>down to 3k online players from 16k in a month >EVO Top 8 had less viewers than both Smash and SFV >EVO pool viewers couldn't top Hearthstone streams >Still no concrete sales figure in a month without much else new releasing
its literally the most popular fighting game right now so no
fighting games will never be ultra popular online as you get exposed really easily and have no one else to blame for your shortcomings
Joseph Sullivan
evo top 8 was amazing and had great numbers so stop falseflagging you idiot
of course its never gonna be very popular its a fighting game and those aren't popular. but its a great game and fun if you like fighting games
Gavin Murphy
No casual ever plays any fighting game for more than a month Tekken's doing just fine
Isaac Peterson
>had great numbers
Still less than Smash and SFV.
The numbers will only go down from here.
Angel Reed
I haven't touched Tekken at all. I'm too busy playing ARMS.
Jeremiah Jones
and you will continue being a falseflagging idiot..
Kayden Long
Are you saying Tekken had more viewers than Smash and SFV at EVO?
Answer that question first.
Ayden Wood
>stays silent after getting called out
Kevin Bell
It dropped off but the DLC and price drops will give it legs. It's laughable to suggest it won't end up as the most successful fighting game in the last 5 years; mark my words.
Nathaniel Brown
not him but tekken's always been like this to be honest, you can't say that it's dead if the dedicated playerbase has shrunk to 5k, if anything that's more than in TTT2
that being said, it's undeniable that SFV and both Smash 4 are far more popular in western countries (except europe maybe), in japan it's Guilty Gear and Blazblue that are outshining everything, even Smash Bros., their arcades favor these 2 games by a large margin
Isaac Flores
>PC
When will you people learn
Cooper Reyes
Oh look it's you again.
This guy is some weirdo who only plays SFV and tries gosh darndest to spread all kinds of disinfo about it in his efforts to bring even one more player back to SFV so he can play against someone.
Truth is, these are just the PC stats but even there, there's about 6k concurrent players daily.
Also the finals had more EVO viewers than SFV. The crowd was way more hype too :(
It's ok champ. Maybe one day you'll learn that fans of a genre can play all the games in that genre, even the very difficult ones. Then you, too, can consider yourself part of the community.
Charles Campbell
Wrong pic fucking hell.
John Jones
I still fucks with tekken 7.
Started maining Steve then move to M. Raven and Lili.
Enjoy more than I did with SFV and KoF (though I want to play more KoF)
Julian Anderson
yeah tekken is eu/korea favorite right
Leo Brown
I abandoned it because it was too hard. Almost every character uses some weird stance bullshit that just makes it more confusing than it has to be, so instead of a normal 100 move list you get 150 or 200 depending on the character. It's just too much to deal with.
Wyatt Barnes
Tekken was 2nd most viewed top 8 you stoner
Logan Diaz
>Implying I give a shit about a glorified platformer and a game that capcom is forcing everybody on their payroll to play whether they like it or not
Jeremiah Brown
Gamers have evolved pasted fighting game garbage lmfao
Dylan Sanchez
game had the appeal to sell but was too hard to keep a majority of the fanbase. It's just the way fighting games are. Too hard/complex/time consuming for casuals, so only the most dedicated players stick around.
It looks cool as shit which is probably why so many people bought it, but when they get juggled for 50% of their health they probably regretted their decision and never touched the game again. It tends to happen with fighting games.
Plus another reason it lost so many players is probably because it lacks content. All it has as a weak story mode, arcade mode, treasure battle, and online (player match, ranked battles, and tournaments).
The game seems to rely on it's mechanics for it's replay-ability and nothing else, which seems to be why so many people dropped it. It lacks content.
Jason Reyes
It's not fun to learn.
Bentley Miller
>fighting game that isn't Street Fighter or Smash has massive drop-off in players after first few weeks
Joseph Davis
There's too much to learn and nothing about the process is fun. Fuck Tekken.
Levi Wilson
>fighting games will never be ultra popular online as you get exposed really easily and have no one else to blame for your shortcomings Fucking this.
Aaron Carter
This. It's not fun to learn. It's even less fun to watch. It doesn't even have a real tutorial. Few people actually want to dig through youtube for HOW TO guides that aren't obnoxious.
Soul Calibur is fun to learn and fun to watch. Street fighter is fun to learn and fun to watch. Mortal Kombat/Injustice are at least fun to watch. BlazBlue/GG are hard as shit to learn but a blast to watch.
Tekken is just mostly boring as shit. Also the soundtrack is fucking abysmal. God damn is the music annoying.
Brayden Taylor
It's a troll, you anime nigger. It's got like 6x the player count of SFV. It's literally the most popular fighting game right now.
Daniel Clark
I agree. It makes on effort to even tell you many of the core features exist. It just expects you to look everything up on youtube, which while that information IS there, it's just more time spent NOT playing the game so what's the point.
