Announce paid mods

>announce paid mods
>massive fucking backlash so it gets canceled
>announce creation club paid mods
>nothing

How the fuck did they get away with this?

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People blamed Valve instead for some reason. Bethesda must have been thrilled.

People will still mad but now, nobody cares about the game anymore so why does it matter anyways?

Also Todd is a genius.

Timing

People still cared about the games when it was first announced? I doubt it. Plus this doesn't just affect Skyrim/Fallout 4. All of their games will have this paid mods shit.

Because Bethesda actually releases single player games on a regular basis.

people gave up
the corporations are too strong
time to pay up, goyim

Where is creaction club?
They said this summer but it's almost over and we haven't heard a word from bethesda about it

Honestly this shit is fucking heartbreaking. I actually really enjoy Bethesda games, yes even Skyrim, after I get them all modded up. But this basically ruins it for me. I don't want to spend fucking $60 on a game just to have to spend another $30 to get all the mods I want.

What matters? There's no mod in the world that will make FO4 good.

It's unlisted atm but you can actually buy creation club currency through steam. Some user posted the link last night.

people are stupid
the only problem with paid mods was that the split for creators was too low

are you sure its "nothing", or is it that people forgot about it entirely and it isnt even used anymore?

>nothing

Wasn't the Youtube video with this reveal inundated with negative comments and dislikes?

one is on steam
the other isn't

I didn't even bother to mod FO4, since there's been nothing I've wanted to add to the game. New Vegas had some awesome scripted missions like the bounty hunter ones.

>dwarven mudcrab

Won't this kill the modding communities for other games? Or at the very least make other games that allow mods implement something similar?

From the website itself:

>Is Creation Club paid mods?
>No. Mods will remain a free and open system where anyone can create and share what they’d like. Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club, it must all be original content. Most of the Creation Club content is created internally, some with external partners who have worked on our games, and some by external Creators. All the content is approved, curated, and taken through the full internal dev cycle; including localization, polishing, and testing. This also guarantees that all content works together. We’ve looked at many ways to do “paid mods”, and the problems outweigh the benefits. We’ve encountered many of those issues before. But, there’s a constant demand from our fans to add more official high quality content to our games, and while we are able to create a lot of it, we think many in our community have the talent to work directly with us and create some amazing new things.

Because the modding community is half dead now. A lot of this community is active because of TES. Skyrim : SE did nothing good about this since it splitted the community even more (two different games on nexus).
TES used to bring a lot of life to modding, but now Skyrim is starting to get fucking old, Beth prefer to make new useless versions of this game instead of communicating about the sequel. Nobody gives a fuck about paid mods because it's a dead community.

Nobody but the most retarded even use Bethesda's launchpad anyway.

I can understand the logic behind it this time and that's why I support it

First of all the only people this will ever appeal to will be console players, or lazy people with prebuilt PC's or shitty laptops. Said people play gaming because it's a convenient, easy way to waste time, not because of investment in the hobby necessarily

They want to turn the thing on, know it will work, and use it without any hassle.

These mods are made together with Beth so they have bug testing and all sorts of polish, achievement friendly, won't break saves, etc. You don't have to install TES5 edit, Wyre Bash, Mod Organizer, SKSE, etc. when you can just install a mod that Bethesda has personally guaranteed will work with the game.

Personally I like fucking about with TES5 edit and the like but a lot of people don't. If I were a little lazier and had only a console I'd be eagerly awaiting this system because it will lead to a fuckton more DLC for games that is of actual good quality and stable

I've never donated to a mod because it's not worth the money to me, but a paid-for DLC is already acceptable if the price is right, so I understand why this will probably work. I expect it may even become a standard in the industry

These aren't actual paid mods.

It's outsourced micro DLC.

>no it's not paid mods because we say so

Fucking stop. It is paid mods. Pretty much any major mod that is out there now will eventually be "Beth Sponsored" creation club content. The only type of shit that won't be creation club content will be horse cock mods and other shit like that.

