>This is what the Final Fantasy series has slumped down to
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>NeithOF is samefagging because he got exposed
>Trying to shitpost on XV THIS fucking hard
You are the biggest cunt in existence NeithOF. That isn't even made by SE, it is just a fucking licensed game no different than all those avengers or Star wars games you see.
>Defending this shitty cash grab licensed by square enix
FFXV sold so bad that they have recoup their losses through these mobile game scams
>defending
Where? Is this how fucking desperate you are NeithOF? Act
>FFXV sold so bad
Is that why it sold more than any other FF in the US at launch, faster than any other FF worldwide and broke even on day 1? You dense fucking cunt?
Those sales weren't enough to recoup the losses from the decade long development process.
It literally confirmed to have broken even at 5m you fucking moron, and it wasn't even in full dev for 10 years you fucking cunt, stop acting like it was in full time AAA dev for 10 years when it only got it's AAA budget in 2012 when it became XV. By your logic Mother 3 and Nioh were in full time dev for 12 years.
>Broke even at 5 million
Not even close
The game was a huge hole in square enixs pocket for over a decade. They had to literally syphon budget money from other projects like FFXIV and KH3 to make FFXV happen (and it still flopped commercially and disappointed everyone's expectations)
>Not even close
Yes it fucking did. I'd rather believe SE and what the higher ups have directly stated rather than a fuckup like you who has no fucking proof to any of your bullshit.
At 5 million? That seem like quite a lot, isn't that a huge risk for Square?
I hope they never try something like that again in the future.
Isn't something like Nier Automata that sells 1.5-2 million way better when it has probably less than 1/10 the budget of XV? They also better not drop the engine again.
Best thing about this is that its literally the Mobile Strike/Game of war developers too.
They farmed final fantasy out to THE WORST kind of mobile developer.
>I'd rather believe SE and what the higher ups have directly stated
do you work for square enix? are you their community manager lol?
>and it still flopped commercially
Broke even at 5m, profited at 6m and still going up.
Has more GOTY awards than any other FF to date too. XIV is what fucking pushed back XV you dense fuck, the money they get from their mobile games is what funds all of their big AAA games.
AAA is a whole different game than low to mid budget stuff.
And what fucking source do you have? Your ass? Who the fuck are you?
Revenue, the revenue XV generated far exceeded anything something like a nier automata could make. For fiscal year 2017 they singled out XV as being the primary reason for their profits in the HD games sector.
>Merged servers so people that spent $100 on the game are absoluletly murdering free to play players and forcing people to merge into their pay to win guild
This is some next level fuckery
Yeah, but that doesn't really answer my question. Why always take a risk with one big game that might fail instead of making "smaller" games that sell 1/3 or 1/2 as much, but overall make more winnings compared to the budget put in
this game has the worst fucking ads ever
Because AAA, specifically AAA FF is the flagship of SE, it is the big draw. And no NierA didn't make more "winnings" than XV, that isn't how budget or revenue works. Look at their financial report and you will see.
I think they're kinda funny. Not in a good way, but still
U mad mr denied community manager
No, but you're a retarded faggot trying to act like you know better than the company who actually makes the game and got the money for it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT FUCK IS WITH THE RUNNING ANIMATION HOLY FUCK
Yeah u mad
I didn't say that it made more winnings. But let's say they make one XV that sells 6 million or with that budget make 10 Automata like games that all sell 2 million.
regardless, SE still made this happen. How can you defend them for this poorly made ponzi scheme?
They have the same ads as that one game that keeps getting shilled except with Final Fantasy instead of anime girls.
His head stays in place like a chicken head, impressive Noctis
First of all Automata selling 2 million was a testament to itself, there is no guarantee that smaller budget games like that ever sell that well, and really is an outlier, especially for Taro games which hardly ever sell. In fact people didn't think there ever would be a 2nd Nier game because the 1st one didn't do well, it only really got a 2nd one because Platinum approached SE wanting to do a game and the president of SE liked Nier.
