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By rehashing what was done 20 years ago?

yes

What's the bottom game?

They're practically selling you Doom/Build wads or idTech 1 mods

Bombshell BUILD edition

Also, Dusk ain't gonna save shit. Painkiller was much better and it didn't do much. I appreciate the Blood atmosphere, though

t. finished the beta

Can't wait for Ion Maiden.

those games are still good, what's your point?
do you think you are entitled to get shit for free just because it's built on older technology?

Where did you get it?

give me a dl link bae

Apparently it's going to have alt. fire modes and different ammo types. God I hope it's good.

that's a big gun

4 U

id tech 1 mods are more fun and better made than Dusk.

What is that imaginary ass caliber?

>bae
the punishment is death

Are these going to be on gog.com?

Wait what? I thought Bombshell already had her own game?

Ion Maiden is a prequel to Bombshell.

Ooooh, who's making it?

Is Overload good? i've been thinking into buying it for so long. I loved Sublevel Zero but it was short in content.

38 speshul

Devs called Voidpoint, made up of various mappers in the Duke 3D community as well as guys responsible for eDuke32.

Ugh, a community effort. Is it safe?
Like no drama over assets and laziness?

That I don't know.

It sure looks swell. If this is really Build they've got some competent level designers.

Eh, well. I'll be cautiously optimistic about this, it's been a while since I've played a Build game.

Well it's an official game and all, not just something being made by a group of fans.

>shilling this blatantly

If I knew more about it, I'd fucking shill it. I desperately want more Build engine games.

Acording To Sup Forums yes.l mean Sup Forums bitch about 2016 Doom because it Isnt a reharsh of the classics...

selling me things i want is good

>idTech 1 mods

I wish.

I'd pay fullprice for a feature-length FPS with the quality of Arcane Dimensions

Yes It's fucking perfect
Doom 2016 didn't rehash anything

Sublevel Zero recently got a serious injection of content, judging from a news post I read. I haven't booted it up yet to check, but it sounds promising.

Please add Black Mesa to this.

That's exactly what nostalgiafriends want

That revolver looks fucking retarded. Why the fuck can devs never make a decent looking revolver?

>Painkiller tried to do that alre-
that 17 years ago.

>saves your genre

Well, the HD re-release is recent. Dusk has very barebones MP and the campaign mostly not up to par with Quake's best levels. It's still fun, but I don't think it's gonna do anything for "classic style" shooters

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>not up to par with Quake's best levels
That's a really fucking high bar to reach, you know.

Samefagging just to say, this is based on the Beta, and that I do know the game will be episodic in three parts and this is just the first episode

Well, if you're gonna re-release an "old-style" FPS in 2017, it better do some things better than the classics + its shittons of high quality mods. If it doesn't...Why does it even exist?

Nu-doom was fucking shit. It's casualized garbage, slow, tiny arena's, funnels, no open world, deep deep fucking cancer.

1/10 would not pirate again.

Ive only seen some streamerfag play a bit of the first episode and it looks alright, not up there with arcane dimensions or anything but some solid stuff, it also comes with a level editor (it's unity but specific editing tools) so i can see some good stuff coming it out of it.

>Ion Maiden
Looks promising
>Dusk
Will be shit
>Overload
what

>no open world
I hope you meant no non-linear stages otherwise you're a big faggot.

To invigorate the genre that's been essentially dead for the past 15-20 years and, hopefully, inspire other devs to make more. Not being better than the best isn't exactly a crime and even if Dusk was better than Quake, nobody would admit it.

...D-do I belong here guise?

No.

>Overload
>what
Modern Descent from former Descent devs. Feels pretty spot-on wit Descent 1 or 2.

I think doom1 and 2 was open world, as you were free to traverse the map any way you pleased (bar some keycards) but feel free to be all autistic about how you exactly name what we both understand.

So why does any fps exist after Doom?

>even if Dusk was better than Quake, nobody would admit it.
I guarantee you everyone would cream their pants. Quake had held a modding community for over 20 years based mostly on the quality of its SP. These guys would absolutely dabble in something that's their lifelong passion, only better

This is Sup Forums, user. Tastelessness has no fucking bounds here, you know that.

>doom1 and 2 was open world
That phrase is never used to describe Doom 1 or 2. The games are very linear, just sometimes you can take 2 paths to get to the keycard.

ok bro

There's a reason we have terms for specific things. When you start using them so loosely they lose their meaning. Doom is not open world. Duke was not open world. And so on. They're not linear in the sense that you just move down from one corridor to the next, like Halo or CoD, but 'open world' it certainly is not.

