Why do you want every video game character to be 10/10 models? Why can't some characters be average or just ugly without it being part of the plot?
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I like cute girls
Because it's a videogame, not a movie.
Going out of your way to add so many natural details to make a character uglier is less time spend on gameplay and story. It also require more attention spend to the animation which can in turn leads to input lag and reduced gameplay possibilities in some cases.
It's especially worse for studios who use actor scanning technologies and spend so much cash just to have the latest hip hollowood actor in the game, it's marketing that adds nothing substantial to the game.
Its the same reason all the betas play as chicks "why not look at a girl butt while I play" because not everything is meant to get their dicks hard but theyre too beta to not do it
It takes as much effort to model a good looking girl, and I'd rather have something that is straight up better and takes as much work.
because i have to look at them for 20+ hours?
Found him
Because then I might as well play as a guy. There's no point in playing as a female unless she's attractive, and or half nude.
Real problem is why do they have to put shitty actors in vidya instead of sticking to the actual style/character design.
I mean shit, I would have play Horizon if it looked like pic related. So sick and tired of that because you have to pander to casual and SJW who want their TV show-tier aesthetic in video-games.
If I wanted to see average/ugly people I'd go outside or look in a mirror.
Too many people play games with their dicks and cute girls distract them from the fact that most of the western games they like are trash. Remove the cute girls and now they're left with the reality that they have shit taste and nobody likes that so instead of playing better games they bitch about not wanting to fuck the characters.
Bring her back
It's not fucking fair
Her face is fine in-game, but her hair is really bad
Quit being pathetic
if you model a table in 3d would you make it crooked on purpose to make a point? no, you'd make the best looking table you can. Same with human models, you should make them as beautiful as possible or people would think you you're bad at 3d crafting.
What the fuck are you even saying dude
>Going out of your way to add so many natural details to make a character uglier is less time spend on gameplay and story.
You assume that the character models were beautiful in the first place. I would argue it would take more time refining beautiful traits out of a default model.
It also require more attention spend to the animation which can in turn leads to input lag and reduced gameplay possibilities in some cases.
How does a character's face or body aesthetic change gameplay? If It's a fat character doing action scenes maybe it would be slightly trickier for animators, but I would hope that they can use their talent to overcome.
It's especially worse for studios who use actor scanning technologies and spend so much cash just to have the latest hip hollowood actor in the game, it's marketing that adds nothing substantial to the game.
What does that have to do with anything?
Go to your favorite detailed character creator game and try to make a good looking person. Make sure you change all default values since the defaults are usually attractive. I promise you you'll make an average looker before you make a stunning one, especially for men.
Not everyone plays games to escape their virgin realities. As long as they are doing something badass it's fine.
Quit pretending you care about videogames.
Why make them purposefully unattractive?
Whatshername in Horizon is ugly. Her face shape is weird and tall/ovalish. Huge man cut jaw. Her eyes/nose/mouth are all pretty close together which gives her too much "headspace"/skin for the rest of her face. Pretty big ears but lots of people have bigger ears so whatever. Ugly, disgusting, more than likely unwashed and unkempt hair. 5head. Good body overall though. Etc.
She's is purposefully unattractive. There is no reason to go out of your way to make your characters unattractive (another good example is Sara from ME:Andromeda). You don't need characters who are all 10/10, but you don't need characters who are 0/10 as well. Why make a character a 3/10? Why not just a 5/10? Or a 7/10? What good does it do to make them ugly?
>I would argue it would take more time refining beautiful traits out of a default model.
Plain wrong. I do character modeling and I assure you it takes far more time and talent to make naturally and realistically uglier characters.
>cute girls distract them from the fact that most of the western games they like are trash.
That's Japan that put cute girls in everything because their games would be pure trash if you'd play them without something to give you a boner.
>you disagree with my opinion, therefore you don't care about video games
>as long as they are doing something badass its fine
Hello Randy Pitchford.
Please fuck off, its not okay to play as a female ever if she's not attractive.
I mean she's a 6/10 I would cum in her if we needed to reproduce badly in an unpopulated post-apocalyptic world but otherwise mehhhh.
>How does a character's face or body aesthetic change gameplay
The more realistic your model is, the more uncanny valley becomes a problem.
The more polys you use to simulate those ugly details, the more difficult skinning becomes which lead to trickier and more time consuming animation rig set up, which lead to animation restrictions easily starting to appear, which leads to gameplay ideas being cut.
>What does that have to do with anything?
Oh you're retarded and don't understand the first thing about game development and general production, my bad.
What am I supposed to get a boner from in Bloodborne or Kingdom Hearts
You have no opinion, you're nothing. You don't care after all.
BH: The doll, the female hunter you can create to your liking, the other female hunters in game (like Maria, etc)
KH: Kairi
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>6
You're reaching user. 6 is above average.
