>friends go on about Overwatch for like a year >Hear on Sup Forums its a moba but I played a little Aeon of Strike and DOTA back in the day so I know its not for me >go over to my buddies place and he's playing it >its a fucking first person shooter
Have I literally been memed on for over a year?? Its a fucking first person shooter??
Yes it's an FPS, did you never once watch any gameplay vids?
Lincoln Phillips
peeps on Sup Forums like to smack talk because you got MOBA style mechanics, with barrier characters and heal characters and all sorts of shit where you barely aim and shoot very little to not at all.
Bentley Harris
People on Sup Forums don't know their vidya genres, they think having roles in a FPS makes it a MOBA, why not a fucking MMORPG while you're at it?
Aaron Russell
When you say heroes you get lumped in with moba.
Blake Taylor
According to Sup Forums's very own definition of what a MOBA is, pic related classifies as one. Never fucking listen to Sup Forums.
>DURR IT'S GOT HEROES >IT'S GOT CLASSES YOU CAN ONLY UNLOCK BY GRINDING KILLS PER MATCH >IT'S GOT CAPTURE POINTS >IT'S GOT BOTS >EACH CLASS HAS THEIR OWN UNIQUE ABILITIES >SHITTY FUCKING MOBA HURRRR
Ryder Taylor
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Daniel Smith
Do you understand now why everyone always says Sup Forums is the worst board and you should never take anything in here seriously?
Lincoln Sanchez
op are you meming or just retarded
Charles Butler
It got a fat hooker How is that not a MOBA?
Josiah Taylor
>Any character with an enemy displacement ability makes a game a MOBA Guys, any game with rocket launcher knockback is a MOBA.
Ethan Peterson
No arena.
William Rodriguez
How are CPs not arena?
>any game with rocket launcher knockback is a MOBA no, these are class based FPS
Dominic Clark
>How are CPs not arena? I'm just kidding, it's fucking dumb calling a fps a MOBA just because it has classes. MOBA is a fucking dumb term in the first place, it's Riot who made it up so people would stop calling League of Legends a DOTA, but the definition of MOBA encompasses so much stuff that it doesn't make any sense to even use it to describe a genre.
Arena shooter, Class based FPS, hell even Hero shooter (which is just a fancy name for Class based FPS) these are better terms to describe a game.
Angel Reed
Although a difference between class based FPS and hero FPS is crystalising.
Class based FPS the identity of characters position is more important than his name, which he often doesn't have. Also they can get a variety of weapons which fulfil different functions, whereas hero based FPS simpy would introduce a new hero Medic does the healing, Engineer build building and so on.
Hero based FPS on the other hand don't have class designations. They go straight "His name is Buck, he like to fuck" kinda description. You have no idea what Bucks initial job is. Does he build? Does he heal? Is he fast? Does he pack heavy gear? Doesn't matter, he's Buck. Got alternative weapons which Buck could technically use? Meet Buck's long lost twin, who somehow has the same preference in weapons: Huck.
And I know MOBA is a retarded term. Even ironical names such as ASSFAGGOTS or FARTS fit the description better. MOBA was just Riots pathetic attempt to monopolise and copyright the genre.
Jonathan Scott
>ultra slow ttk that forces poeples to gank or pick the exaxt counter to a hero to get a kill >ultimates >most of the killing is done using said smilies >linear map design >no customization beyond cosmetics >literal tank/dps/ healer categories of heroes >wall hacks, auto aim guns and ohk abilities up the ass so any retards can get a kill easily tell me how it's not a moba
Gavin Parker
>Multiplayer >Online >Battle >Arena Tell me again how it isn't a moba
Brandon Moore
I don't know why people would say that, from the first gameplay videos the closest game to it was TF2, which was always described as an FPS.
Gabriel Stewart
Yeah it's first person and you shoot guns but that all it's got going for it in the shooter department
Zachary Smith
It´s not a moba because it´s not dead.
Isaac White
MOBA =/= Diablo style ARPG gameplay.
Chase Sanders
technically true at the base meaning of the words but in practice it's a different genre with lots of similarities
Luis Collins
Mmos have classes. OW has heroes split into roles Dumbshit.
Jason Wright
Still waiting for Mackenzie
Caleb Richardson
It's already more dead than dota 2 and lol
Isaac Anderson
Mobas are hero arenas. Besides dota there were hundreds of these customs maps in Warcraft 3. It doesn't matter what the camera perspective is you underage tards.
Jordan Ramirez
>Sup Forums's very own definition No you're getting meme'd by a few retards. The same ones who classify MOBAs as MMOs.
Overwatch is a hero shooter. It didn't have a name outside of just 'FPS' because there really was just mainly TF2
Caleb Gonzalez
>believing Sup Forums >ever nigga...
Robert Adams
>literal 6 year olds come on and don't stfu >gamersluts come on and don't stfu
this is why i mute everyone
David Taylor
It was more closer to UT. That is untill you realised the player characters had unique attacks then it was more like Dota. The only thing like Tf2 was Torbjorn.
