WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH COME ON NOW WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH COME ON NOW WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH THE WAR BEGAN, EARTH TREMBLED IN FEAR! BOLD, BRAVE, AND COLD-HEARTED THE DISTANCE GROWS CLOSER, LITTLE BY LITTLE WOW! THE POWER YOU POSSESS IS INCREDIBLE! HE DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE
It undersells because Sega priced it too low (and people diss it because of it) and we never get a sequel.
Jordan Perez
This is likely. Sega won't advertise it properly and when it fails
HA, WE TOLD YOU YOU DIDN'T WANT 2D SONIC!
*greenlights a forces sequel*
Liam Anderson
GO THROUGH THE LOOP YOU DUMB FUC
Mason Peterson
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Jayden Moore
>no advertise >japan trains >internet hype
That's enough. The only problem is Mania coming in the same year as Forces, but at least is not in the same time as Odissey and x-mas season
Christopher Turner
Internet hype isn't enough, this doesn't have a physical remember, that alone will make Forces destroy it in sales. How on earth this isn't on the front page of preorder sales on gaming sites and the such, and online console stores, hopefully they pop up on release
Daniel Gonzalez
boost games have been selling lower and lower consistently and mania has sold out on pre-orders multiple times on various things. mania has it in the bag
Andrew Martin
I NEED LEAKS, WHERE ARE THEM
Joseph Ortiz
I already gave up hype after seeing and learning about the hard boiled heavies, yet again, something betrays eggman and is the real threat. I had faith in Taxman but it seems Sega forced him to ruin this game.
Eli Cook
Wait, what?
Adrian Sanchez
>yet again, something betrays eggman and is the real threat What the fuck are you talking about? The heavies are clearly just Eggman's henchmen. Where did you get this from?
Levi Phillips
So I just realized that the only 2 zones with confirmed Hard-Boiled Heavies are Studiopolis Zone and Mirage Saloon Zone. Will they be exclusive to the new zones (and would that mean that there's 7 of them)
Nah, they're Eggman's Koopalings.
Ian Bailey
>Will they be exclusive to the new zones (and would that mean that there's 7 of them) >7 of them There only appear to be 5 heavies in the silhouette, but yeah, all signs point towards the heavies being new-zone-exclusive.
My guess is that there's 5 heavy zones, 7 or 8 revamp zones, and then 1 brand new final zone against Eggman himself (plus any half/single-act-zones they might choose to pull - see Sky Chase, Doomsday, etc). Seems like a pretty reasonable guess from what I can see.
Asher Ortiz
There was some moonspeak text translated into english and it revealed the plot point that the heavies turn on eggman, and become something that he can't control. I don't know where that fucking link is though. it's there somewhere.
Isaac Fisher
sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Hard_Boiled_Heavies >They work in private, but appear in front of Sonic many times over the course of his adventure. However, this evil group eventually evolves into something even Eggman could not predict. Nowhere says they betray Eggman.
Jonathan Martin
>However, this evil group eventually evolves into something even Eggman could not predict. >Nowhere says they betray Eggman.
That clearly means betrayal user. just like chaos, shadow,rogue, omega, dark gaia, the deadly six and metal sonic. God forbit for once, for fucking once eggman is the threat like he's suppose to be.
Brandon Walker
Nope, not that one. Wish I saved it now, damn it. Was a completely diff official wiki site I think..?
were the fuck is that user that showed us it all in the last thread
There are five Hard Boiled Heavies. >Heavy Gunner (Studiopolis) >Super hero themed robo (Mirage Saloon) >Ninja robo >Mace/medieval robo >Top hat magician robo And yes, they appear exclusive to new zones. This means five new zones.
Brayden Thompson
>Eggman >threat
James Allen
>OCs are okay as long as they're robots Maniafags are always hypocrites.
Eli Young
>What could possibly go wrong? *blocks ur path to GOTY*
Lincoln Butler
>Using Sonic Wikia >Ever First of all, that's some gay nigga shit
Secondly, "evolving into something Eggman could not predict" doesn't mean betrayal. Since when did evolution equal disloyalty? That's a big stretch. I mean hell, Eggrobo "evolved into something Eggman [didn't] predict" in S3K when he survived Sky Sanctuary's destruction and went solo in Knuckles's campaign, but that doesn't mean he was in any way opposed to Eggman.
Xavier Baker
It could imply they simply become more dangerous than Eggman originally programmed them to be. Like Mecha Sonic going super in S3&K; I don't think he planned that at all
Jonathan Hill
Don't forget the final zone will probably be new. So maybe 6 new zones?