You forgot Amelia
Will Sup Forums ever stop shitting itself over this fucking game?
Why do you want every video game character to be UGY? Why can't some characters be beautiful without it being part of the patriarchy?
None of those have boner bait features though unless you force it on your hunter
Kairi looks 12 even after like 4 years have passed in the series.
Why give a fuck in the first place? If you find a character appealing, then great, good for you, but actually dismissing whole characters, and even games because you find the MC ugly (and were NOT refering just to Horizon) is the pinnacle of shallowness and idiocy.
I don't find Mario atractive, Bayonetta's body creeps me out, and Kratos is activelly ugly. Shouldn't I play those games because they do nothing to my dick?
Though I think the problem is now people assume SJW warriors want ugly characters, and overblown everything not because they mind ugliness, but because MUH SJW REEEE.
>Why can't some characters be average or just ugly without it being part of the plot?
If I want to see average or ugly girls I'll turn on my TV, go outside, or watch a movie. Vidya, and by extension the 3D or 2D world, enables us to create people who have none of the flaws you get in the real world, none of the ugliness so why replicate imperfection when you could just create perfection?
Pffffhahaha sorry I'm not some sperg that bitches if I'm not playing as a model. Its called dignity? Try it some time you may even feel like a man for once
This really. I just like having something pleasing to look at if I'm going to be playing for so many hours.
It's the thought process behind making her ugly that's the problem. I'm really tired of Sony first parties and their SJW shit.
I'm not arguing that you should or shouldn't play a game based on attraction to characters (the 387599975 poster). I'm just arguing that there is no need to make a character ugly.
A character doesn't need to be a 10/10 to be a good design. But the MC of Horizon is fucking ugly for no reason, and so are most of the other characters in the game. It just is weird. Why make the that way? What could it possibly serve to not make them normal/attractive? What could it possibly serve to make them ugly? Especially because the design of the MC used to be much better.
Creating a believable ugly character is not the same as creatong a bad 3D model.
Aloy isn't treated as a beauty queen in the game. However she isn't a complete uggo either. You can think she's ugly and that's fine, some people think she's attractive. I think that is about as 5/10 as you can get.
If thats true then I have a few questions . Do you have a standard of video game beauty? For example let's say you compare all your models to Lara Croft. Do they look like her do do you try to switch up or mix up beautiful traits to see how far from her you can get while remaining attractive. Or do you just follow the simple slim body, long hair, pretty eyes, average sized face parts.
How hard is it to create attractive men compared to females? How about ugly ones?
If you modeled old or fat people, would you still try to make them attractive?
I just don't want devs to be afraid of challenging the law of the land. It's not about SJW it's about design choice.
Beeeeetttttaaaaaa
Because humans don't like ugly people, unless they're ugly too, in which case they relate to them.
But if you want to make a super-hero or whatever, they can't be ugly, unless they're evil or they're meant to be monsters.
Why would I care about her face when I'm gonna be looking at her birthing hips the whole game?
>Why can't some characters be average or just ugly without it being part of the plot?
Because then 90% of Sup Forums can't fucking waifu them.
Look at all the 'her game' or whatever threads. All of them are full of desperate and lonely people discussing how CUTE the shitty waifubait is. Any discussion about actual character or personality very quickly dies after it dawns on them that most of the time the character is just a hollow, one-dimensional cutout that they honestly only like because of their looks. Which is fine, but they don't want to admit that, so it's back to shitposting and circlejerking.
It's because Sup Forums has no artistic interest in video games. If you honestly give a shit about the attractiveness of a character, and refuse to play it because it doesn't appeal to your sense of beauty, then you are an idiot, and there is no denying this. You put your sexuality at the forefront of your interest in creativity, and lack real world experience to judge people on their character, rather than outward experience. You shouldn't bother to make threads like these anymore OP. You have to realize most people, especially on Sup Forums and Sup Forums as a whole, are idiots and have little interest in the artistic endeavors they so vehemently post about.
Also this
Same reason we dont like watching swine beasts, neckbeards, and SJWs in the latest Marvel movie.
Because if dev cant make 10/10 looking character. how can they make good game
damn this is nice
I would argue that is to add a bit more of realism. Like other anons are saying, you find already normal/ugly people inside. Actually 10/10 people are rare, and so they might add a few defects to make her more relatable, like crocked teeth and such.
Thoughin this case I argue with you. She's essentialy a caveman living in the wilderness without sunscreen, makeup, bodycare products, soap, toothpaste and such. If realism was the thing they were aiming, she should be WAAAY uglier.
The only female character I can think it was made to actually be ugly would be Rachel from Binary Domain, and that somehow made me like her a bit. BD was a good game and Charlie made my dick hard as diamonds, though that's hardly relevant now.
>Why do you want every video game character to be 10/10 models?
