After playing Grimoire, I'm interested in checking other old-school blobbers. Especially because while I enjoyed Grimoire, I found Grimrock and MMX pretty dull.
So, any recommendations Sup Forums?
By the way, I'm looking for turn-based games, and I'd strongly prefer "modern" conveniences like fast-walking, an automap and the ability to place notes on it.
>blobbers
kys
no u
bump
>old-school blobbers
>"modern" conveniences like fast-walking, an automap and the ability to place notes on it.
You're fucked. You could get something like Grid cartographer to help map i guess. Or go ask on the codex.
Ok, ignore the "modern" conveniences part. Any recommendations at all?
Wizardry 6 snes version
Why the SNES one?
Because the pc one looks like crap.
If you can stomach that, play the pc version so you can use the same party in 7 and 8
>blobbers
Oh boy, here we go again.
Sure. In rough order:
Wiz 6-8 trilogy. (6 has a mod for automap, 7 has it kind of inbuilt, 8 is 3d but really fucking good.) Don't play the snes 6 version, your save won't carry over.
Realms of Arkania trilogy ( has iso combat).
Might and Magic World of Xeen.
All generally considered the kings of the turn based blobbers.
Ok
Great, thank you.
If it's gotta be grid based movements, go with Might and Magic 3, 4 and 5 the latter two known as World of Xeen as they combine into one bigger game together. Cartography is in, but you have to learn the skill first.
If movement in a 3D world isn't an issue, then go for Wizardry 8 as well.
Thanks.
>No one ever mentions Wizards and Warriors.
Start playing Wizardry.
Is it any good for a beginner?
How does it compare to MM? Especially the combat.
wiz8 with enhancements that speed up the game is by far the best in the genre imo
its bugged slow and tedious
tried play it many times
Go to /vr/ HoMM general and download Might and Magic 3-8
Speaking of /vr/, isn't there a general for Wizardry too?
Is it "ok" to skip the first to part of the trilogy?
/vr/ probably can help you better.
I doubt anybody here plays games.
>slow and tedious
Wrong.
>bugged
Borderline unplayable is more like it.
What general? I can't see a Wizardry question being well-received in the MM thread.
get out of this thread faggot everyone here but you is making recommendations
The only game with a story that isn't self-contained is Wizardry 6, 7 and 8, called The Dark Savant Trilogy.
Currently playing this one
>Realms of Arkania trilogy
Anyone have an opinion on the remake of the first game? I know the remake was released as a buggy mess, but how is it nowadays?
Maybe my copy was fugged
got it from cover cd in one of the magazines years ago and every time i tried it looked like suffering despite changing to faster computer over time
>the only game
>lists three games
wut
Looks like dunegon of regalis
store.steampowered.com
$5.00 currently.
Looks like bootleg Grimrock with MMO combat.
>MMO combat
That's not a positive.
the story is nothing special, just play whichever games look interesting enough
Poorly worded, but you know what I mean.
Also The Dark Savant trilogy is considered to be the best one, so you can skip the previous ones if you'd rather start with the newer games in the series.
Since you recognized the art style, I'll give you a straight answer.
This is an older one made by either the same team or just the artist.
The "Z" in the title makes it 10x cooler.
"bootleg" isn't a positive either.
Indeed.
Didnt play this one because i thought other their games are just vn
I had no idea they remade this game, but it looks like it's pretty ugly and buggy.
Does Lands of Lore still hope up? I remember it fondly, but it's been years since I played it. Can't even remember if it had an automap.
On that note, I don't even mind drawing a map in those dungeon crawlers, though what did piss me off is that you never knew where in the dungeon you'd start off, so if you guessed wrong, you'd either have to transfer to a new paper or tape another paper to the edge of the one where you ran out of space.
Eye of the Beholder 1 is excellent. A good variety of party compositions, simple story line, each dungeon level has a unique theme, tons of secrets and some moderately challenging puzzles. EOB 2 is even better, although 3 seems to be universally hated.
