniquely scripted quest in FFXIV like WoW or Runescape's quests where you do some gameplay like driving a vehicle or solving a puzzle (minus one little bit in ARR where you use the magitech armor). they're ALL just fucking fetch quests and "go talk to these 8 people in a row"

FFXIV is just 'inspect item, get ambushed' the game.

>most of the shitposts in this thread are straight up lies
user, I play GW 2 and it sickens me that we gotten to a point where the human gods are evil because they bully a crippled mary sue child, and forget it your human character doesn't respond properly. Oh and there the part where they fucking cancel the new legendary set when it was advertised as part of the expansion. The liars are neo anet

Every single LS3 episode is adding a new map with new currency to grind
Most new skins are in cash shop
Plot is a fanfiction written by some 12yo
PvP and WvW is still shit
SJW devs

Still waiting for Guild Wars Utopia

>"You encounter an unexpected enemy!"
no its expected at this point

Gliding is fun I guess. If only you could have airborne skills everywhere and not just in Bloodstone Fen.

>wvw, pvp, fractals, raids, dungeons
>it does not have a gear treadmill, the best tier in 2012 is the best tier today
>subjective
>skyrim invented dragons I did not know that. the dragon theme was established since 2007, skyrim came out in 2011
>true, it really is pathetic
>agree
>it matters but way to little
>nothing wrong with that. see niggers vs chinks vs whites in real life
>RP is for fags, glad they did not cave in
>nowadays yes
>megaservers saved the game, fuck off, they work, they do their jobs and thus i can easily find players at all times in all maps
>i never liked those plant faggots myself however they have good parts as well
>thank God, kys if you want that piece of crap
>yes because Anet makes the decision for NCSoft. CoH was a piece of crap shitfest with 10 autists playing, no one cared
>unfortunately
>don't remind me how tainted they are by this disease. makes me puke
>they gave them free reign, so that's that
>weak bait
>thank God, kys if you want such a piece of crap in a game
>guild wars comes from its lore back in 2004 and has nothing to do with the pvp mode of guild fighting, dont be a faggot
Conclusion: You're a faggot that can find salvation.

>tfw no Chronomancer class ever

Imagine if they chose just to keep expanding on GW1. The sheer amount of content would have been incredible.

>Chronomancer
this, who doesn't like time fuckery and weaponised paradoxes?

Summoner sounds kinda standard, but I am sure they would've been creative with those guys as well.

I wonder what the Summoner can do that isn't a MM or an SoS

>>There is no right or wrong, no black or white. Every character and group have their own reasons for their actions.
This, except the White Mantle did nothing wrong, and would have kicked the Charr out of Ascalon and ushered in a golden age

>Why is this game never talked about?
Every time I see a GW2 thread, I get depressed of the current game compared to the first guild wars. That game was great.

There is a chronomancer in GW2
wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Chronomancer
I was happy to learn a mmo finally utilized one of the most interesting rpg classes, but GW2 version is shit.

>There is no structure, combo fields are fucking stupid, and dodge invulnerability relegates the game to twitch based dogshit.
git gud nigga. But yea every major part of the game sucked except the combat system

I want to talk to you about hate.
I hate that they give you 5 slots in a game with 8 classes.
I hate that harvesting tools have degredation.
I hate the gold to gem conversion.
I hate the ridiculous race and class imbalance.
I hate that they fucked over dungeons by removing zerging in a game with no trinity system.
I hate that they instigated diminishing returns on dungeon marks effectively creating a lockout.
I hate Fractions of the Mist and how it was the nail in the dungeon coffin.
I hate that they turned the game into just another gear treadmill while claiming that they were not.
I hate the low drop rate of crafting materials.
I hate that it has been years and the great jungle worms are still a waste of a time slot.
I hate that they haven't made any new world bosses or replaced any with special event bosses like the Twisted Marionette or Giant Branded Scorpion from the beta.
I hate that you have to pay to change something as simple as your characters hair.
I hate that they removed the high res screenshot option like pic related which I had to half just to upload.
I hate that each of your characters share the same bank.
I hate that fast travel becomes more costly at higher levels but money from quests is still incredibly low.
I hate that names are game wide and not server wide.
I hate the Arena Shooter type blind box bullshit.

I hate how long it took them to make an expansion.
I hate how the expansion isn't very big.
I hate how the expansion doesn't raise the level cap.
I hate how the new class is just a fucking Death Knight.
I hate how the expansion isn't a return to Cantha or Elona.
I hate that there are still no new playable races.
I hated that they basically scrapped all the original main characters for 2 poorly written lesbians.
I hated that in both instances men were a minority and were all dumb outside of Snaff who fucking dies before the game.
I hate that they made the ruler of Kryta a single woman (Just to really fucking drive it home) who mind fucks Logan into coming after her when she was in danger but just ends up saving her fucking self with magic.
I hate that Zojja is voiced by Felicia Day.
I still hate Kormir and how she is worshiped like any other god.
I hate how 4/6 gods are women, the 2 males are gods of death and war and the former 6th was evil and male.
I hate that they censored several female armors.
I hate that they also removed a female human idle animation because they thought it was too suggestive.
I hate that they changed the female human jog cycle so it is also not feminine and looks out of place compared to other.
I hate that they went so far as to remove female barbie doll like pelvises when in dresses.

Every time I consider it I end up just wanting to go back and play GW1 instead.

that was back when people still had hopes for the dev team before a several year content drought+shitty expansion forced them realize how bad they really were

Guild Wars 2 was a fun romp when the game was still new to me. I explored the world 100%. The thing I absolutely detested was the zones were instanced and the world map looked like a quilt

...