Not really. It might have slowed down as far as the Bethesda modding community goes due to Skyrim getting old now, but I promise you the second the next scrolls game is released it will go full swing again.

>micro DLC
literally most mods.

>buy creation club currency through steam

I feel dirty just reading this. Valve and Bethesda disgust me.

>Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club

I agree with you on this, dead wasn't the right word, maybe "asleep" is more fit. But I feel like people just lost hope about a TES sequel, it's been so much time now.

It's not the same thing, because this goes through an approval process in house. Under your logic all DLC is literally paid mods, which they are technically if you want to be anal but everyone knows there's a distinction

You are delusional if you don't think most major mods will become creation club content. I can't believe you are naive enough to support this.

Nearly nobody plays Skyrim special edition, so there really isn't anyone to notice the system going up

>Nearly nobody plays Skyrim special edition

Consolefags do.

>Valve
It's entirely up to the developer/publisher what goes up on the store page.

With paid mods people used the chance to shit on valve

Creation Club was easier to announce since bethesda knows its audience are shiteaters.

>nobody cares about the game anymore
lol. Sup Forumstards little bubble they live in is so obnoxious. you know nothing of gamers and the gaming market.

no, i mean most mods are "micro DLC", except not paid.
>smarter villagers during dragon raids
>new house
>new bow
>two new weapons
>five new hair styles

>Because the modding community is half dead now
Enderal was only last year. Bruma was this year. TES5's modding scene is still doing alright.

Yeah exactly EXISITING MODS. Conviently enough the mods for the next Elder Scrolls game don't EXIST yet. Skyrim and FO4 are the last Bethesda games where most of the major mods are free.

objection
i have a platinum trophy in PS4 skyrim

They're paid official mods.
Basically DLC

Valve takes a cut from the sales. They benefit from it, just as they benefit from cards and other market items.

Hopefully they will release a version that has less polish and bug testing for the public but yeah, most major mods are going to be paid for in a few years time. We are in an age where people make money off of commenting on other people's work entirely. At least through this arrangement they're providing something of value beyond opinions and screaming at a mic.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Skyrim mod community was given a second breath with the SE. Both in the amount of mods being released and the scope/scale of mods being developed.

This. I bought it a few weeks ago.

I already have 70 hours without even touching the Main Quest. Kinda bored though so I'm giving it a break.

I could have played it in my laptop but I was just too uncomfortable and I don't really mod these games that much so no big deal for me.

store.steampowered.com/app/598110/Fallout_4__Creation_Club/

Fair price :^)

>paying for games

You deserve this bullshit.

Paid mods have been around forever. The issue with Steam's paid workshop was dismal quality control, stolen resources from the greater mod community, and hilariously unbalanced revenue sharing. The creation club's paid mods was bound to happen eventually but at least if Bethesda's hand is directly on the wheel then Steam won't take a 50% cut for putting up a website.

Sure, but Bethesda going full jew isn't Valve's fault. Valve's jewishness is well documented, but in this instance, I don't think they have much to do with it.

Because it only affects Bethesda games and only the shitty ones (so far)

Not enough people to give a shit about. Also less "marketing"

work from home, freal.

Still don't get why retards eat this shit when Skyrim already has tens of thousands of mods for free.

But they are not consistent in quality and only rarely do they look like something that actually belongs in that game, since most mods stick out like a sore thumb.

It's not paid mods any more than micro dlc is paid mods.

Because now they are paying people to make content.

Embarrassing

it's much more than paid mods. bethesda makes sure all mods will work together and stuff...

And most of the major mods for the next game will be "paid official mods"

I honestly doubt it. And if they did the free version would be basically ignored I guarantee it.

Most of the mods released on SE are ports though. Even CBBE didn't get a port.

They don't even make sure the systems in their games work together, how the hell will they manage the quality of third party stuff?

