Help NPC with quest in RPG

>help NPC with quest in RPG
>deny the reward like a true hero
>there's no, even better, secondary reward

>Spend a large amount of money to buy a raffle ticket on a festival at a RPG
>There's an actual chance of you losing it

>there's no, even better, secondary reward
Shame on you for even wanting one. Some hero you are.
It's called a raffle for a reason.

>help npc with first quest
>receive a good weapon
>do second part of the quest
>receive another weapon
>its worse than what he gave me earlier

>Pillage the dude's spot for the quest-giver
>Give hime the money, and only get a third of it back
>Literally no other reward for it
I don't know why you'd ever leave in that quest.

>Quest is built up to be difficult
>Go away to build up strength
>Complete quest
>Reward is no longer useful

You can't expect him to give you all of his good weapons. He has to save some for the next schmuck that comes along to run his errands.

>Quest is trying to force you to like a god
>God is still acting like a evil duchebag
>Gets mad when I help the another evil dude

Here Zamorak

I think that it's retarded when games do this. "Oh hey you were so nice to decline a reward so here you go, I can at least give you my grandpa's butter knife which just so happens to be the Mythic Sword". It's metagaming most of the time and lends itself to most RPGs being painfully leaned towards Good paths. Bioware suffers from it the most:
>Good: I will save your kitty and accept no reward! Oh, you've got one for me anyway. Oh, it's an ancient scroll of protection from undead that you stole from your necromancer dad. How neat.
>Neutral: I will help ya, but for your lunch money. Hell yeah bitch, here's your cat, give me your 5 gold pieces.
>Evil: I will eat the cat in front of you for no reason but the evul lulz, and then kill you. Huh, you aren't carrying the Good reward scroll on you when you're killed, weird.

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Why are they fighting, aren't they supposed to be friends? What the hell is going on?

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pee pee ?
poo poo !

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It's the story arc where wojak finally had enough of pepe's poopoo peepee hijinks.

True altruism cannot exist.

>Inb4 muh religion

You do it for Gods acceptance.

I don't know why but for some reason I fucking love these.

These are always so fucked up that I cannot help but find them funny.

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>NPC pays me to do some shit
>go to finish quest
>can you maybe do that again? I will reward you again ofc
>dialogue options include "yes but at a higher price", click it
>I-I don't know about this, how higher?
>options are "changed my mind", "a bit higher" and "a LOT higher", choose 3rd one
>what? no I can't give you this much, I'll pass
>(persuasion)you know I'm the best man for this kind of job and I've already proved it once. I doubt that you can find anyone else as experienced and willing as I am
>o-okay, I guess I can give you the amount you want, don't ask for more because I literally have nothing else left to give you
>deal

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Lemme guess, The (((Witcher))) 3?

>Be NPC
>Some autist hero comes up to me
>Has my cat
>"I-it's c-cool if you d-don't want t-to reward me"
>Fair enough, take my cat
>Throws an autistic shitfit for not giving him a reward anyway

>Quests have a finite time before some other adventurer solves it.
>Quests which are too difficult for ordinary adventurers have the belongings of previous dead adventurers who failed the quest added to its reward.
>If a quest isn't solved before some time it fails automatically and the questgiver might disappear, dying while trying to solve it himself.
>You may be refused to take on a quest because there is a workers guild of adventurers who have strong armed the market and you don't have a license.
>Questgiver refuses to reward you because you are not protected by the laws of the adventurer guild
>Quest was actually a plot to lure you off to some far away place while bandits loot and pillage the villages.
>Quest reward was stolen while you were questing
>Questgiver hired multiple adventurers and you have to compete with them.

Close. 2nd one.

>final boss wanted to destroy the world
>have the chance to kill him
>no user, stop! If you kill him you'll be just like him

>NPC gives you a quest to kill yourself
>Reward is New Game+
>NPC will comment on you being back next time you see him.

