Useless Party Members thread

Post them.

Yusuke's not useless, what are you talking about? He does great damage with his baton pass power up attacks, and accuracy buffs are great on bosses.

he's hot though

>yusuke
>usless

Funny shit.
He's 10x more useful than Ryuji (which is the worst party member in the game).
Morgana is a fag that is only good for out of combat healing.
Ann is decent but has shit gun.
Haru is top tier.
Makoto is great.

"He does good against irrelevant mobs when you have to do extra shit like baton passes"

Lmfao

He completely outclasses Ryuji until Charge, which is pretty late in the game.

Any party member that dies with your equips is shit tier.

>the gut who gets charge, god hand and attack boost is useless

Damage control

You can get his equipment back tho senpai

>bosses
>irrelevant mobs

Go to his room

wtf yusuke is my best party member

That's super late in the game, faggot. For about 70 or so hours, Yusuke is fantastic.

Ken and the dog

He has 0 utility and the protag is the damage dealer, always.

>it's true

That's actually pretty neat, never knew about this.

Ryuji is your only tarukaja until you synth a persona with one yourself

>garbage until late game where damage from your party members no longer matter

wtf I'm in love with Akechi now

Ryuji doesn't get God Hand unless you're a shitter, too high a level

DAMAGE CONTROL. I had Ryuji with all those skills at the Casino dungeon and used him for 3 dungeons.

You dumb fuck the palace bosses don't get critics so he's useless when Ryuji can buff and deal higher damage.

>I had Ryuji with all those skills at the Casino dungeon
Are you actually trying to tell me you were lvl 75 at the casino dungeon?

>not having an MC with Personas so otherworldly powerful you are at liberty to pick whatever team members you choose because they're just flavour at this point

this guy/girl

>Not using every party member equally

>implying female ryuji wouldnt have gigantic titties

>female Ryuji
OH NO MY HEART

Yusuke carried me through my 1st playthrough. You can pretty much use whoever you want in this game.

Yusuke is better than ryuji until ryuji gets charge

>Ryuji is your only tarukaja until you synth a persona with one yourself

Who cares. Only auto-tarukaja is sort of useful on your trash mob cleanup persona. Tarukaja is only sort of relevant vs bosses and even then it doesn't really cut down the amount of turns it takes to kill said boss by much.

Yes, abused flu season

>He completely outclasses
He has a shit health pool, he doesn't tank damage as well as Ryuji, and even though he's certainly faster with a higher accuracy, Ryuji still seems to hit pretty frequently.

Also, even though Ryuji's magic stat isn't as good, he still gets shock and elec boost, and gets weapons that add to that as well, whereas Yusuke always has shit magic output, making him only good for physical attacks, which he isn't even the best at compared to Ryuji or even Haru.

Plus Matarukaja is always better than Masukukaja.

Yusuke is a good dude, and a fun guy, but the most shit party member in the game. Kanji at least had some unique attacks and abilities in the last game that helped him stand out.

>makoto
>good
>only good move is Marakuja and a shitty frey spell
>0 good melee attacks

Those are all fucking terrible.

>Kanji at least had some unique attacks and abilities in the last game that helped him stand out.
Kanji is 100% better than Chie in the original release, but they become about the same in golden

It's still very fucking notable as it's the only party member attack buff their is besides your protag

And you're definitely going to get some use out of it in every boss battle you have it for

>implying
His baton pass attacks do ridiculous damage
They outdamage All-out Attacks on singular enemies, even

>DAMAGE CONTROL. I had Ryuji with all those skills at the Casino dungeon and used him for 3 dungeons.

Why the fuck were you grinding that much? I had literally beated everything there was to beat in the game at sub lv70.
Before you try and bullshit your way out by mentioning Mishima or some shit, he was one of the first confidants I maxed out.

what about forehead girl? too late to get all her confidant skill on my 1st playthrough.

sorry, girl im not interested in gardening. also her dub voice ticks me off all the time

What the fuck? So you were literally like 20-30 levels overleveled, and you're saying that WE'RE on damage control? Listen here, bitchboy. 99% of people didn't do that, since there's literally no fucking reason to, and it removes any semblance of challenge from the game. That's not the norm. What were you even thinking when you made that argument, it makes no sense...

Yusuke has great physical skills and his damage output is way above average

Flu season.

I wanted higher level demons early as possible and i didn't have enough cash to fuse constantly.

>>not having an MC with Personas so otherworldly powerful you are at liberty to pick whatever team members you choose because they're just flavour at this point

Allies with healing are very nice to have, this is partially what makes Ryuji so shit.
Ann, Makoto and Morgana have healing spells and Haru has the most utility. This leaves Ryuji and Yusuke and Yusuke is a far better party member though most of the game.