Carson Sanders
it's only popular because SFV was a flop, smash isn't on PC, and other fighting games are too obscure in NA. Tekken is a bad game, but popular because the competition is worse/non-existent.
>no tutorial >want to learn the game >spend 2 hours watching shitty youtube guides >practice on infinite azure for 4 hours >go online hoping to play against somebody of your skill level >get btfo >go to bot game and try to play as you would against a human >get input read it's a shame the game didn't have a tutorial. I wasted so much timing trying to learn the game that I could have spent learning the other characters so I don't get destroyed by some cheesy shit I've never seen before. Not to mention the annoying ass music. The infinite azure song is stuck in my head forever now.
John Miller
I think the no tutorial logic was the game was already available in Japan for 3 years. Harada probably only had the Japanese market in mind and thought a tutorial would be completely unnecessary for the home version since anyone who was interested already played it and buyers were the ones who already knew the game inside and out.
Nathan Hall
>Harada probably only had the Japanese market in mind
Is he a moron?
Austin Fisher
He took away the option to color clothes and hair brown because of two very specific glitched outfits.
So, yes.
Gabriel Miller
>it's only popular because SFV was a flop It's literally the highest selling fighting game franchise in the world. Because you're not good enough to play it with the big boys does not mean that it's bad.
Also, it doesn't matter how good or bad SFV turned out to be. SFV is not Tekken. The same way thet SFV is not Guilty Gear. People who like fighting games play lots of them for the different rules and styles. It's not like console wars or something.
Nolan Long
Reminder SFV still hasn't met its 1 month sales projections from Feb-March 2016
Oliver Ward
>It's another "Sup Forums discusses fighting games" thread
And we just finished up the last one.
Landon Wood
>It's not fun to learn. It's even less fun to watch
Says a lot about fighting games if its the most fun to watch
Nathan Evans
I just got BlazBlue and am doing the tutorial. Hot damn this thing is indepth. It walks you through every conceivable aspect with demos and hints, plus it's funny to watch. I'm 3 hours in and only 40% done. It's honestly very helpful, but with the amount of work it took to make I'm not surprised T7 didn't want to do it if they had to resort to putting copypasta bears in the roster to fill the spaces.
Tyler Gomez
This is true and applies to all fighting games.
Fighting games are fucking hard to play against anyone close to your skill level because you can't blame anyone but yourself for losing, that's why you should play to LEARN and not to WIN.
Landon Edwards
It's been the most played game at my locals since it came out.
Josiah Kelly
hey I'm playing tekken 7 now but have been kinda interested in SC what makes it lower IQ?
Thomas Diaz
Players per day on which platform?
Liam Parker
these guys are really really really retarded
Grayson Watson
Melee and Tekken are easily on the same level. It's sad how fucking ignorant Sup Forums is about melee. It's sad. They also complain about Tekken being "too convoluted" or "too hard".
Grayson Sullivan
You don't need to know much for SC. Less moves, generally easier to play, don't actually have to know how to do anything to start playing it. It's a pretty simple game that anyone can pick up and play with only a basic knowledge of how fighting games work.
Also that list is kinda misleading. "lower IQ" does not mean "worse" or "less fun". It's just a measurement of how deep the fighting systems are and how difficult it is to play without experience or dedication.
Colton White
These threads bring out a lot of posters who don't actually play fighting games. You get a lot of unnecessary opinions being argued strongly by people who don't actually hold an opinion worth value.
Jacob Green
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Samuel Davis
Such as yourself and the guy you replied to ?
Jonathan Gomez
Oh, look at you trying to be witty.
Kevin Roberts
steam
Austin Jenkins
DBFZ will save fighting games.
Xavier Gutierrez
I've clocked about 100 hours learning Tekken and I'm still enjoying it.
Just got UNIB[st], on the other hand and am bored after just a few hours. There's just so much more to learn in Tekken that if you get bored with practicing combos, you can just move on to something else like finding frame traps or practicing movement, etc.
Just have to be in the right mindset- I had very little interest in learning T6 or TTT2 when I bought it because I was focused on the simpler fightan I had been playing. I wasn't prepared to have to learn as much as the games required.
Jeremiah Cooper
DOA deserves to be a lot higher. Like it or not to play optimally you have to have great reads and excellent reactions.
Asher Davis
>Wasnt this supposed to be Tekken's year? Conceptually speaking, Tekken's year would come after they all realized it wasn't crap. This happens when people realize how badly Smash and Street Fighter have stagnated at EVO
Carson Turner
PC version looks slick as hell.
Landon Wright
League of legends players will not like this post...
David Wilson
180 IQ here. Can confirm I only play Tekken, VF5, VF4, and GG. Any other game causes me headaches and nosebleeds.
Jace Brown
I'm playing it on PC till the PS4 gets it's lag input fixed, can't wait for the patch to prevent Dodgers on PC
Gavin Perez
>why are you not playing SFV right now threads >Abigail aint that bad threads >positive threads for SFV are always made almost every day. >Almost all other threads of fighting games are negative or saying that 'insert fighting game' is dying/dead.