I find it ironic that GW 2, despite setting many years into the future, keep on fucking up lore for GW 1 and brought a shit expansion while sticking the middle finger at their own playerbase. Compare to ESO, it straight out screw up the lore, but the company ends up fixing most of the problem the player base has and brought a half decent expansion. It kind of sad that people are recommending GW 2 more than ESO, ignoring the principle of what make people like an mmo or not.

I stopped playing when they announced the expansion.
I was interested in none of the additions.

- No work on the home instance
- Made the main city-hub fucking ugly
- Almost no sexy clothes. They also fucked up the outfit system. All leather armors are trenchcoats.
- No holy trinity but endgame content focused around spam-builds.

I liked the main game and I defenetly got my money's worth but there is nothing comfy about it any more.

>>I hate that they made the ruler of Kryta a single woman (Just to really fucking drive it home) who mind fucks Logan into coming after her when she was in danger but just ends up saving her fucking self with magic.
>Do living story quest
>Forced to sit through queen's boring and shitty dialogue
>All of a sudden, the queen can do god-like shit like summon super barriers to protect them from sieges
>She can kill people just by pointing at them
>She installs martial laws to root out traitors among her
>She uses her mental powers to turn Logan into her slave
>Has the power to subdue entire crowds with a wave of her hand
>But apparently she's had no prior adventuring experience and hasn't been in many fights before
>She's also the one responsible for the Charr peace treaty and letting them get away with their crimes against humanity
>Was responsible for Snaff's death, even though she can clearly defend herself and didn't need Logan to help

I'd sign up with the White Mantle, to be honest. The queen is a basically a super powered tyrant and the more I read about her, the more I realise that she seems to be the author's new Scarlet Briar.

God, scarlet was such shit. It amazes me that it existed. Why did it exist? Why did everyone at Arenanet leave, to leave the most incompetent person on the old team in charge of everything? Why did they hire so many agenda-pushing retards? I'm a goddamn faggot and I do not think it's brave at all to be a tranny using mesmer magic, you shit, fuck off.
Guild Wars still has players. Not very many, but enough. Just enough.

My girlfriend plays this game and as far as I know she has many friends that are also girls that play it.

The way she plays it though she plays it purely for the cosmetics.

It's become some kind of barbie-doll dress up simulator to her where she can farm for literally 8 hours for a 'pretty dress'.

Honestly if you want to meet women, I bet that this particular MMORPG has more women playing it than men.

The game's far from dead desu. Again so many faggots who maybe tried the game once and now suddenly know everything about the game's current state.

yeah, now it's literal pay2win

There is no winning though.

It's literally pay to look pretty... There is no 'winning' at all in this game.

I mean I played for a bit during release and again a few months ago..

You gain all your skills by level 10 basically (10/80) so your character basically stops developing at that point.

The dungeons have no roles so it's a buttonmashing fest.

When you get to 0 Hp your character just falls over and needs to be 'helped up' (like left 4 dead)...

The dungeon bosses are so unbalanced because of a lack of holy trinity that the main strategy the players have come up with is stack ontop of each other SPAMMING the 'revive friend' button... which seems to somehow make them immune to death from the boss... Apart from that there are no 'interesting' items in terms of stats.. infact there's probably only a few dozen items in the game.. The only thing that differs is the skins on those items.

I think it's an amazing game from a certain perspective. If you just want to dress up, look pretty and try on new outfits (eg. you're a girl).. this game is 10/10. You can do that for hours.. You grind... and then you get rewarded with a new outfit that you can screenshot yourself in in pretty backgrounds and post on instagram... then you can go back and grind for the next costume. But for actual gameplay and character development or infact anything in the sense of a regular MMO it's fucked.

Absolute shit game. Anyone even remotely even considering putting this on their computer is a lobotomized arenadrone cuck. Those who have it should negate themselves immediately.

why do Devs go "hmm the first game is doing well should we just do that again with more shit and updated graphics? NAH LETS JUST MAKE A WHOLE NEW GAME WITH LESS FEATURES THEN THE FIRST"
Fucking Planetside did this also

>elite specs are objectively better than other specs
>you have to pay for elite specs

t. 2016+ redditers

I just had another thought to add to this. If the Queen is also an extremely powerful mesmer, who's to say that she isn't deliberately manipulating her own population into compliance? She has the power to manipulate the thoughts and actions of entire crowds, so it isn't beyond her capabilities to do this. The whole thing with the chamber of ministers is bothering too... She has the power to suspend all other authorities in her government if she thinks it's necessary, and the population will still love her in spite of the complete centralization of power.

This is actually really fucked up.

its an expansion how is a dozen new tiers of gear in any other mmo not pay to win then?

See there All the GW 1 anet left when ncsoft told them to obey them

it's less like new tiers of gear and more like new classes that are head and shoulders better than the other classes.

Guild Wars 2 is a pretty solid game but once you get to end game there really isn't much to do after that. Compared to FFXIV where an update could last you like 1 or 2 months, GW2 would last you like 1 or 2 weeks. The cadence is slow and the content update shallow but I still recommend GW2 over any other F2P mmos out there.

No, unlike GW 2, many f2p mmo are completed and the player can play in all content. I wouldn't recommend GW 2 at all

>have a great combat system with ridiculous amount of player freedom that encourages experimentation
>also at all times reliant on group play to make synergy between characters even more important
>scrap all of that in the sequel; you are a generic, overpowered lone wolf with only a fraction of the build variety of the first game
>yet people still wonder why gw2 was nothing but a flash in the pan

The only way to really keep on playing is to get into full WvW/GvG autism. And even then, since the expansion, it's not that fun anymore.

Casual ...
It became better storywise raid and dungeon wise.
The amount of contet would blow you up.