Thomas Ross
Yeah true.
Boss: R9 Final Fever
Christian Ward
>Still gets OHKOed by Mecha Sonic
Jaxon Scott
If there are 6 new zones, then 15 total will fit the 40:60 ratio of new to remixed zones perfectly.. Hmm
Alexander Cook
is this assuming every game double dips?
Jayden Collins
Don't jinx it
Matthew Walker
Yup
Easton Johnson
Green Hill double dip zone
Chemical Plant double dip zone
Flying Battery double dip zone
Sonic 3 zone [not revealed yet] double dip zone
Stardust Speedway double dip zone
Mirage Saloon Studiopolis new zone new zone leaked cathedral zone new final zone
Maybe sonic CD won't double dip. Seeing as it wasn't included on the elavator
Juan Richardson
CD probably only have Stardust Speedway because the need to incorporate all timezones.
Kayden White
>However, this evil group eventually evolves into something even Eggman could not predict. D E N I A L
Cameron Bell
>double dip fags idiots, they're gonna use game gear levels
Joseph Ramirez
post yfw they had extra dev time from the delay and end up adding a Chaotix level
Juan Price
>themed bosses are a problem Yeah fuck sonic 2 and 3 for giving Eggman different machines to fight with.
Elijah Lewis
>mfw the chaotix level is the special stages of Mania
Eli Howard
Would rather a redone Egg Rocket Zone or Game Gear stages.
Brandon Wood
>Implying Iizuka will let them acknowledge Chaotix or the Game Gear so directly The blue ring monitors are one thing, but they sure as fuck won't be putting Botanic Base or Sunset Park in Mania. It's way too good of an idea for Iizuka to allow it. Hell, as far as Iizuka is concerned, Chaotix is completely non-canon anyway and it wouldn't surprise me if he outright doesn't even know the Game Gear games ever existed. He's surprisingly in-the-dark about many things that most fans would consider to be common knowledge.
Christian Young
Pretty reasonable and likely
Christian Ward
But this is the Mania dimension (going by the Forces connection theory, anyway), so it could be canon in that dimension.
Luis Bell
I really wouldn't read too much into that dimension shit considering Forces isn't even out yet. My point was less about the canon status of Chaotix and more about the fact that Iizuka doesn't really seem to respect Chaotix or the handheld games all that much. To use roster-autist terms, if the Mania team suggested something like Marina Madness over something more traditional like Lava Reef, I imagine Iizuka would brush the idea off as being a "waste of a slot".
Lucas Lee
>I really wouldn't read too much into that dimension shit considering Forces isn't even out yet I mean, Eggman flat out says it
Angel Taylor
>Taxman makes a sample level of a Mania Chaotix level, but calls it an original level >Iizuka just goes "ah very nice gorgeous level, keep going" without recognizing it >Mania teams face when they slip in a Chaotix level because it's that obscure
Alexander Sullivan
Perhaps they'll add a level from the Master System like Bridge or Jungle. Those two are pretty unique in the franchise mechanics-wise given that one have an automatic scrolling and the other have a mainly vertical level.
Leo Bell
Are you fucking stupid lol
Andrew Russell
>I mean, Eggman flat out says it But we don't know the plot of the game overall. It could well be that classic Sonic is referred to as being from another dimension because of some kind of time-split that has occurred (after all, they've not gone into detail about how Eggman took over in the first place) and Classic is from the original timeline. It really is up in the air at the moment. But again, the canon status of Chaotix was never really the main point in the first place.
Julian Murphy
Why does Iizuka hate the super emeralds?
Isaiah Ross
>However, this evil group eventually evolves into something even Eggman could not predict.
the Hard Boiled Heavies cause Sonic to end up in Forces at the end of the game, calling it now.
Mania sequel involves Sonic coming back from the Forces hellhole and getting rid of the HBHs
Lucas Cruz
Because he wanted to avoid a DBZ-esque situation of power creep
Samuel Howard
>iizuka in the back when he realizes what they've done
Gavin Morris
Because they were never meant to canonically exist in the first place and were merely a band-aid to the "splitting Sonic 3 in two" problem
Easton Young
actually the opposite according to his revised "canon" only male hedgehogs can into super
they're basically midget furry saiyans
Luis Ross
There are clearly 6 robots there
Brandon Cox
It's five.
Austin Hill
The part just to the left of the gunner is the cape of the middle guy, not it's own heavy.
Josiah Walker
can someone post the video source to that webum?