I know FFXV didn't do so well but God damn. This literally kills your brand name.
>liscense the game and that is it
>everything else is MachineZone being MachineZone doing the same shit they do in all their shitty games
I'm not defending anything, I'm clearing up misinformation in you trying to act like lending some designs and reference images means SE is the one making that mobile game.
You are next in line Xenoblade series.
>I know FFXV didn't do so wel
It did very well NeithOF, but nice samefag and lack of new IP.
>inb4 b-but that doesn't count!
damn, that guy is BTFO
FFXV probably had a bigger marketing budget than development budget
I wish i was as good at samefagging as XV-kun
Hahahaha, can't believe people were saying that FFXV was going to be the Xenoblade killer.
Xenoblade killed itself.
sonnyger will never ever enjoy xenogames again without putting aside this nigger console neckbeard pride
xenoblade 2 has literally no hype and it's coming out in a few months isn't it?
Not even close. Xenoblade hasn't dropped down to microtransaction pay to win clash of clan clones like FFXV has.
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Cant´'t you keep your shit on Sup Forums xv-kun? And yes i do stalk you :^)
Now they just need the screaming man icon to attract kids
Except that game isn't the actual FFXV you stupid fucking retard, nor is it even made by SE you dumb cunt.
Is this the Hotel Mario of the Final Fantasy series?
Is that you llazy?
how gay do you have to be to still play final fantasy bwahahaha
It's licensed by SE and someone from SE had to look through the game, play it, and approve it.
>insults
>more insults
You're from australia aren't you, they can't have single argument without insults and always go to "not an argument" when they have nothing more to say
What timeline is this?
>here you can use these designs
>machine zone uses them and just reskins one of their own games with it
NeithOF it's OK you are getting butt ravaged in every single thread you've started today but at least try to not make it so obvious.
He's from Melbourne to be exact
This game is such a brutal failure in every way.
I still await Tabata's inevitable seppuku so his family name can be cleared of shame.
this is the future of failed AAA games.
Only girls and fags care about final fantasy
Well that's pretty obvious.
You seem to forget that you need people to buy your games if you want to make sales. How the fuck would you get people to buy 10 "Automata-like" games? Most people would be sick of the formula by the second game you release. Suddenly you have to think up 9 ways to freshen up the experience enough to make it worth buying every new game, while still maintaining something customers can relate enough to that they'll consider buying it. Starting to sound pretty fucking risky.
Welp, we need /vint/ back
I just meant in that budget range. Also how do you sell 11+ Dragon Quest games that basicly never changed, or FF 1-10 that didn't change too much either.
Why are you responding to yourself and resetting your IP?
>Resets his IP again and desperately trying to shit on Tabata, because he's still triggered Tabata took over for Nomura
Yep that's NeithOF
>the store page calls this a MMO
what the fuck
Nier Automata had probably a 10th of FFXV's budget and could end up selling two million units worldwide.
If SE had relied on skilled directors and artists instead of glorified pets, maybe FFXV would've also been a good game instead of the most cynical and derivative game of the century.
>ignore/filter every aussie post
>xv threads become bearable for the first time ever
if only
>NeithOF samefagging again
Yeah man it's a conspiracy against you and your shitty FFXV that has lower metascore than fucking FFXIII.
Just let it go. For your own Aussie sanity, let it go. You aren't convincing anyone. We've all seen and played the game ourselves. You won't change anyone's opinions. No matter what you put into the official guide.
Yep this is a NeithOF post, triggered by Luna too is a dead giveaway, you're literally triggered that Luna is objectively superior to Stella, it's still fucking hilarious.
>FFXV that has lower metascore than fucking FFXIII.
That is false.
FF13 PC MC = 65, user score = 5.8
FF13 PS3 MC = 83, user score = 7.2
FF13 360 MC = 82, user score = 6.3
FF15 PS4 MC = 81, user score = 7.6
FF15 XB1 MC = 83, user score = 6.8
FF13s highest score is 83 and lowest score is 65, it's highest user score is 7.2 and lowest userscore is 5.8
FFXVs highest score is 83 and lowest score is 81, it's highest user score is 7.6 and lowest userscore is 6.8
But hey NeithOF what the fuck do you know?
