*blocks your path*

*blocks your path*

I don't know which is worse, Dark Brotherhood attacks in Morrowind or random vampire raids in Skyrim.

*it alrights your thread*

those guys were good money early on

>be random prisoner with barely any background worth nothing just leaving the boat to Morrowind
>tired from the trip so take a rest outside in the swampy grass
>highly trained assassin wakes me up and wants me dead for some reason

Vamp raids for me are awful, they always pop up whenever I fast travel to deposit my shit in Whiterun.

these guys are like loot pinatas if you dont use a mod to disable/nerf them with a mod

Yeah assuming your level 1 ass doesn't get one-shotted and can actually land hits on him.

Man I know Morrowind is keen on letting the player break the game and shit but these guys were too much. Free fucking gold and a strong full light armor set that you can get very early on

At this point I don't even loot them and just handicap myself on purpose. Not like it's hard to get money in this game anyway

I was playing Morrowind just a few minutes ago as a level 1 throwaway character and I easily killed a Dark Brotherhood assassin

>actually land hits
You can easily get numerous scrolls at level 1 that will help you win the fight or escape with a single left click.

That's because you got absurdly lucky. Nothing really else to it.
But what if you just started and didn't even bother heading towards a shop or anything yet?

How the fuck is anyone able to use heavy armor at low level? You can barely move

>That's because you got absurdly lucky. Nothing really else to it.
Not him, but you don't have to be lucky to kill an assassin at level 1. They're easy to kill if you're not a brainlet.

>But what if you just started and didn't even bother heading towards a shop or anything yet?
Then suffe the consequences of ignoring all the queeues the game gives you to guy buy shit. You even get a pop up when you leave the census office to check out the trade house, and if you ask NPCs for advice they'll tell you pretty much everything you need to survive
>if a fight is tough, RUN
>buy scrolls and potions
>don't go anywhere without decent gear
>train your skills
>don't be a hero when you're new

>depositing shit in Whiterun
>can't sell stolen goods
>only one general trader
>small home with no mannequins
Windhelm is better as a base of operations in every way, and I am saying that as someone who plays without quick travel except by carriage (and I use even that only sparingly)

>try game yesterday
>fuck around in aztec looking dark elf city
>join warrior guild on bare chest guy's orders
>first mission is killing rats
>buy crab shell armor
>shove my weapon up the rat's ass like twenty times
>no damage no damage no damage damage
>die

Arx Fatalis is better

Statistically speaking most of the time the assassin would easily wreck you.
I don't remember the Seyda Neen tradehouse having anything really worthwhile except for a few equipment and some magic you can buy.

I really can't tell if people are trolling or really are this unaware? The die roll combat is one of the most well known parts of the game.

Use weapons you are good with.
Always keep an eye on your stamina.
Those rats are actually pretty though IIRC.

>action oriented combat
>relies on turn based combat mechanic

Arx Fatalis should have gotten the spot

>you will never be a dark elf living in Morrowind.

Good. Morrowind is probably really stinky, way too hot, and grimy.

>tfw no mushroom house
Vampire raids.
>have to start from my last save because they killed an important vendor who decided to fight master vampires with their bare hands
>have to get a mod that makes them hide in their house when vampires attack
This really wouldn't be a problem if there wasn't like 5 dudes total in each city.

I'd rather live in a province that isn't a desert or a swamp or an island that has a giant volcano right in the middle

Is it worth it to reboot the game just to do bloodmoon? I don't feel like grinding shit to do the dlc.

The Assassin is actually leveled. If you're low level, he is too.

So what about Ultima 7 Legend of Grimrock, or Daggerfall?

Why do nuMales like Morrowind so much?

...

thank the divines for that

>chilling in your house in Balmora with your qt dark elf and your best friend
>suddenly lava starts flowing into the living room
>argonians burst into the room and rape your gf in front of your with their lizard cocks
>get stabbed by your best friend who was actually a Boethiah cultist, nobody does anything because she's supposed to be one of the """""good daedra""""
>everyone chokes to death by a yet another ash storm

Why are Dunmer so cruel to each other?