>Overload
>what
play this store.steampowered.com/app/450220/Overload_Playable_Teaser_20/
its a couple of months old build but you get the idea

Many new shooters added things Doom didn't do well, or couldn't do at all, like verticality.

A quality design always warrants a new game. Tribes was going for something completely different than anything before it, for example

It isn't fucking "open world." I'm sorry, it's just not.

The ForeverWar of cool or at least "Creative" looking weapons vs stuff that looks plausible. If you make alot of cool and plausible weapons normies would probably complain that all the weapons look about the same.

That stupid revolver is supposed to in some way become a stand-in signature for the main character.

One of the best things about the original Halo is how open it was, though.

I dont think anybody cares about an obscure naming convention other than no-life retards. I'm sorry open world games raped your dad, but it's not my problem. Doom 1 and doom 2 are open world to me, because you play in a world, that's open, badum tisj.

>Why the fuck can devs never make a decent looking revolver?
and the reload sound on this thing is fucking amazing

Are people seriously getting upset over ridiculous guns in an fps? God forbid we get interesting weapons like the BFG, Shrinker, or Wraithverge to play with.

by that logic farcry or crysis also isn't open world, what a dumb idea to define a term so loosely.

>open world
>obscure

Nigger, GRAND THEFT AUTO is open world. And that's a series a few people have heard of.

>Halo
>open
The first game, at least, is 90% corridors.

>Michael Jackson is death metal to me, I'm sorry if you disagree, that's just how I see it

You're giving him free (you)s, call him a dumbass and move on. Dumbass.

Are you fucking retarded? How did you come to that conclusion? Man, you people are the epitome of stupid.

>The first stage, at least, is 90% corridors.
Fixed.

I called him a nigger and moved on.

Oh please, you know as well as I do that most of the game takes place in tight rooms and literal copy-pasted hallways in the Library and the totem backtracking horseshit.

That's acceptable too. Now let's talk FPS guns, what's your favorite?
I like schofields from Serious Sam, and the Chaingun from Doom

calm your autism bro. Nobody was comparing doom to gta. Stop being mad jeez, I'm just saying doom is traditionally an open world game, because you play in an open world.
>false analogy
wew lad, looks like somebody still hasn't enjoyed their debating class lessons in high school!

It's literally people getting angry because someone else doesn't adhere to their made-up naming convention. Never change Sup Forums ;)

It's chaotic as shit, but the freezethrower is one of my all-time favorites.

>Dragonclaw
>Wraithverge
>Shrinker/Expander
>Lightbringer
>Pulse Rifle (Turok)

>DOOM is an RPG, because you play the ROLE of Doomguy!
Yeah, OK

I'm currently playing Hexen 2. I wish Heretic II was on Steam

Hexen 2 is really good, if a bit bland. On the hardest difficulty it's no joke, especially if you're using a melee class. Your shit needs to be on point

> another false analogy
maybe you should just wait for your debating class before you post any further ;)
Seriously though, you should take your autism pills. You seem to be having a problem keeping it together when you hear someone correctly state that doom is an open world game.

I really liked Heretic 2. I wonder how it holds up.

As someone whos never played Quake but loves Doom and Blood, should I give Arcane Dimensions a try? It seems awesome

>just started watching Batman and Harley
>very first sound effect you hear is from a police officer firing his gun
>it's the Doom pistol sound effect
Not important, just thought it was interesting.

Sup Forums was shitting on it pretty hard. Too bad, it looked like it had promise.

It holds up just fine. Controls are tight and the combat is still amazing, especially the melee combat.

Play regular Quake first, dude. AD is completely based on playing on and expanding Quake's ideas (to the point of some maps being Quoth-style remix maps), you won't appreciate it as much without the contrast.

No, it really doesn't. I know it's hip and all to hate Halo, but at release one of the most widely praised aspects of the game in reviews was the open level design being a nice change from the typical cramped hallways of the time, with the Library being an unpleasant exception.

Not him, but open ended levels=/=open world.
Two completely different things.

Well guess what? It's not open. Go play it again.

Do farcry and crysis have separate discrete levels with huge buttons that literally say "exit" and no way to get back to any of the previous levels?

but revolver in pic is .22 not .38

Same level designer as Duke Nukem Forever 2013. A god tier Duke 3D mod.

Also, the original Quake is incredible, and everyone should experience it. It's so fucking atmospheric.

How is it open when you literally close the way to a level once you hit the exit button? And how do they play in a world? Do you call levels worlds now? Even mario 3 didn't do that.

I guess anything can be a corridor if your sense of scale is off.

>Same level designer as Duke Nukem Forever 2013
Sign me the fuck up. I love that mod.