>"FFXV fucking flopped in gaijin land, wat do?"
>"Let's make a clash of clans clone but crank up the pay to win elements"
Just compare the Playstation (the most popular version and the one most likely reviewed).
It got beat by fucking FFXIII. Holy shit, this despite games journalists probably being bought by SE's massive marketing campaign.
But it didn't flop, FFXV is the only PS4 game in Japan to even have sold over 1 million and they only shipped 1.15 million units in Japan.
Seems about the same quality as XV.
>I just meant in that budget range.
Okay, so 10 completely random games that need to be marketed from scratch. Doesn't sound risky at all.
>Also how do you sell 11+ Dragon Quest games that basicly never changed, or FF 1-10 that didn't change too much either.
The changes they made ended up defining the genre, so they might look stagnant when you look back at them, but back then, they were revolutionary.
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>ignore the rest
>ignores the actual amount of reviews
>ignores the userscore
>ignores that the latest version of FF13 has the lowest score.
>no new IP
NeithOF samefagging again.
>NeithOF responding to himself and posting Sup Forums screencaps
>sold 1 million after all this time
>meanwhile splatoon 2 sold over 800k copies first day
You mean the broken PC version?
Speaking of PC version, didn't Tabata said he loved PC gaming very much? What happened to the PC version he kept shilling so hard? A year later and still nothing from his big mouth but empty promises. In fact, just don't bother at all. A turd in 60 fps is just a smoother turd.
what the fuck
Mario has a mobile game, FE has a mobile game, FATE has a mobile game, Pokemon has a mobile game, Fallout has a mobile game. None of these series are failing financially or critically. These are just side projects to gauge interest and get additional income. Stop reading into shit and post dumb threads.
>Final Fantasy has about 4-6 (In Japan) mobile games that are F2P and still currently running
>they just keep making more
>can't release any of their real games on time
Thank god I've never given this company any of my money in the past.
How do you take a decade to make a game?
Fucking gooks.
I guess he wants to fix the game as much as possible before releasing it on pc.
SqueEnix has several "side projects", as you call them, for this one IP that all get constant updates and content. What you should do is wipe the shit off your eyes.
What about BE and record keeper?
a lot of people here play them
What's your point? Splatoon 1 sold well too.
Brave Exvius? It's pretty fun and i usually hte mobile shit. don't know about record keeper
Not an argument.
>You mean the broken PC version?
How is it broken?
>Speaking of PC version, didn't Tabata said he loved PC gaming very much?
Yes he did NeithOF.
>What happened to the PC version he kept shilling so hard?
They've teased and hinted at it and showed various things to do with it, it's coming but obviously not until all the DLC.
>A year later and still nothing from his big mouth but empty promises.
What empty promises? Do you have some kind of proof to back up your words? Or are you really this fucking triggered NeithOF?
I guess another decade wait for the PC version by the saints at SE.
But any wait is too short for Ubisoft AAA with boy band game!
>it's Neithof trying to push the "ubisoft" meme on XV again
Man can you get some new fucking material already?
The argument is that you're mad.
Is there anything likeable about Noctis?
That fucking hair's going to poke in his eye one day if he live long enough.
A prince with the attitude of a rich punk.
Holy shit his fucking cloth.
They are still more but I can't never get pass those three points.
>Is there anything likeable about Noctis?
Yes, he's the most likeable FF protagonist, he acts like a bro, he's more dorky than he seems, he's chill as fuck and likes to crack jokes while also having an arrogant side, a lazy side.
Also you can change his outfit, and his hair isn't anything out of the ordinary for FF.
Why is XV so terrible?
This game is more pay to win than that one EA mobile game with the devil
I have never seen a mediocre game so desperate to stay relevant.
Why'd you reset your IP NeithOF?