Is there any decent mods for difficulty? It's been a long time since I played, but I'm dicking around doing stuff in the mainland and it's been stupidly easy so far, I even cranked difficulty to 100 and most enemies can't even touch me. I forgot if Tribunal/Bloodmoon were particularity harder.

If there's one thing I learned from playing Morrowind is that Dunmer are assholes
Orcs seem respectable and reasonable people in comparison

Speaking of violence, is playing the game as pure warrior boring? I'd imagine you become a murder machine at some point, but if all you do is swing a weapon and drink the occasional potion I'd imagine it must be boring

Not really. You'd die to a meteor before any of that happened.

Life is rough in Morrowind

>When a chunk of the city is suddenly barren and vendors are dead because NPCs got wiped out by a vampire attack.
>Literally have no idea when it happened so you can reload a save to get them back.
Fuck that stupid shit. Who at Bethesda thought that was a good idea?

Warrior is my favorite in terms of combat I think. Don't find it much more boring than firing a red ball at things at any rate. The efficiency of the warrior is pretty nice.

>Playing anything but a sneaky archer.
You know you're playing the game wrong, right?

They are a lot harder, at least in my experience.
Even with the cheat ring from the Duke you can get fucked fairly fast.

Not if you want to have an enjoyable time. Bows are just boring in Morrowind.

>We was supposed to get the saint in Oblivion

Why did he have to go Kvatch

Um, no sweetie.

Oddly enough, as much as I've played Skyrim, I have never went and gotten a second base other than Whiterun.

I'm getting the itch to play it again and I still haven't finished my Oblivion playthrough.

>wanting to be a nigger elf
>not wanting to be a beautiful wood elf
>not wanting to live in trees
>not wanting to cannibalize everything and everyone you kill

You are wrong, on default difficulty using the ring of healing you start with and the correct equipment for your class you will beat the assassin every time.

I usually love sneaky characters but sneaking in Morrowind feels weirder than Oblivion and Skyrim

Although this gave me the idea to make a sneaky warrior so thanks.
But in the case of a char like that, the qestion is Hlaalu or Redoran? I did a bit of Hlaalu until I met the imperial dude who wanted to see me naked, their quests are pretty fun imo. And all I know if Redoran is that their starting quests suck ass

if you sleep in one of the balmora fighters guild double beds he can get stuck between them and can't do anything

>play tes3mp
>these niggers spawn every time you rest regardless of level/time rested/any other factors
fukc'm

>he doesn't play the way I play
>"uM, nO sWeEtIe"

sign of the steed nigga

make sure your stamina bar is full or near full otherwise your gonna miss most of the time.

I'm just replaying with openmw and I've been modding it for 4 days in a row. I have a fantastic game to play atm, but I'm using a leveling system that fucks me over (Natural Character Growth and Decay - Morrowind Edition), and I am refraining from raiding vaults and checking wikis. I'm having a blast exploring and being a poorfag.

>tfw the first time I discovered the vivec city vaults
I spent the next 8 hours finding, looting, running, and carefully placing that shit in the house I chose as my own

I'm also using Necessities of Morrowind for the first time. The stamina penalties and having to eat, drink and sleep make everything a lot more difficult, but it's super fun and comfy cooking your own food and stuff like that.

I only ever raided the radoran vaults, since there was that bitch that had the key with her.

Fuck you this is my thread now

I get that most players that are deep into the lore like the Empire, and see it as this anchor for the series, as though TES won't be TES without it, but come the fuck on, the Empire is on the way out and it isn't some tonal shift for Skyrim to spell it out.

What is the Empire in 4E 201? Cyrodiil, yet Cicero's journal depicts mass civil unrest in the imperial province even years after the war, that must be stabilised.
High Rock, but they have always contributed the bare minimum so that the Imperials would leave them the fuck alone. Even during the Great War they didn't do much.
And maybe Skyrim. Maybe. I doubt so because as I'll try to establish the general trend points to the Empire's disintegration, but they haven't totally left yet.

