Marvel vs Capcom Infinite

What the Starting roster could be

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It's not the worst thing in the world, but it's pretty disappointing when you look back at the last 2 games.

The biggest offenders of this game IMO will be:

1. The visuals (seems like they're rushing this game out the door since it comes out in September, within a year of announcement).

2. Infinity Stones (these could make or break the game depending on how they're implemented similarly to Tekken x Street Fighter's gem system)

3. Locking alot of exciting characters behind DLC (particularly, locking a boss character already in the base game behind a paywall).

4. The story mode (looks very hackneyed and lazily thrown together so far so my hopes for that went into the gutter, rushed development isn't helping this either).

Those are my gripes and why I believe this has potential to backfire on Capcom and Marvel.

1. There will be a day 1 patch for that stuff
4. Anything from the story you've seen so far you did enjoy?

Honest question here, why does everyone want Rashid?

People for some reason want more Street Fighters instead of more franchises being represented. To this end, he is in the newest one, and people claim he would be a great fit for Mahvel with his high mobility and bullshit mixups.

Thankfully there are only so many Infinity Stones, so I don't think they will try to sell more for DLC. Also, you only get one instead of 3 per character.

Because RASHIDO

In my case, i main Rashid in SFV and would like to have a SF character i can competently play in MvC

How the hell was last thread more or less comfy?

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Fair enough i guess. I would personally prefer Juri more just because this game needs more tits. It sucked that Viper got in over her for Marvel 3

Cause he's a fun character currently stuck in an unfun game. If he was in MvCI, at least I could see him cut loose.

If it gets a SF4 rep, Juri is probably the most likely. Though whether its SF4 or SF5 Juri is another question.

People who want to talk about it can easily avoid the trolls. We all know that the game has bad visuals, but the important parts of it look incredible.

>SF4 or SF5 Juri
>fun Juri or no fun Juri
It seems like an obvious choice, but Capcom has dropped the ball on easier ones.

Well, there is also a 3rd option. SF5 Juri with SF4 moveset

As long as her moves are SF4, I'm fine with most all costumes. Not like they wouldn't offer other costumes at a price, after all.

Now, if this game had better writing in the story mode, I'd REALLY want Juri. But they'd never have her there just making vaguely lewd comments to all the Marvel characters.

Sadly without her in the game we won't get a tidal wave of JurixCaptain Marvel doujins

I dont think Juri would be in story mode by the time we get her.

Considering the roster above, who would you think the season 1 dlc characters are for Capcom aside from Sigma?

I assume Akuma is being held for DLC, because it's easy and he always brings a certain amount of hype. All you gotta do is a trailer that ends with a Raging Demon, and bam.

I'm so tired of seeing that guy. I don't care if he is a mainstay. I would also prefer more franchises getting in over ones that are already represented.

Can someone explain to me why Spiderman can be in MvCI but the X-men and Fantastic Four can't?

>Rashid
you somehow managed to make it worse than it already is. congratulations, you did the impossible.

Spider-Man's movie rights are owned by Sony, and they're on good terms with Marvel. Also why he was in Civil War.

Marvel is playing nice with Sony right now. Marvel Studios is ACTUALLY also playing nice with Fox (they traded characters for Deadpool and GotG2), but Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter holds a grudge against Fox because he's a crazy person. He once ripped a FF poster off the Marvel office walls, and the writers had to beg just to write the FF out of the books instead of kill them as he originally ordered. So there is no REAL reason for the lack of X-Men and Dr. Doom in the game besides one old man's childish tantrum.

Spiderman is owned by Sony, who settled a deal with Marvel/Disney to allow Spiderman to appear within the MCU.

Meanwhile, X-Men/Deadpool/Fantastic 4 are still owned by Fox, who hates Marvel/Disney and refuses to settle on the rights, which basically caused Marvel/Disney to pretend they don't exist.

Don't tell me Rashid players beat you up in SFV. I mean, I like him, but he's not even that strong in the game.

Does Capcom have to pay royalties to Sony for every copy they sell?

Sason 1 DLC is new characters only

Geese Howard. He's in Tekken, anything can happen.

You can change 1. to presentation overall. The graphics are whack, the animations are whack, the voice acting is super whack (I just watched Strange footage and my god he sounds so damn lame while calling out stuff). Which is a shame that last part, since they seem to be adding a lot more in match dialogue (and maybe even be match up dependent, which is great) and it deserves good voice acting.