As others have mentioned, Wizardry 8 is the best of that series in my opinion (the banter between party members is incredible) and I personally love M&M 6-8.
Alot of companies don't really make it obvious when their games have actual gameplay. People like me have to investigate and research to find the good ones.
This one uses a skill tree system where you can continue leveling up skills you've already learned or unlock new ones, but it doesn't reveal what the later skills are that you'll unlock until you fulfill the requirements. Each character has a different skill tree. This is the Priest's.
Yes, in fact Lands of Lore is a good entry point if you're new to dungeon crawlers.
Dungeon crusaderz was for other company
i think they broke up and formed new one
OP here, I'll give them a look, thanks.
Regarding manual mapping I'd suggest using a spreadsheet program. While it is nice to have physical maps I find the ease of a spreadsheet program to be too high to pass up. You can then also pass your maps onto someone else should the need arise.
Is there a decent app to help you draw maps while you're playing a vintage dungeon crawler? Something simple that lets me place a line for walls and maybe a few icons or a comment for each box of a grid? Same way as if I were drawing on paper?
Instead of the typical equip system you see in other games, each of your characters has 1 accessory slot and 3 magic stone slots. Magic stones can give you simple bonuses like increasing your max HP to more interesting ones like adding poison effect to your attack.
You can also upgrade some stones to make the effect stronger.
It is, just don't play Wiz IV unless you hate yourself.
It was just as you said previous game of the same artist. dc was for kaguya , regalis for sirius few years later
Yeah, I've heard about it.
Either use a paint program with grid function and snap to grid enabled. A spreadsheet program like microsoft excel where you can fill in cells using different colors for different landmarks, or try this program: zerker.ca
I was surprised I couldn't find an offline version of the Etrian Odyssey mapper, I figured somebody would have ported it just for the sake of it.
Honestly, all-in-all it is a pretty meaty game. If the team were to go back and give it some QoL changes for today's computers, they could definitely release this on Steam if they wanted and earn those weeb-bucks.
Wiz 7 for the closest thing to Grimoire.
Wiz 8 for the "blobber" ever made.
Might and Magic 4 - 7 were all fun too.
I just hope they still get the same funding under this new company to continue making games with the same or better quality. Creating an actual game costs alot more than just your typical VN.
Nope enjoy you shitty sakura crap instead
or rpg maker
trash with hentai scenes
new sirius games look like its gonna be slg only wit6hout rpg
Isles of Terra is better than 4 and 5
Thanks user.
I just want them to bring one over to Steam so these weeb plebs can experience what they're missing. They can't into finding Japanese games outside of Steam on their own anyway.
>new sirius games look like its gonna be slg only wit6hout rpg
I think it's related to one of their older games. Can you imagine it's been 9 years now since they made DC2 and they're still around to make new games?
Dungeon Master 1-2
or just search them by genre on some sites like Abandonia for old games.
MIGHT AND MAGIC SIX AND SEVEN, PLEB
Dungeon of Regalias was that artist latest rpg and was out in 2016
i actually got stuck in there somewhere
and didn't bother to finish it
other games arent rpgs but various vn id difffrent setting
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Can't help the feeling that the pic is somewhat incomplete...
>didn't bother to finish it
That's a shame, but it's your game. You play how you want.
Map were boring as fuck
most dungeon crawler maps are boring if you think about it.
Not knowing jap doesn't help neither
Please, don't call them "Blobbers"
in dc you at least had typical 3d dungeon...
First post best post
>blobbers
I don't get it
It's ok to be retarded.
What do you guys think of the new Bard's Tale?
it will beshit like all inexile games
i am sure about it
It's just a blobber starter pack.
Fixed.
No it isn't and I still don't get it.
...
lurk more newfag
>blobbers
why? the best golden age crpgs are all top down.
play bard's tale, I guess.
>excited to see a dungeon crawler thread on Sup Forums
>it's just memes
You guys are so fucking shit at everything.
The remake is horribad, don't even think about it
What fucking memes? People hate that term as much as people into roguelikes hate when you call roguelites roguelikes.