So thats 2.5 provinces with the Empire. The Dominion have 3 more united, smaller provinces together.

Hammerfell bolted since it was nearly as loyal to the Empire as Skyrim, but the Medes fucked them over in the White Gold Concordat (which is the writers' hint to you that the Empire is not looking out for the interests of provinces that aren't Cyrodiil).

Morrowind also got fucked over by the Empire, being given minimal support after the Red Year, and then getting fucked by plagues and Argonians, the Dunmer are now led by the Empire-sceptic Redoran, and the pro-E Hlaalu being destroyed in revenge. If that doesn't imply Imperial waning then the lack of living legionnaires on 4E Solstheim does.

Inner Black Marsh was never really under their control, but after the Oblivion Crisis the Hist's autistic treeing and flat out invasion of Morrowind sets them beyond Imperial control as well.

But why all of this world building now? Isn't it a bit sudden for most provinces to leave the empire, and for the south-western ones to form a rival empire?
Well lets look quickly at what happens during and after each TES game regarding the Empire.

TES 1's premise is about the Emperor getting kidnapped and the chaos that comes with poor rule in his place. Much of this disruption is still felt in the background of Oblivion. The crisis even puts a Nord-Dunmer war on hold that had been building since TES 1.

Daggerfall was all about how little the Bretons and the Redguards actually gave a shit about the Empire. Every once in a while they'd meddle in local affairs, but they weren't loyal subjects like the Nords. Also in the end various factions murder and pillage their way to glory good and evil, and the Empire does fuck all because the winners paid their taxes.

Morrowind? The setting centres around the Dunmer either openly show disdain for the Empire for being the foreigners that they are, desecrating their holy lands, or playing nice to get ahead and talking shit when the faux-Romans are out of the room.
The only reason the Empire is even there is because the Tribunal were dumbasses and gave Tiber Septim an autistic doomsday robot and then capitulated, before losing divinity anyway and/or dying, completely selling out their people.

Oblivion fucked up the whole continent and ended the Septim dynasty, and it baffles me that people stay attached to the Empire after this death blow. Uriel Septim is dead. So are his children. The same Septim from TES 1 dies in this game, and with it the empire we've known from this series.

That's why I always play an Argonian. Inflatrating-invader master-race!

That, and you're a fucking dragon/croc humanoid

>tfw no comfy Silt Strider to ride around with my buds

There's never been a moral reason for the other provinces to be subservient to the Empire, and now there isn't even a spiritual one, Akatosh won't save them again because the Medes are Colovian upstarts, and have proven that they can't govern responsibly by signing the White Gold Concordat, gutting the Empire's military capability as well as moral for what appears to be absolutely nothing in return.
The Thalmor don't concede anything for getting the humans to abandon a Divine that exists for mens' benefit, and men lose something of existential importance

>Oh, but people still worship privately, Ulfric's an agitator and thats exactly what the Dominion want

The Dominion have gotten this far by playing 4D chess and clever ruses and backup plans, but banning Talos worship is dangerous and cannot stand.

It is more important than losing the Blades, in fact I'd put it above losing Hammerfell and Skyrim because this is a universe where its been established beyond doubt that reality can be shaped by the mass consciousness of people. The power of the Divines is tethered to this, and when Talos worship is forced underground it is weakened, diminishing his power.

The lore buffs are eager to throw around the Ulfric document at the Thalmor Embassy and assert that he's a sleeper agent but omit that the Thalmor really just want the war to be prolonged to drain resources and produce more dead men, therefore less physical manpower opposing the Dominion, but also spiritual energy for a God that hates them.