Colton Russell
Which is why they tend to call it ASSFAGGOTS as MOBA is too wide of a term for what it actually is as every FPS would also be a MOBA, or racing game where you can attack others or literally anything where you battle online.
Mariokart is a MOBA by your definition here.
We all should know what a MOBA actually fucking is, and anyone arguing the point you are is just playing devil's advocate or is actually mentally retarded, and considering it's the shittiest attempt at a troll, you should give it up.
Juan Cook
>The only thing like TF2 was Torbjorn
>Almost every OW release character can be paralleled to a TF2 cahracter ????
Yeah, no, it's primarily an FPS where your archetypes are characters or 'heroes' whatever term you decide per game.
Brandon Diaz
I know this is fucking bait but its deathmatch fps. Everyone is equal in the game. Mobas are inherently retarded because everyone has a unique hero. They also focus on objectives. Like destroying a base or capturing something.
Brody Cook
You mean every Overwatch character is a personification of a UT or quake weapon. Turrets existed before tf2 kiddo. Like to remind you tf2 autists that Tf2 is a rip off of tf1 which is a quake mod.
Jack Martin
just what we need more dps characters for these drooling retards to pick
Carson Nelson
Wow, no shit, but the difference here is that they're using 'heroes' or 'characters' and not 'weapons', hence: More akin to TF2, not UT.
Easton Stewart
>MMOs have classes That are 99% of the time have a concrete role that's explained to you the moment you pick them. There's no gameplay difference whatsoever, and calling them "heroes" when there's no secondary characters for them to be heroes to is dumb as fuck Blizzard bullshit.
Grayson Gray
>A sequel is a rip-off fucking what
Aiden Mitchell
Kinda like dota2 is a rip off of dota
Joseph Ward
> Its a fucking first person shooter??
It's a dying mediocre game in a first place, why would you care?
It was only interesting when it was hyped, but now it's really just another reskinned TF2 for 40$
Wyatt Carter
Pretty much every other game existing is more dead than them if you think about it.
Jeremiah Cook
>tell me how it's not a moba
>It's in first-person >It's a shooter
There you go.
Hunter King
>It's dying guys! >Makes million view videos on youtube. >Getting constant events with no delay >Extremely popular in cosplay, artwork, and parody You might as well say Star Wars is fucking dying you loser.
Daniel Walker
It's not really 'dead' in terms of momentary numbers, but it's dropping like hell since the hype for it died. It's 'dead' in a sense that it failed to become League of Legends 2.0 like Blizzard expected, and rather turned out to be a mere flavor of the year.
It would have a chance to catch a second breath if it went F2P but we all know Blizzard doesn't go F2P, hence the 'dead', aka not interesting enough to have a chance to progress any further.
Owen Moore
The thing is MOBAs just copy mechanics from all kinds of games, a lot of them are not strange for say fighting games either.
>never played all the classic firstperson/3rd person rts games, hero avatars, base building etc Genres aren't really defined by camera perspective if you think this you are just not very experienced with games.
Anthony Thomas
DotA 2 and LoL are like most of what online gamers are playing right now.
OW has more people than FFXIV, FFXIV, BDO and other MMOS are fucking deadski.
Paladins is even beating a lot of games.
OW is not dying in the grandscheme of things but Dota 2, LoL and PUBG are eating up most of the marketright now.
Think about how much time you get out of LEARNING how to play dota 2/lol/poe properly, thousands of hours easily before it gets boring. Frustrating but fun times however for something like 500 hours (first moba) learning curve to 'git gud', you can easily pull out 5,000+ hours from the game and most of htem are 'free'.
Compare this to OW with such a limited roster, or MMOs which these days are just theme park shit you breeze through in under 6months, and you can see why this is the case.
Meme shifting also lets you enjoy certain characters at a time, although I fucking hate meme shifting myself.
Jace Bailey
>salty Sup Forums tards have to call it flavor of the year instead of overmeme now
Hudson Mitchell
>No actual numbers >Heroes of the Storm higher than Smite >World of Warcraft high on the list without Maple Story trailing right behind it.
This list was written by running around to look at big company names and attempting to solicit a donation from them to get on the list.
P.S. They'll never get numbers because no one shares their numbers because almost everyone's numbers are shit.
Steam made LawBreakers out to be good, if you look on Steamcharts that shit is worse than Battleborn was on release, fucking trash. No one posts actual numbers, NO ONE, and when you see them you'll see how sad the industry really is.
Camden Cook
Overwatch is insanely shilled it had more public stunts and social media shilling then many movies. People seemed to treat it like a big blockbuster film and every event and hero up until Sombra was generating huge hype. I don't think its possibly to shill something for a year before people get sick of it.
Kayden Nguyen
blizzard fans are mentally ill more so than fans of any other corporation