>Plus Matarukaja is always better than Masukukaja.
Other way around. Tarukaja is nice to have but sukukuja should always be up against bosses.

good melee attacks
So much shit doesn't block Nuclear or is straight up weak to it, you don't need phys on her. Her stats and the gear that she gets that amps up her stats are so powerful, that her standard melee is fine as a free attack, especially because she has a high chance to crit on top of the fact that gear she get also amplifies this.

Her SP pool is solid, so she's good for doing triple duty as defense buffer, healer, and Atomic Flare girl. On top of that, she is pretty fucking resilient compared to the other two people with heals and buffs, whereas they may as well be made of paper. She's only weak to Psy, which is uncommon, while they're weak to all sorts of shit.

Makoto is a bad character, but you have to admit at how totally OP she is to being incredibly crucial to a party.

Obviously that's not what most people did you fucking autist. Why would you try to present your situation as normal?

>Listen here, bitchboy. 99% of people didn't do that, since

That's a lie. Loads of people abused the reaper since he was literally free XP. People who play persona or SMT always end up overleveled at the end anyways, ain't my fault Atlus gave me an early opportunity to raise my levels in tens by minutes. Besides the point Ryuji is factually better member than Yusuke with all their skills.

>It's still very fucking notable as it's the only party member attack buff their is besides your protag

Again, who cares. The other characters are just straight up better. I couldn't care less about beating the boss 1-2 turns faster or whatever.

ryuji best girl

i like how akechi is exactly the same but with a skirt

>doubles your damage
>beating a boss 1-2 turns faster
you're a fucking moron.

>sukukuja should always be up against bosses.
No, you should be using debilitate on bosses, then Matarukaja on yourself to amp up the hits even more.

With the boss's attack and accuracy down, you don't have to worry about getting hit.

Debilitate is a much more useful in terms of cost effectiveness, and you can get it pretty early.

Makoto has some of the most retard OP equipment in the game and the demons needed to make it are oddly lower leveled than the other party members.

Not to mention her element is one of the most common enemy weaknesses.

>Ryuji is a better party member!
Yeah, but only in the endgame
>No, he's good in the midgame too, all you have to do is break the game
Literally you right now

>he doesn't tank damage as well as Ryuji
>Yosuke getting hit in the first place

>and even though he's certainly faster with a higher accuracy, Ryuji still seems to hit pretty frequently

Not in my 2nd playthrough. Used Ryuji instead of Yusuke all playthrough and he would miss AOE phys stuff like a mofo.

>shock boost/magic dmg
>using magic for anything else than hitting weaknesses

>Ma-kaja
Yusuke gets his 10 levels earlier. + using the Sukunda+Sukukaja cheese is so much dumb fun.
Yeah, I dunno. But hey, anything works in this game. I think the Baton Pass thing is Yusuke is OP for most of the early game.

>Plus Matarukaja is always better than Masukukaja.

You don't sound too convinced of your own point

probably because it is idiotic

Absurdly powerful, reflect in general cheeses some bosses and her gun skills have stupidly high crit.

Yusuke is great.
I think the only party member I didn't use all that often was Ann, not that she isn't useful but she's just not as useful as everybody else.

what equipment is this

Not him and I've already kinda forgotten but she gets +10 to all stats weapons and all that ridiculous shit (I think she has one more that's not stat related)

Ryuji, Ann, Makoto is the best party you can make. Anything else isn't optimal.

Theres no reason to even baton pass half the time though. Haru just fucks everything over late game and Ann destroys everything early game

She is just 'alright' for most of the game, but she is the shit vs most if not all bosses. Late game especially.

>retards trying to tell me ryuji isn't shit

Why are babies that played this game on the lowest difficulty while also grinding out of their asses even posting ITT?

>character enables you to kill a boss 1 or 2 turns faster
>What a shitty character, right guys?

How can a person be this retarded?

That's just not true. The baton passing damage buff really adds up, and if you stack it with Yusuke's baton pass attack skill, it does massive damage.

Persona 5 was already broken as soon as you maxed confidents, it doesn't matter. Yusuke only good for useless mobs while Ryuji is good for shit that matters.

Played on hard, Ryuji is better than Yusuke

Both Ryuji and Yusuke are good, however Ryuji has the upper hand of getting multi hit moves, which in the end are much better than Yusuke's. Plus he learns Tarukaja so that makes him better.

Ann is your strongest magic user. And yeah, I agree on the last two. Makoto is good but doesn't excel at anything, although she gets one of the best, if not best weapon in the game.

This was my Yalda/Twins team. No brainer.

For knuckles you can use either one that gives high crit chance or another one that gives her high chance of dealing any status effect

Her weapon is a +10 to all her stats

Not even joker gets something like this. +5 to all stats is the best he can get

>personababby trying to brag about difficulty

Easiest Persona after IS

Makoto is great as a defensive buffer/ healer and she's much better than Mona simply because she can take more hits.