On this, I don't get this brand of autism that requires people having to spell out the above to hardcore fans of the series every single time there's been an Imperial v. Stormcloak thread any time in the last 5 years. Do they hope that if they push this meme long enough that the TES6 writers will make it true? I hope so, better that than the possibility that they would argue for years on the internet and never actually read what they are talking about.

I haven't played Morrowind since shortly after it launched. Any mods should I install to make it playable? Graphics mods recommendations are welcome too.

Vamps are only a threat to random Townsfolk I don't give a shit about. Dark Brotherhood fucking comes at me while I'm still a shit level (without a mod) so DB for me.

MGE XE and Morrowind Code Patch.
Don't fall for the *miss* meme it goes away really quick if you know what you are doing.

What do you think the Thalmor want? In any case Skyrim and the Empire are weakened, but a Skyrim devoid of Thalmor agents patrolling the lands for worshippers, a Skyrim with no Thalmor in government positions, no footholds to speak of, is a much more problematic foe than one tethered to the Empire, one that would be forced when the time comes to defend Cyrodiil even if the vast open plains between Valenwood and the Imperial City are indefensible.

But say the Empire takes the fight to them first, at what cost? For Cyrodiil to be secure it would have to establish permanent footholds in Dominion territory.

Elsweyr is of little strategic importance to the Dominion, it being a client state, so that could be a possibility, but Valenwood is a dense forestland, not the Legion's comfort zone, and the only force ever to conquer Alinor is the aforementioned autistic doomsday robot, which the Medes don't have.

The logistics are not on Emperor Medes's side.
Also at the end of the Dark Brotherhood quest line, one of the 6 or 7 quest lines in the game you are expected to create entire play-throughs around and be accepted for doing so, you assassinate the old fuck, so its canon that the Emperor is gonna die in the province that may secede.
One of the quest markers says [*Kill the Emperor*] , how much more blatant can you be?
This is the part where loyalists say there's an alternate quest to destroy the DB, but Bethesda lack the balls or the work-ethic to display a longstanding faction on the brink, only for the canon option to be the one that involves 3 quest lines instead of 30.


TL;DR: The Empire is a sinking ship, and its weird that so many fans either don't appreciate or don't want to accept this decades-long developing theme of the series.

The Empire is already dead, they just don't know it yet. It's pretty common knowledge.
Provinces would be much better as their own sovereign state anyway.

Thanks. I assume those are compatible with the GOTY edition of Steam?

That's a pretty good analysis.

Yes. Don't forget to grab the official Bethesda plug-ins too. You can easily find them on UESP

The stormcloaks are just a bunch of puppets. I don't work for no puppets.

Thank you, user. I really appreciate it.

>tfw Silt Striders aren't real
Why even live bros?

>"The Emperor is getting old. Don't know how much longer he'll hang on. So is the whole Empire, for that matter. Getting old, that is. The Emperor and the legions have held the Empire together for hundreds of years. It's been a good thing, by and large. But maybe it's time for a change. Time for something young and new. What? No idea. Because I'm old. Old dog doesn't get new ideas. But maybe young folks like you should try some new ideas. I don't know. Could be messy. But change is never pretty."
t. tiber septim

The Stormcloaks fight for a good cause but their leadership is fucking retarded

They're retarded for being led by a retard.

REDORAN BEST HOUSE
FUCK OFF HLAALUFAGS

>that wailing
in Dragonborn, have to stop and close my eyes and absorb the comfy when I hear it

You're a sad N'wah in denial.

>not being a telvaneet

Hlaalu is the one bringing in all the n'wahs.

The best house

>traveling all the way the Whiterun to take a shit.

>mid-member of mages guild
>at balmora chapter
>dark brotherhood attack
>getting my ass handed too me
>"how wonderful! welcome outlander!"

>not leaving massive shits all over the cloud district

>TL;DR: The Empire is a sinking ship, and its weird that so many fans either don't appreciate or don't want to accept this decades-long developing theme of the series.