>NPC fucked up
>he asks you to help him
>say no

>>Give hime the money, and only get a third of it back
>>Literally no other reward for it
I don't know why they did this for GTA 5 other than to fuck over moralfags. But why do that when they can get their moralfaggotry through Micheal?

Ok this is interesting. If you were given the opportunity to Load Game by a god, essentially resetting the entire universe, including you, to some specified time, but not knowing if determinism is real, would you do it? What if instead, you were give New Game+, retaining all your memories but being born in completely different circumstances.

>Kill thief
>Keep money for yourself

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it's theoretically possible to take actions that give you no type of gain in any way.

What quest?

>kill thief
>keep money for yourself
>go back to kill the victim too
DAMAGED

>no user, stop! If you kill him you'll be just like him
>Kill him anyway
>You collapse to the ground
>user, no! Your destinies are intertwined! If he dies, you'll be just like him...
>...dead
>You die

>random fuck on the street asks me for help to do some dumb meaningless shit
>has nothing to do with the story at all
>ask him for a reward
>he gets offended and starts acting like a bitch for the remainder of the quest

Best friends are ones that can fight and still be friends.

I wouldn't take the New Game+ because i might be born a nigger

Usually the "decline reward" reward is some kind increase in relationship.

I always liked the balance is Mount and Blade because it usually a trade off between short term financial gain (Which can be pretty important early on) and long terms benefits from honor and village/lord relations.

>Finish all of the side quests in the starting town
>Go out in to the world over leveled and stomp eveything

big heist or something stupid sheit. You steal the stone of jas

Even worse:
>its the same weapon type as the first one just slightly better
>it looks fuckin dumb compared to the other

>good things happen to good people :)
>make love go around

>Beating the postgame secret boss gives you the best sword in the game
>There are no battles left to use it on besides random encounters

>NPC forced to work with you
>If you bruise his ego even once he plots against you the moment he gets the chance

I'm sorry about your mental damage, user.

But if you're reborn as a nigger you can false flag as a nigger (from being originally white) while actually being a nigger in color!
Take them down from the inside, you feel me?

Does it make you a good person if you do it expecting a reward?
Kinda like when betafags get rejected and play the whole "huh but I was nice to you :( " card

fuck dead money

Just take the reward, mongo. Only fools work for free.

its called being an adult kid

There's no such thing a selfless good deed.

>Do something nice for someone
>That shouldn't make them like you more

I'm sorry you're so damaged.

>Do quest
>Friendly person dies
>Mediocre rewards
>There is actually a way to save friendly person, leading to massive rewards
>You must have dumped your points earlier on the game's equivalent of speech

>save town from utter anhiliation
>shopkeeper doesn't even give you a discount

>t. adult
BING1 BING! 1UP WAHOO

Shit's getting deep on Sup Forums.

I helped a little dog today from not being crushed by a car, why was that selfish?

If being nice was as profitable as being bad everyone would be nice OP.

A good person does something and expects nothing in return.

when you consider for a moment what kind of quest/mission you do and the fact that things like experience/leveling up are just part of the game mechanics, sometimes its pretty retarded to say "hurr hurr dont need a reward"

but I like helping them :(

>tfw altruistic in a selfish world
Even talking about it makes me feel like a fucking tool but how do you relay thoughts and communicate ideals otherwise

Do you feel good about it?
If so, then yes.

As long as I am sure to keep my memories, I would risk it.
Losing my memories though would be like being someone else entirely. It would lose the purpose.

I think the point is that you always gain something on some level or another.

For example, by saving that dog, you've saved yourself the guilt of knowing that you didn't later.