Jacob Nguyen
No shit? Welp.
Lincoln Hill
I'd always heard that as WORK THAT FLABBY BITCH COME ON NOW WORK THAT FLABBY BITCH
Carson Bennett
>people honestly care about the story in a 2d sonic game
>HUURR DUUURR LE AUTISTS HAHAHAHAHAHA AREN'T I LE FANNY GUIZE??? XXDDD
Cameron Howard
Seething
Thomas Perez
>journalist has to actually ask the guy running the booth how to spindash
Ryder Murphy
that webm pisses me off please delete
Owen Wood
I need some romhack recommendations. I've been playing Sonic 1 Megamix and it's a decent time.
Jayden Parker
So Marble Garden has a chance if they double dip, right?
Angel Martinez
Play Sonic VR if you want pure good level design.
Justin Sanders
Most things point towards Hydrocity and Azure Lake. But I'd rather have Chrome Gadget or Endless Mine.
Oliver Collins
Considering their original plans for Sonic 3 Remastered to include Sonic 3 2P zones, I'm hoping that the potential Sonic 3 choice would be Hydrocity with a double-dip of Chrome Gadget.
Unlikely, but it'd be sweet as shit.
Jaxson Ortiz
>Most things point towards Hydrocity and Azure Lake What exactly points to Azure Lake? I'd love to see it but that sounds like some real wishful thinking without much in the way of meaningful proof to back it up
Colton Morgan
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Canon ending of Mania, you defeat the boss, but woaowahwah twist, as sonic runs off, robot is still alive, goes off screen, somehow time is involved, it sends them into the future, everything is all fucked up.
Now look at what those hard boiled heavies have turned into. also would explain classic being able to drop dash in Forces.
Ohhhh noooooooooooooooooo
OHHHH NO...............
Iizuka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luke Hughes
Isn't one of the things with Forces that Tails never met Sonic because time travel bullshit, and it undoes all of Classic Sonic's victories? I have a hard time believing Mania will connect to Forces if that's the case.
Samuel Gray
They said they wanted to make a full level out of it, that's why you see Azura Lake pop up more often than the other 2P stages.
Carter Sanchez
I'd say Labyrinth but that's just me
Benjamin Morris
I know that Taxman and friends wanted to make full versions of ALL the 2P zones when they pitched Sonic 3 Remastered, but I've never heard anything specifically reference Azure Lake over the other ones. In fact the only mockup we've seen of any of them was a full-sized Balloon Park
Jackson Torres
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Jaxson Myers
Where's Sonic 4?
Christopher Parker
Probably didn't happen in the Mania dimension.
In the regular dimension, some time before Adventure.
Elijah Phillips
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Camden Murphy
People keep joking about this but I'm not totally convinced Iizuka isn't stupid enough to try something like that. The backlash shitstorm would be biblical.
Christian Gonzalez
I pre-ordered on PSN but didn't get the avatars it said came with it. Did something fuck up, or do I not get them until release day?
Hunter Bennett
Happend with me aswell, you'll get them on release date, don't worry.
Leo Fisher
>you'll get them on release date, don't worry. You sure about that? I preordered on psn and got the themes and avatars immediately.
Something like this will happen, expect a merge of Mania and Forces. The game will be amazing, but that'll be how it fucks itself over. lizuka strikes again.
Anthony Gonzalez
It happens sometimes. Got my Crash themes and stuff insta but not Mania. Believe you can call psn support about it.
I'm getting a -little- salty Mania isn't being advertised on the psn store and it's under a month away. What the fuck are Sony/Sega doing? Maybe we need to wait a bit longer for it to be up front and centre?
same goes with switch/xbox one, I want this shit plastered everywhere. If we ain't getting a physical, this thing needs to be advertised
Asher Bailey
Sega didn't push ads for the first sonic game until weeks before the game came out. The Taxman is a super autist who also knows about that fact and could probably get sega to pull that again
Daniel Cruz
bump
Juan Ortiz
>playing CD's time trials >mfw collision FUCKING chaos this many springs and bumpers should be fucking ILLEGAL
Tyler Sanchez
Collision Chaos Act.3 is the best to speedrun at least.
Landon Morris
IIZUKAAAAAA
Jaxon Bennett
10/10 level design
Samuel Adams
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Thomas Scott
Really generates the mind-sweepers.
Logan Morris
Once revealed, will any of these be waifuable?
Christopher Martin
If one of them isn't atleast designed as a female of some kind, yes I realise its a robot shut the fuck up, I want a cute robot waifu, i'll be disappointed