This, allot of people are blind to it for whatever reason, and I really like the empire, but they've been in decline since Arena, even before it but Uriel VII was fixing shit until Jagar fucked it for him, then he came back tried to do it still but the damage had been done. The empire died with Martin, the Mede Dynasty is just a Pale imitation of it.

That said I'm of a mind a new Empire will eventually rise, it's happened before it's not like the Septim's were the first, that said whatever new Empire comes up after the Medes, won't encompass all of Tamriel. And probably won't come up until after the Dominion gets dealt with somehow.

One of the reasons I hold out hope for Beyond Skyrim being a success is that the region of Morrowind they have put the most work into so far is Redoran-controlled Velothis (that bit of land between Skyrim and Vvardenfell). If they fail we might never see that place in the detail it deserves

Dark Brotherhood attacks are fucking great cuz they are weak as hell and their armor sells for a shit ton of money

Bruma already looks good, but TFW my PC is too shit to run Special Edition, and I'm a PS4 fag.

I need to upgrade already. But it's nice to see a mod for extra provinces that isn't just them basically porting the old game to the new engine.

When he blocked my path he got glitched into the bunk beds and I just left him there.

>fag

>almsivi intervention scrolls to escape
>35-60 frost damage on touch scrolls to nuke him
>scrolls for healing health and fatigue to keep yourself alive
>summon skeleton minion scroll to make it easier
>sujamma for massive damage bonus
Not to mention Arillle himself mentions he has potions and scrolls when you first talk to him, they're even dialogue choices. There are zero excuses for being unprepared for that fight, buying just one of the above makes it an easy win. Let's dispel this myth that a level 1 character is helpless and bound to rng for success. USE THE FUCKING TOOLS THE GAME GIVES YOU

Skyrim is a shite.
I'll wait another 100 years for OpenMW and TR

I locked one in the upstairs room at the Thieves Guild in Balmora. And then later an Ash Slave that popped out of my dreams.

>since Arena
A bit before that, Uriel VII's reign was always a shitfest

Wouldn't surprise me, but it would make more narrative sense, after everything, if TES6 or 7 was set when the Empire had properly died and the foundations for a new one is starting to form.

Again, many that follow the lore most enthusiastically don't want to accept the Empire falling because their previous playthroughs and such were all about defending it. As though the Alessian and Reman empires never rose and fell. If the 3rd Empire was meant to be eternal then it was a mistake to establish that there were 2 previous identical ones that collapsed.

The empire can function fine without an emperor, after oblivion when there was no emperor the elder council ruled the empire, everything only started to fall apart when the thalmor assassinated high chancellor ocato. Titus Mede would definitely have had heirs, who he would probably be preparing strongly to rule since when the first Great War happened Titus Mede had only been emperor for a few years, I doubt he would want to see that situation repeated. The first Great War started then the empire was completely unprepared, now they have been preparing for over 30 years, you can call them dead but they are still in a better position then they were in the last war.

Same, if you sleep in this type of room while standing in that spot then usually the guy spawns inside the bed and can't do anything, but you can kill him just fine.

>preparing for over 30 years
More like trying to rebuild, most of the provinces have succeeded and they are probably still suffering some effects from the Umbriel Crisis. They also had to send some of their Legions to Hammerfell. Then we have to take into account on how many Legions and military resources were spent on the Skyrim civil war and Dragon Crisis.

Yeah I don't see it happening for a few games, but I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see one starting to form. And yeah those people mostly just want it around because they've fought with and for it so many times they don't want to see it go. Personally as I see it, the third empire died with Martin, Mede's could of been interesting but they've done little with them aside from things in the novels, but they're really just a Pale imitation (not to say that every empire hasn't borrowed a bit from the one before it) of the third.

Not that I blame Mede for making the power grab, wasn't the Council making a shit show of it as well?

seceded*
Also, Cicero's journal is rather recent and it still describes Cyrodiil as being infested with bandits, corsairs and such

>2 previous identical ones
I get your point but the Alessian and Reman Empire were very different from the Third Empire (both Septim and Mede Dynasty)