I'm replaying BoF4 and now I remember why I liked Breath of Fire 3 the best.
The constant minigames that are often annoying completely destroy the pacing and enjoyment.
>constantly having to chase characters
>buttonmash
>hide and seek
Any games you replayed recently that you remember being better than they actually were?
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>get to the part where I have to ride a nautilus through a field
>get lost
>drop the game
it wasn't a bad game, and it does look beautiful, but compared to BoF3, it felt like something was missing. It just lacked the emotions & "epic" feelings of a boy, losing his friends and going on a grand adventure to find out his identity. The emotion i got reuniting with Rei, and later on, Teepo was nearly tear-jerkingly strong, nothing compared it in 4. not even what happened to Nina's sister.
The minigames mostly stop after the first chapter.
I prefer BoF4 over 3 but maybe that's because I played 4 first.
joke's on you, 2 is the best
Out of the SNES titles, yes. Overall, it's a middling entry at best.
GREAT TIER
3>4
GOOD TIER
2>1
NOT BOF TIER
5>6
how should i go on to play it? heard the SNES had a translation patch. should I go with the GBA version?
>love bof3 as a kid
>play it again
>these encounter rates
jesus christ i must have been the most patient child
>bof3
>tfw have to fight in the arena
>really underlevel
>get my ass kicked
>painful to grind levels because I am stuck in the area and can't leave
I always preferred 3 over 4.
>want to play BoF3 again
>re-release never because some fucktarded nip thinks they own a color scheme
Also these captchas are getting fucking stupidly out of hand.
You just go up in the mountains and fight the tar-men dudes, they give a bunch of exp and if I recall you only need ice. I remember grinding like fucking crazy trying to beat Garr there, until I just gave up on my dream one day.
>play bof3
>try to overcome autism to leave characters at grossly low levels under Masters I want become available
>Ryu is still level 1 by the time Dias is unlocked
This applies to most JRPGs for me now, I couldn't finish BoF4 last year either.
Maybe I'll have more luck playing them on PSP or something, but "actively" playing them on a big screen feels like work
I liked Dragon Quarter
I finished it the other day, and i can understand why people dont like it, because it's so different, but i still think it was a solid title
I guess people would be butthurt about not being able to transform into a dragon and stuff. I liked the system though, since it really felt like a desperation move (I pretty much used it twice throughout the game to beat some hard bosses, and then pretty much one shot every boss with the dragon form once i reached the final dungeon).
Golden axe series specially 3 I loved the blue tiger in childhood but controls and everything sucked shit and really was unfun but I also played streets of rage 2 and shinobi 3 they were just how I remembered and all of them are sega genesis
BoF4 has Fou-Lu going nuclear, which blows the fuck out anything that happened in 3.
Duality of Ryu and Fou-Lu was great as well as game suddenly going into extreme, unexpected violence.
Yuna is the best antagonist in series too.
>BoF3 thread
>no autism with 3v4
you're all my niggas. there's was something endearing on 3 compared to 4 in its visuals. completely arguable that 4 has better graphics, but it didn't click on me, maybe the 3D dragons.
I couldn't understand how magic worked, lots of spells skills felt underwhelming as the game progressed.
I enjoy 4 more than 3.
But I prefer 2, all told.
>Tfw want to do a completionist run of BoF4.
What's the best way of doing this? What should my goals be?
>re-release never because some fucktarded nip thinks they own a color scheme
can you elaborate please?
5 was so stupid
i somehow managed to make it to the end but it wasn't fun
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BoF4 always felt much stronger to me simply due to the mix of brutality and seriety in its plot. BoF3 still had that underlining tie to comedy for the most part, where BoF4 left it largely out with the exception of Ershin moments, which even then turned out largely grim.
And whoever says there is no emotionally impactful moments like in BoF3, has clearly not gone through the sections of the game where you literally trash out Ershin and have to go through it taking a beating on its own to defend the city of midgets while helplessly lacking any means to do so as it no longer has the power of a goddess inside of it, and it knows, but still tries until they destroy it.
Bitch fuck Teepo's last second cameo, I saw that coming from the moment I saw spamming Simoon on everyone that lived as a 5 year old.
Watching that oven pot try to fight its way through an army out of simply wanting to help, and failing horribly, almost wrecked me when I thought it would not actually join the party again.