No, because I couldn't accomplish that from the severe hit to my INT I would receive

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>enemies don't respawn
>you have nothing to use the sword on but weak stragglers you missed

selfish deeds that have positive effects on others aren't bad
selfish is never universally bad or immoral

>Help NPC
>Bad guys tell you to stop helping out
>Offer something as a bribe
>Decline thinking you'll probably be able to get it in some way anyway
>You can't
>And the quest reward is shit
>You're now forever gimped
>In a MMO

for one, my life is probably going to be longer than 1 day
never said anything about morals
don't put words in my mouth

Not my personal blog but I have been to Sri Lanka a while ago and those guys are heavy on budhism and karma - right? But what I learned is that they expect an instant gratification or reward, like they'll help you or guide you through the forest and then they immediately ask you to pay up, they are supposed to be spiritually enlightened with the whole karma concept but apparently not.
Anyway, you reminded me of them OP.

Of course there is. Giving up your life is pretty selfless.

>If you kill him you'll be just like him
This is the trope I hate the most in any storytelling media. It's so nonsensical and forced. Holy shit.
No, killing a terrorist that was going to kill hundreds of innocents doesn't make you as bad as him. It makes you a fucking hero.

>if you kill me you'll be just like me!
>i guess you're right
>BANG

weird how that works isn't it
but know this, all actions you take will be for your own gain even if that gain doesn't seem so apparent. since you do not actually make decisions, but only rationalize actions you take.

Yeah evil paths are fucking stupid in games lately. I don't want to be a psychopath cannibal I wanna be an smart evil that doesn't gets shit and not care about the repercussions for others

probably why I keep getting nobodies in Pillars of Eternity who come up asking for cash. I always give them cash. They could buy a farm with the amount of cash they get given for nothing.

>kill an important person in town that works with shopkeeper
>tell shopkeeper you killed that person
>make a joke about killing that person
>still keep discount

but the person you replied to asked if it made you a good person or not, that's morals

i think you don't know a thing about the place you went to

>character immediately starts drinking the blood of the innocent from infant skulls and enslaving the world because you were a little pragmatic or selfish a ttimes
>you have no control over this

this shit really rustles my jimbobs

I helped a coworker pack their stuff to move and I didn't feel good.

Probably, that's one of the reasons I went there.

I can guarantee you that was still done for peace of mind

you earned their appreciation

>weird how that works isn't it
Very. Sometimes self-awareness can be too much.
>all actions you take will be for your own gain
Sometimes I question my own actions for example: I'll wait on people or in in situations where I could just leave or decide otherwise, and I don't gain much other than mild irritation depending on how much time I've potentially wasted. This is a poor example though and I'm rambling. I just put other people before myself which is probably why I do that type of shit.
>you do not actually make decisions
tfw free will doesn't exist

Name one game

I wish more games would do this. It would make playing a moral fag a more difficult and interesting.

Shadowrun games are the only games that I can think of that do this. There's a few times in both Hong Kong and Dragonfall where taking the moral high ground gives you little to no reward or puts you in a more difficult situation.

Why the fuck do spoilers randomly decide to not work ree

>since you do not actually make decisions, but only rationalize actions you take.
That's such an exaggeration. It's just that you often make decisions on a whim or emotionally as opposed to rationally, the rationalization comes in later.

When I was a kid there was two things I noticed about moralfag vs evil options

1. Evil option had more physical rewards, like money or loot. Good option was usually just XP.

2. The good option was usually more difficult. The evil one let you weaken the enemy before you fought or avoid a fight with an extremely powerful enemy.

These days there's no real difference.

It's not even lately, he's talking about Baldirs gate 1. There's also a lawful evil dwarf characterized by his love of money who will leave the party if you're too good even though being good almost always gets you more money.

>get weapon early in game from easy quest
>weapon earned from quest later in game is significantly weaker

Why did you save the dog? Think hard and you will find the answer to your query.

>tfw the evil option is the hardest path in the game because everyone else turns against you

If he did it for the sole reason of helping the dog it isn't selfish. Sure you'll feel good about it but that wasn't the intent. Just because you get rewarded, no matter how insignificant, it isn't selfish based on the intent of the action

I returned a wallet