Also the controls. Even if I adjusted myself already to the PK system, how in the hell is that supposed to be any easier to know than LMHS? Like, fuck sake, several characters lost moves and strenghts, the flight command is 214+KK and that also already doubles as a hyper move for others, not to mention how awkward 2HP being the universal launcher as if doing 3H wasn't awkward already in TvC. S being a dedicated launcher/movement/misc move button was genius from Capcom's part and going back to MvC2 just feels like a downgrade.

No, Marvel has the rights to Spiderman in everything except the movies. They even have a shitty Spiderman cartoon on the air last I checked.

USM ended. Now they're working on some other trash

>but he's not even that strong in the game.
This shows how Bronze you are. He is considered top tier by many top players.

The cycle continues...

Tell me Avengers Assembled finally ended as well.

How dare they not include Doom.

Seriously? Since when? I don't watch a lot of tournament stuff, but I've never seen a Rashid make it that high up. If he's gotten much better in the last 4 or 5 months, I'm curious.

There was one in EVO top 8, but there are better characters than him

He's explosive, but no one has been consistent with him.

So Fox has full rights for the X-men and FF? Does Marvel have any plans of buying them back?

Not sure. The only one I bother keeping updated on is their GotG cartoon, which is just as bad as the rest of the shit they put out.

I wish someone would just complain about the marvel character being redesigned by capcom so that they would confirm comic costumes. I mean they add a gladiator hulk skin and decide not to fucking make it the one from planet hulk or even the fucking movie version.

Not saying the visuals do not suck but I really care more about the shitty costumes

Considering the roster above, who are 2 new characters from Capcom who have the best chance of being DLC aside Sigma?

I need my nigger Taskmaster to be in this shit

No, Fox only has the movie rights, but that is what currently makes the most money (supposedly). So it's easy speculation, especially with how Marvel has lately been treating both the FF and X-men, that they are trying to sabotage Fox's efforts by giving little to no exposure to those two teams. The idea being that they will eventually have the rights reverted back to their own movie studio.

No it's the same as Spider-man,just the movie rights but Ike is petty against Fox so goddamn much that he wants both to be buried and forgotten

Probably not. Fox does OKAY with the X-Men, and is taking it very seriously. Since Marvel still makes money off comics, games, etc. they actually do quite well when the X-Men movies do well. Which is why it's silly for Perlmutter to try to kill the X-Men, X-Men comics and such aren't going to sell noticeably more tickets to the Fox movies.

FF... I thought Fox would give up, but now there is a Dr. Doom movie planned. Hear the guy behind it is solid, and a Dr. Doom movie is the right way to go... I'd just prefer they give the rights back to Marvel or work out a Spiderman deal so Marvel makes the movie and then can use Dr. Doom a few times. If Fox can actually turn out a good movie, great, but if they fuck up again, that's another several years of nothing good happening.

I'm hoping Jill, but I don't think it's very likely.

Infinity Stones are a hundred times better than SFxT Gems. There are only 6, their abilities are significant, they are all strong enough that they seem balanced (although Shame Cube might be a bit busted), and so on.

Visuals, Story, & DLC are definitely the big issues, however. I think the gameplay looks really nice, but unless they overhaul the game aesthetically I'm not getting the game unless it's used and the DLC I want is discounted or something, and that'll be next year.

Iron Fist & Rashid have no evidence to support them despite having been plausible before leaks, and you pulled Goblin & Lady out of your ass.

See

In all of Top 32 there was only 1 person playing Rashid, Moke.

People keep saying Goblin because of Spidey's new super. It makes no sense unless you are an idiot or immensely desperate.

Also, to add to this.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT ADD IN IRON FIST.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY FROM A PPKK SYSTEM BECAUSE OF HIS REKKAS

BUT NOOO WE CAN'T HAVE ANY ACTUALLY INTERESTING RETURNING CHARACTERS THAT WOULD ALSO COME FROM PROPERTIES THAT PEOPLE CARE FOR LIKE THE NETFLIX SERIES (EVEN IF if ITSELF IS TRASH).

ALSO FUCK YOU FOR NOT ADDING IN DAREDEVIL YOU ASSHOLE HE WAS RIGHT THERE AND HAS DEMAND.

>gems are broken like the TxSF ones

stop this meme you fucking scum

What Could be. Lady and Goblin do however have more evidence than the other 2.
New characters

Man, I just really want Gambit. I want my Marvel 1 Strider/Gambit team back.

But I'd rather have Jill than a new character.