Just use cheat engine or gameshark and set encounters to zero.
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>play BoF3
>reach the point of the onion joining the party member
>moral choice regarding killing its mother for it is a danger to its surroundings and it doesn't want to be
>decide I want it to live, it can just go to the forests or something
>pull the lever I think will save the monster
>it falls into the lava
>oh shit sorry
>reload
>do the whole section again
>pull the other lever
>falls into the lava anyways
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I like 3 best because in 4 the dragons stopped looking anything remotely like dragons. I'm here for the dragons, not random magical beasts.
teepo pleasuring himself with the poor ghost!
3's soundtrack is so fucking good.
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does anybody else remember renting games at the video store as a kid?
i rented breath of fire 2 once and the story at the start stayed with me for years while i forgot the name
it wasn't until downloading a snes emulator and roms that i found it again probably 15 years later and could play it for more than the week
I think that's one of the selling points of Bof4. It managed to do so much more with the concept of dragons while still keeping its source concept intact, it made every dragon actually fun to discover.
3 just had... lizards, I can just play about any other RPG ever existing if I want lizards.
It has so much character. It's one of my favorite soundtracks to this day.
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>that japanese nazi summoner being an absolute asshat
>all the shit Fou-Lu went through before mentally breaking because of Mami
>pussies from western government being scared of Carronade so much they sacrifice their own allies to please the empire
>Ershin's mad laughter from absurdity of its own existence as it gets beaten around
>Yuna never getting his punishment
The game was a nearly Taro-tier emotional ride.
yeah, i used to go to a local video store with my dad every weekend to rent a game as a kid. this was back during the ps1-ps2 era so there was so much selection
we were really good friends with the owners and the guy would give us discounts and stuff all the time. the store closed a few years ago because video stores are dead and i felt pretty sad about it, actually.
Strange how the majority of JRPG's back then had awesome soundtracks.
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I remember renting Secret of Mana for the first time, that was the day when it became my favourite game of all time. We moved house not too long after, and my dad said "just keep it, we won't be going back".
Still have that copy along with my SNES, and although I'm 31 now, my younger brother and I still play it every Christmas when he comes down to my place to stay.
If you survived the BoF3 desert, that should be easy.
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I enjoyed the BOF3 desert part, I used to grind there because it was so damn comfy. I'm also pretty sure that after a certain amount of time you get rescued don't you?
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why the fuck would you not emulate
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BoF IV is probably the best RPG on PSOne. 3 is mediocre.
I'm with you OP. I'm play BoFIV for the first time right now and the mini-games are fucking cancer. Like I don't a few here and there but it's just mini-game after mini-game
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I think all of them are in the first few hours of the game
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I replay 4 every year, while i played BoF3 maybe 2-3 times. Different tastes i suppose 1 and 2 are fun to replay too
Replay BoF3 and go make Sashimi again. I fucking hated replaying that part. Both are great, though.
>bof 4 dragon system
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yuna get killed in the manga
thanks for reminding me to play best BoF again
this
imo even FFVI cant compete
Don't tease me with your bullshit user. I know the manga ends with Ryu and Fou-lu traveling the earth as mortals.
BOF IV is one of my favorite rpgs despite the flaws.
I liked 3 too but never finished it, I don't have patience anymore for random encounters and grinding
yea, i lied. I just try to trick people into reading it
>Dragon forms upgrade when you have high enough minigame score
>Some of the minigames you can play only once.
Please respond.
Aren't you supposed to go forward until you get to a bick rock, then follow the bird?
Something like that, then you have to walk through again to get to the volcano.
I probably went through that game like 7 times.
You talk about how you hate minigames when BoF3 has all of Rhalpala, the Desert of Death (walk straight between two stars lol) and the Mayor's Dish.
BoF4 has no such hurdles, better graphics and music, more engaging and fleshed out characters (despite being incomplete) and a better world. People like BoF3 because they grew up playing it and like the child/adult idea because it was in OoT. Here's the truth, Majora's Mask is the better Zelda game and 4 is the better BoF game.
Babbies can't read compasses. The game literally tells you the way.
But which has the better bara cat?
I like both, honestly
3 because it's a journey, you start as a timid boy and becomes a man
4 because it's the perfect blend between japanese and chinese folklore
As a non-English speaker, that part stumped me as a kid until I actually learned english
Up to that point I just spammed through the dialogue.