I don't, but at least a few of them should be. Western developers deliberately haven't made an attractive female protagonist in years, which is the main problem.
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Slightly offtopic question but related to how sex is handled worldwide:
Why americans are known worldwide to be the most prudish christina puritans ready to censor every inch of skin in every media and blame Japan to be perverted when statiscally speaking their country is the one who PRODUCES and CONSUME the biggest amount of pornography?
>Christina
Meant to say "christian", i hope no ameriburger gets triggered.
Look up the owners of porn studios and you'll notice they are part of a different religion that isn't christianity.
How could they fuck this up so bad?
I want my women to not be men in drag.
Fantasy setting, character look ugly. just why.
and a different race
Because that disgusting minge prevented me from playing the game.
You just posted a non-10/10.
I like cute girls so I want to see them more often, same reason you don't see 'ugly regular dudes' as the MC.
Speak for yourself, fuckboi
>tfw no Aloy gf
>Why americans are known worldwide to be the most prudish christina puritans ready to censor every inch of skin in every media
they're not?
If I want to see ugly people I can look out of window.
Yes they are
To think of all this effort that went into the model when she was a couple of strokes away from not looking like a downie.
To me, immersion is everything. If I was modelling a table, I'd want to make it look like it belonged in the world. This would include scuffing and other imperfections if it was anything other than factory new, especially if it was handmade by some peasant.
Obviously, that's the ideal; in the real world, you can't spend all your time designing incidental assets. But I'd definitely put in the development time to make my main character fit the world.
The ugly protag isn't the problem, the boring as fuck game is.
"the americans" "the entire or a massive majority of the american population" is according to you in favor of concealing womens bodies. Is that what you're claiming?
your edit looks like a downie, downie
We've always ridiculed america for their prudiness
en.wikipedia.org
to be fair when a character seems like a model or extra ordinary you don't forget that character right away.
If a character who's only superpower is being a woman or ugly, it kinda does not make any sense onto why I should care.
And we have always ridiculed you for...wait we don't even know or care if your country exists.
Elf with Bow
Orc with Bow
>kissless virgins obsessed with 2d waifus STILL having autistic shitfits whenever they're confronted with an image of Aloy
Aloy's face is really pretty from the side. The hairstyle is the problem, her ears stick out too much and it looks bad with that fivehead.
Seeing great, beautiful things makes me happier than seeing mediocre things like when I look in the mirror.
she looks very young, this will trigger the female gamer audience who are in their 30s
Get your chromosomes checked.
how about a good game instead
easy, they can't make her pretty or else girl gamers will throw a hissy fit
>Game has a SINGLE female or minority character
>Sup Forums: FUCKING SJW FFEMINAZI FAGGOTS FUCK OFF I HOPE YOU ALLGET RAPED REEEEEE
>Horizon Zero Dawn features a Katniss Everdeen clone protagonist who lives in a matriarchal society in a post disaster world which was saved because an evil white man stole a muslim scientists peace robots
>Sup Forums: I see nothing wrong here
>who do people like attractive people?
Real big mistery there chief. Call me up when you figure it out, i wanna hear it.
You obviously haven't played it. Aloy hates the matriarchal Nora society and women. She was raised alone by a man and only loved him and fits in better in the Carja and Banuk societies, which is why she is happy as fuck to leave her shitty homeland.
Aloy is totally cute though! she just has retarded hair and could use some bangs.. Can't wait for November!
Agreed. The hairstyle is shit and entirely the problem.
>realism
Because Americans are born hypocrites. Just look at the leftists who are currently pushing sex negative attitudes. A bunch of ugly women and emasculated men who's entire moral compass is based on censoring what the "other side" likes, while they they themselves are not beholden to those same morality based rules.
Pretty sure the matriarch is painted as unsympathetic assholes and only cares when it's convenient for them, with only two or three people who aren't complete dicks. But I guess context doesn't matter.
What in the goddamn fuck are you going on about?
You gay?
Sup Forums cried an ocean of tears over HZD, what the hell are you talking about?
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>why can't some characters be average or just ugly without it being part of the plot?
Please treat me well.
It's okay because he's a man
Aloy is cute though. It's hilarious how a bunch of literal virgins call her a 5/10.
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Ooooh you're having fun, do you ?
DO YOU ?
>Why do you want every video game character to be 10/10 models? Why can't some characters be average or just ugly without it being part of the plot?
You don't play western made games, I take it?
Why do you want every video game to be exciting, have an interesting plot or good gameplay? Why can't some games be boring, have a shit story or dreadful gameplay?
The answer is simple, because video games don't naturally exist, they are manmade. Why would you make something that's average when you can make something that's above average? Let's say you have a character with an interesting backstory that doesn't reference his looks in any way. If you make the character ugly then he's simply inferior to the exact same character if he'd be not ugly.
*tips fedora*