Its part that, but also because they showed nothing of the Spiderman stage in story mode yet, and Green Goblin has a high chance of appearing on the spider man variant cover (The miles comic, not the peter one)

>Goblin is on your team, he tries to back stab spiderman
>goblin is on enemy team, he tries to screw over spidey and screws over his own team

Would be cool man.

>and is taking it very seriously
Literally only after First Class ending up being surprisingly decent it wasn't, but like the original series Xavier/Mags carried the fuck out of it as per usual. They had all the time in the world to beat Marvel Studios at the "cinematic universe" game but did absolutely fuck all for about a decade. And before you bring up Logan, that is the exception to the rule of FOX's mostly mediocre handling of X-Men.

fucking this, I hate caps costume, and rockets

>implying you even played SF4 Juri to half of her potential

Capcom fell for the "in house" meme.

>1. The visuals (seems like they're rushing this game out the door since it comes out in September, within a year of announcement).
I agree, the visuals are lacking, the art style is bland, the animations are stiff and janky, and some character models are shit.

>2. Infinity Stones (these could make or break the game depending on how they're implemented similarly to Tekken x Street Fighter's gem system)
Fuck off with this meme. Infinity Stones are nothing like SFxT's gem system. They were never anything like them.

>3. Locking alot of exciting characters behind DLC (particularly, locking a boss character already in the base game behind a paywall).
Completely agree with this.

>4. The story mode (looks very hackneyed and lazily thrown together so far so my hopes for that went into the gutter, rushed development isn't helping this either).
Agreed. I always wanted to see a story mode in an MvC game but not like this. Honestly, if they barely had the resources to make this game, reused assets and all, they shouldn't have bothered with the story mode. Not like anyone's going to like it.

>Hawkeye's L3 has a fully modeled/animated Ant-man to assist with his super
>Felicia's L3 has various different catgirls modeled
>Spider-man's L3 has goblin bombs coming off screen so they don't have to create goblin

New age of lazyness.

Days of Future Past > First Class

In this age they woulda gotten complaints about not making him a character if they did make a model. Damned if the do, damned if they don't.

>>Hawkeye's L3 has a fully modeled/animated Ant-man to assist with his super
Ant-man is just a reused generic (probably Cap) male model and only had less than a handful of animations
>>Felicia's L3 has various different catgirls modeled
Smaller sized and limited animation Felicias

And as another counter point; they couldn't add Groot in Ultimate because his model was too different and the engine couldn't handle it (Maya being an assist character was a miracle).

>Days of Future Past > First Class
I don't disagree (Apocalypse was trash though), but it was First Class that made FOX actually bother trying again.

The goblin reference is cute and all but I keep finding it weird that Spidey deliberately wants to inflict total exploding harm to his opponents

but why they could have just taken the art from the comics and say hey design the characters like this and be done with it why waste time redesigning

They kinda did. The characters arent really redesigned, its more that they just gave characters outfits from different eras of the comics.

not really, gamora's god slayer is not a giant sci fi sword, their is no version of doctor strange with out the gloves that look like that, the only ones from the comics are
Hawkeye
Rocket though most likely they used the movie version the comic based their design on
hulk
thats it all the other ones either have tweaked costumes or flat out brand new designs

I have autism with that kind of thing and looked up every single costume and none of the other characters costumes match up 100 percent

I don't remember Cap looking /that/ shit. But the character model might have an effect on that

I'll hope for his inclusion but I'll brace for disappointment. He better be a hard scumbag zoner.

The character design (and voice cast) is mostly consistent with Avengers Assembled and the current crop of Marvel animated shows.

UMvC3 was the same too, mostly using EMH and Spectacular as base for the non X-men characters.

I do feel that way with Spiderman and the new show.

EMH & Spectacular are two top-tier superhero shows, so it makes sense that the game borrowing from them looked and sounded good, while the modern crop of Marvel animated shows are generic shit and so is Marvel Infinite, aesthetically.

Still doesn't explain the horribly delivery on 80-90% of lines for every single character except a couple. Even the VAs that stayed from Marvel 3/EMH are worse.

I think it just comes down to voice direction. But man, the extra match dialogue don't mean shit if it sounds bad.
>Even the VAs that stayed from Marvel 3/EMH are worse.
Which are?

>I think it just comes down to voice direction.
The voice direction matches the rest of the game: It's rushed and it feels rushed. It's like they had VAs just barrel through takes, and first or second take was "good enough" each time.