Yeah, I mainly used Ann for her charm and sleep skills in Momentos when I felt like gaining extra damage.

The entire point of Persona starting from 3 is that it doesn't make a lick of difference who your party is since the protagonist is inherently several times superior than everyone else, meaning every single factor other than him is automatically superfluous. No matter who you bring, the protagonist is gonna pull 90% of the weight anyway.

She has two ultimate melee weapons from level 70~ demons. Everyone else gets theirs from 80+ stuff. She also has the best gun in the game.

Plus a lower level 200 attack fist with medium crit at level 45~

she's good for dealing with bosses just for tarunda alone, plus she can fill a secondary healer role if you need one

Ann is the highest damage dealer besides MC

>You don't sound too convinced of your own point

I am, but utility will always trump damage. You trying to tell me that Ryuji gets to buff allies attacks (when the protag can do this if you really wanted to) means fuck all. Seriously it's fucking irrelevant. You'd much rather have any of the women over Ryuji and Morgana is also better. That leaves Yusuke which is by far better through most of the game.

You're trying to tell me that the reason to use Ryuji over any other character is that he gets tarukaja somewhat early. For real? Fuck off.

What kind of bizarre mental gymnastics are you even doing right now? Grinding to lvl 99 is VASTLY more broken than maxing some confidants. Also, most people don't want to go out of their way to break a game, retard.

>ryuji have average magic and physical
>yusuke have op pyhsical and lack magic damage
>imo its better to have a more focused role character
>also magic is only used for weakness and most of the time damage is dealt with physical skills + crits
>also baton pass moves + counter skills
> also cool katana animations

yusuke ftw

>although she gets one of the best, if not best weapon in the game.
although the best weapon in the game is pretty useless when her shit is already medicore

good thing the game is easy enough to let an all rounder like her to have a use

Why don't people just realize there isn't a bad party lineup in this game?

>Played on hard, Ryuji is better than Yusuke
>only hard

persona 5 is retard easy. it has interesting systems and shit which you don't even need to use on the lower difficulties. you thinking that ryuji is good tells me precisely how shit you are.

Around the time people stop calling Ryuji a cuck if the MC fucks Ann since he lowkey ships Ann and Joker?

Yusuke isn't as good as Ryuji late, but he's much more usable than Morgana at any point.

That was her exact role in my posse.

Pretty much, but i'd argue it's not exactly valuable outside boss fights, since knocking down mobs should be your primary goal when traversing dungeons.

Thinking Yusuke is better than Ryuji tells me precisely how shit at the game you are senpai. I bet you played on easy

Morgana is pretty useless I think most of us can agree on that. Makoto completely outclassed him

>Why don't people just realize there isn't a bad party lineup in this game?

You can manage with any party, but even implying that Ryuji isn't amongst the weakest party members is the game is downright delusional. It doesn't matter if you think Yusuke or Ryuji is the worst because both are on the lower end.

Makoto and Haru are the best in the game, that leaves a single filler role which can be anyone.

ryuji, ann, morgana for me

The confidents already made the game easy. Is that hard to understand? It doesn't matter of it gets easier since it was never hard to begin with all these new mechanics.

You say that but at the end of the majority of people maxed the strength confident to get level 90+ demons anyways either at shido's or mementos depths. Don't know why you're trying to pretend most people finish this with some level 60/70 demon

now that I think about it

Makoto's place in the party is stuck being a healbot/defence buff bot and occasionally attacking

because physical is king

Ann does more damage than Haru :^)

>his counter to someone telling him that he only played on hard is to accuse said person to play on easy

Why are people this mentally ill allowed on the internet?

>when her shit is already medicore
Nigger what. She has the best element in the game and her and Haru have crits which is critical to dealing with bosses.

Of course you didn't, idiot, you actually have to play games to know all of their contents.

ONE SHOT KILL is high tier with high crit. Triple Down can come close to Satanael or Vishnu Riot Gun if all connect on a single target, aka bosses.

Haru is also for breeding and running a cafe shop with your kids.

I'm literally mimicking what he's been saying

>Matarukaja
>charge
>swift strike

There is literally no reason to use Yusuke over Ryuji. I'd say you could use both, but there's no reason to use him over Haru, Makoto, or even Ann either. You can't crit bosses, so his unique skills are garbage, he learns the stronger magic spells way later in favor of tons of useless physical attacks, and he's overall incredibly lackluster. Counterstriker is kind of cool, but that's about it.

Doesn't mean there's not an optimal one.

I'd only use Morg if I was 90+ in the twins fight. I tried doing Sukunda+Sukukaja shenanigans at 50/60 and it would not make any difference. I'd still miss and the twins would hit everything.

Makoto has BS equipment that makes her nearly as fast as Morg, takes more hits AND has Marakukaja that's more consistent.