Because it's free

>all mods will work together and stuff..
At least sound smart when you shill. fuckers can't even make a fixed game.

They're trying to sell this shit to consoles. PS4 mods can't use any assets for the free mods, but paid mods will be able to. Just think of all the desperate kids who will buy them just so they can play with something substantial.

>changing a mudcrab costs money
God damn... This is already bad, but I certainly hope 150 credits is no more than 15 cents.

>they can play with something substantial
Bethesda got a really fucking fat cow with Skyrim. I mean their squeezing cheese with it now, its almost 7 years old a game from a generation ago. The decisions applied to console gaming was a mistake.

It's the difference between bethesda doing stupid shit versus the entire steam doing stupid shit.

Is creation club even out yet? I wonder if there will be anything good on it.

>bethesda "polishing and testing"

What exactly is wrong with creation club?

paid mods

>you know that amazing free thing you people have been making and enjoying?
>you can buy it from us now!

But you don't have to buy them

>being this much of a brainlet to see past the surface

Please explain

>don't worry its still free
>you buy it with bethesda points!
>only 5 dollars for 50 points and 10 points per mod
>what a steal!

Its console exclusive so literally nobody gives a shit. They're used to paying for garbage anyway so they're not complaining

>mods used to be made by people who loved vidya and wanted to make it better in their own way
>now they will be made by chinks who don't give a fuck and just want to cash in on reskins

There were tons of threads on Sup Forums about it but they kept it off steam this time is another major factor.

Bethesda fans are even less picky than Steam users.

THere have always been people who try and sell their mods and there have always been people who give them away for free. Nothing will change

I know, I'm just explaining to user why people are concerned.

That being said, even the idea of moving towards paid mods in ANY way is annoying to me, even if I know free mods will continue being a thing.

Doing paid mods as a nickle and dime approach doesn't work.
only way I could see paid mods working is if they did big mod bundles.
Imagine if we got mod bundles instead of the wasteland workshop stuff

>Two games in the last 6 years
>Shitty cash grab remaster for console kiddies
>Both games still buggy mess with the same terrible engine
Your not fooling anyone Todd

Imagine if we got actual expansions like we did in the 90s?

>new assets
>new storylines
>basically a second game attached to the first

Woo, that'd be something.

Try $1.50.

The exchange rate is basically $1 for 100 points.

But that's what DLC are.

:^)

Except now people have an OFFICIAL OUTLET to sell their mods. If you people seriously think the most popular major mods will remain frew then I had bad news for you.

Because the creation club is giving us tools that don't come in the Creation Kit, like adding new animation classes and direct access to behavior edits. This is why you need to be vetted to join the creation club.

A dollar for a fucking drawf crab.

Yes they will. A lot of them are unwilling to work for a timetabled contract. The majority of the competent modders don't mod for money, its their hobby and they have actual jobs to take care of.

I mean, Far Harbour and Dragonborn were pretty big DLCs

How long until the exclusive tools are leaked?

Those were expansions.

Not very likely, they probably require authorization on Bethesdas internal network.

they were sold as DLC.

Paid mods was on an existing platform that never had it, Creation Club is a new platform with a paywall built in. Presumably the CC won't restrict Steam Workshop usage or NMM.

can't take that long to create a hack to remove authorization

Contacted DLC != Mods

Because console fags are stupid cattle and will gobble up any shit they're fed.

If anything, I would like to see another FO4 happen where the game died because the modding community give up on the game.

Um no. I am pretty sure the vast majority of people who try to "sell" their mods are mostly just requesting donations, and worst case, threaten to stop updating their mod if they don't receive said donations. I'm pretty sure you can bump into legal issues for actually trying to sell content related to another companies game. But now there is an OFFICIAL avenue for them to sell mods.

These kinds of things are the exception now.

>SEASON PASS
>get 5 MP maps and some exclusive weapons/items for 60 extra dollars