Fox has him & the X-men by the balls

>No Daredevil
>No Punisher
>No Iron Fist
>No Kingpin
Please buy Season 3 "Marvel Defenders v. Clover

>Days of Future Past > First Class
I consider them pretty equal. Future Past was probably the better film as a whole, but there was a surprising lack of action in it for a comic book movie. Also, the franchise as a whole was better before they started pushing Jennifer Lawrence/Mystique as the main character.

The only good one in MvC:I is Nova.
Captain Marvel for the newcomer

What bugs me the most is the lack of variety

Marvel i can understand

but Capcom? No excuse

>No viewtiful joe
>No Okami
>No Phoenix Wright
>Literally only new series getting a representation is Monster Hunter
>No Asura but instead makes Evil Ryu look like Asura

I'd rather Luke than Punisher 2bh. Strike grabs and Colossus' super armor special would make him a neat counterpart to Haggar's more traditional grappling.

You can tell that Iron Man, Cap, Hulk, Strange, most of the Capcom side, etc. have the same voices. They just all have worse delivery, even in similar lines to what they said in UMvC3.

Then you have the new Spidey voice which just feels off when Josh Keaton fucking killed it in Spectacular and MvC3.

>Luke Cage as a big-damage super armor character
>Gene as the main "new" character of the Clover pack
Fuck, don't make me want this game even hypothetically.

>Luke Cage and Haggar cleaning the streets of crime together
See, that's the kinda shit that should be in on DAY ONE.

New Metro City (New York x Metro City) is a stage, so i expect a defender for Story mode

It's a Spidey/Haggar stage.

Daredevil/Iron Fist/Luke Cage/Elektra. Perfect Netflix MCU reps. That shit would be a hit. Who the hell is in charge of Marvel's roster @ Marvel anyways? They suck at this shit.

Forget Season 1, post your predictions for Season 2

Marvel: Wolverine, Magneto, Deadpool, Doom
Capcom: Akuma, Wesker, Vergil, Tron

I say this because I imagine Capcom will want to backpedal on the le function meme as quick as they can, and Marvel will want to diffuse the pettiness accusations. That and it would be in their best interest to release a ton of fan favorites early 2018 to try and undermine Dragonball and the other fighters coming out in that time. Put together a bang-up trailer for PSX, and you get some easy hype.

Yes, and its the only urban stage we have. if the Defenders appear, Playable or npc, they will be there.

Doom will come later as DLC for sure, no matter how many deals they have to do to make it happen it'll happen because it's guaranteed dosh.

you like his functions not his character :^)

I think they are going to do themed seasons.
Street Fighter v. X-men will be one, because Nostalgia.
They will take the opportunity to reuse assets from 3.
So:
Wolverine, Storm, Magneto, Deadpool
v.
Akuma, C. Viper, Charlie, Cammy

They are pushing MCU movies and those alone. No Netflix reps, no characters they're pushing in comics. Even Black Panther doesn't get to be launch. The closest thing is Ghost Rider who has shown up in Agents of SHIELD, if the leaks are right.

I really would've expected them to add Kamala or something as a Dhalsim-like or rehash Deadpool's moveset into Gwnepool (would fit the "function" approach for sure).

>no matter how many deals they have to do to make it happen
All that needs to happen is for Marvel to allow it. I'm sure Capcom has been asking since day one.

>Top 3 poll of UMVC3

>Megaman
>Strider
>Phoenix Wright

>Phoenix Wright's inclusion helped revive the mainline series

>They didnt bring him back or atleast bring Apollo due to Spirit of Justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They brought back Spencer

>Marvel will want to diffuse the pettiness accusations

You underestimate just how petty Ike is. He and evidently nobody else at Marvel Entertainment seems to care about just how bad and childish all this makes them look. They're pulling this shit in the new Lego Marvel game and they just pulled all the F4 content they could out of Marvel Heroes. The Capcom side could improve but I suspect the Marvel side will continue to not have mutants or Doom.

I do honestly. out off all the characters ive mained in MvC, doom is the only one i dont care about (Strider/Jin)(SonSon/BBHood/Psylocke)(Haggar/Task/Doom)

>iron man is opposite ryu
>not spiderman or sniktbub
Bothered

This is me with Gamora right now. Do not care for her character at all, but her moveset looks fun as hell to work with (sort of like a mix of Zero and Deadpool)

>Even Black Panther doesn't get to be launch
Shows how poor the roster planing is. Imagine having the first BP trailer dropping and then getting to play as him on release?

Vets need to be free DLC for this game to be a success. New character packs for cheap then free later. If it gets as good as Avengers Alliance then it has potential.
But that's a competent move. Capcom isn't known for that.