Can you really call Rei bara when he's not in Were-tiger form?
If we go by utility, then Cray with Flail > Rei with anything.
If we go by best boy it is clearly Rei.
That sucks. Why were you playing a story-driven game in a language you can't understand? I mean, I guess the game looks amazing and the combo system is fun but some shit (like the pabupabu part) would be hell.
>fishing
Being poor fag family, my stepdad modded my PS1 to work pirated and burned games. BoF4 happened to be one of those games he picked at random from theearly iteration of the internet.
Dang user. That's a cool fucking dad.
That takes me back...
>My dad modded our PS1 to do the same thing
>BoF4 was one of the only games that didn't work properly
>Eventually played through it years later
>jRPG, genre where all the games are so goddamn similar, with universally forgettable plots and generic as fuck characters, divide the genre fans with completely different opinions on what is considered good
wew lad
that being said, if a game has random encounters its shit by default. I dont give two fucks how "gorgeous the atmosphere and OST" are.
Sorry I can't relate. Not to 3's lacking character development, it's graphics or the story.
4 was better in every aspect: character design, artwork, first BoF with real effort put into writing the story, did I mention already that it has the best soundtrack among the most jRPG's out there?
I just can't agree on a single bullet point why 3 is better than 4, none whatsoever.
But all the classic WRPGs had random encounters too. Even tabletop RPGs have random encounters.
>best soundtrack
You absolutely right there my nigga.
I still have a hard time deciding which I like more between Raging Emperor's Banquet and Warring God.
I hope you packed trail mix. When you go fishing with bait this weak, you end up starving, user.
I've always felt like BoF4 is objectively the better game but it just doesn't have the same sense of 'adventure' like BoF3 did.
I feel the same way about Grandia 1 and 2.
Patrician choice is Grandia 3. Does everything better, except story. But story in G1 and 2 was so fucking weak and subpar anyway that it doesnt really matter.
>You will never Momo
I only played BoF4 once when I was younger, and I remember feeling totally disappointed in it after having played BoF3. Like I got to the end, and thought that was going to be the halfway point of the game and the adventure was just about to start, and then the credits rolled. I figured "Well I probably fucked something up and got some sort of early bad end," but when I looked later it turns out I reached the proper ending and did the right answers and beat the last boss.
I don't know what I was expecting, but that feeling of disappointment just sorta stayed with me regarding 4, and I can't seem to like it.
maybe you have shit taste. bof 4 is great except the dragon system
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I've certainly been accused of that before, I also dislike FF6, Chrono Trigger, Lufia, a lot of games people consider to be untouchable classics just don't fucking work for me.
I've only recently coming around to accepting that I'm probably in the wrong for thinking so poorly of BoF4, I used to just think everyone was retarded for liking it over 3.
Why is BoF3 Nina's sprites so radically different from her official artwork? It have always bothered me that I'll never get to see the official art of her thighs in pink pantyhose.
Nina is the best BoF
This thread convince me of trying out 3, should i play this on PSP or PS1 emulator?
Play the PS1 version on your PSP
PS1 emulator but play the first two games on a SNES emulator first. Use the retranslation for 2.
>FF6
>Chrono Trigger
neither of these grabbed me like bof 3/4, so I might have shit taste too
People who complain about the dragon system in IV are silly. The dragon system has never been the same from game to game (except for 1 and 2 because of hardware limitations).
Why would they suddenly copy and paste the system from 3 into 4 when 4 is more about the entire world and the characters (including the side cast which are much better flesh out compared to 3) moreso than just dragons? 3 is based around discovering the heritage of the dragons and their diversity. The gene system makes sense there.
I enjoy each game for being different based on its own merit. Even without the (actually pretty shallow) gene system, 4 is vastly superior. The only things both games suffer from are being too fucking easy.
because the system in 3 was neat
FFV and FFIX are better than VI. VI ties with IV as it is quite good.
Chrono Trigger never "gripped" me but it was fun as hell especially with the Tech system. BOF IV's combo system was like the tech system but on steroids.
Am I the only one who thinks BoF2 forcing Bow as your best friend was lame? I never even liked the guy
people talking about which final fantasy game is better than which other final fantasy game is a good way to make me close the tab desu