Hmmmmm.
Leo Parker
All you really need to learn about fighting games are the base mechanics and how to use training mode.
Leo Edwards
I would agree if not for the design built around being friendly to mashing, giving the game a "nope" mechanic, having a blatant disregard for balance and the way it doesn't seem to understand the point of the 'low, mid, high' elements of the games it tries to copy.
Ryder Jones
How do you make it look so good? Is that a mod?
Ayden Hughes
As much as I hate to admit it, I do think the game is dying if not dead already.
It takes quite a while longer to find an opponent when compared with TTT2 a few months before the T7 release.
I guess fighting games are dying out. Sunrise, sunset.
Bentley Bell
>Everyone using the same 3-4 characters because muh power levels
It will be hype for a month and people will drop out
Eli King
Nobody cares about the PC version, user.
Joshua Parker
Atleast it's not guilty gear
Nathan Martin
The SF meta has always evolved more than the Tekken meta. That's what keeps it more interesting competitively.
Joseph Adams
Have you ever played the game before?
Brayden Wright
You mean the resolution or the colors? I use a mild reshade but that screenshot was also 4K, which I wouldn't exactly call playable (lucky to get 30 fps).
This is more what it looks like when I play normally.
Ethan Martin
fighting games are garbage. Plain and simple.
Blake Harris
yeah looks pretty crisp and the colors are good
Jordan Gray
Moves out of stances are counted in the movelist
Charles Ortiz
It's still going strong imo. I don't have too much trouble finding matches on any given day. However, the lack of post-release content is probably causing numbers to drop lower than the normal post launch slump. I mean, Winter 2017 for the next DLC character? Eliza's still not even available to everyone. The only thing for content in the near future is some new character panels.
Robert Peterson
>EVO Top 8 had less viewers than both Smash and SFV
user that's a lie, Tekken had more views than both Smash games.
Blake Foster
Tag 2 had literally one major update in it's lifetime. Hopefully it's not the same for T7.
Justin Moore
I think the player count depends on what time of day you play, especially on PS4.
I'm usually up till 4am and can't really find opponents at around that time.
Kevin Young
I doubt it will be, but it concerns me that it's taking them so long to roll out content. All this announced stuff being shown and talked about, but it's still so far off.
Ryder Walker
Any ass faggots player wont like it. Hell any team based game you can shift the blame on to somebody else to shield your ego.
Brandon Evans
>watch DreamHack Atalnta Tekken stream >it looks boring as shit
it is boring. Block launchers, dodge pokes, punish whiffs. Same cookie-cutter gameplay style with every character. People don't like it because it's hard, takes forever to learn, and it's boring as fuck.
Leo Sanders
I got it because of the hype but I don't feel excited to learn that artificial difficulty korean backdash shit and memorize a million moves and combos desu
Luis Myers
This reads like you dislike fundamental fighting game things in general. A smasher then?
Ethan Bell
>artificial difficulty korean backdash shit holy fucking lel
Connor Barnes
2D fighting games just look better, even if it's basic normals/neutral game.
3D games like Tekken and DOA look rigid and awkward when there isnt flashy shit going on. And even if there is, it's usually a limp body being juggled to the corner.
Ian Hall
Nah, Civ player. I got into fighting games looking for a fun experience around mind-games and thought processing but gave up when I realized it's all about memorising frame data and strings/launchers. Not fun.
Lincoln Hall
Until the FGC stops sucking Capcom's dick and Melee's ragged ass, there won't be much more room for other games to flourish. But that'll never happen because they go where the money leads them.
Cooper Walker
Tekken does lack character diversity though. Every character has very similar tools with just a few exceptions (Bears, Mishimas, Akuma/Eliza, and Gigas maybe?)
Asher Evans
>artificial difficulty korean backdash
lmao
Jeremiah Sanders
The memorising and learning and becoming proficient comes first and that's when the mind games start, when you know the game well enough.
Kayden Sullivan
Civ requires way more memorization than any fighting game.
Matthew Morgan
>it's all about memorising frame data and strings/launchers
Christian Rogers
Every single one of them.
Grayson Foster
>Memorizing frame data Not memorizing but having a general idea, yeah
>strings A few, sure
>launchers Damn, so hard to memorize like 6 moves...
Jaxon Kelly
soul calibur looked good
probably because they use weapons and the combos are generally short
Leo Edwards
>Divekick that low I bet you mash, faggot.
Nolan Perez
The only valid complaint you made is that all characters play the same, which is true.
In 2d fighters you have zoners, grapplers rush down, poke/neutral characters and everything in between.
In tekken 7 they are all the same, literally the same with different combo lists that all do the exact same thing.
Dylan Thompson
no tutorial and no single player modes ruined it
Andrew Bell
>memorizing shit
you have to do this for every fighting game but for most of them its not that bad.
tekken is worst offender by far, its a complete chore to learn this game.