SO basically there's absolutely no reason to use any weapon other than saw cleaver or saw spear in this game, right?
>stuck on a boss
>think to myself, ''this time I'll use a different weapon than my usual to beat him''
>use tornitus or whatever it's called since I never used that weapon
>about 10 tries in start running out of blood vials
>say fuck it and switch to saw spear
>beat the boss immediately
>different playthrough
>say to myself I'll play through the game with those knives from the Crow because they are insanely fun to use
>no matter what you do with them their damage is ridiculously low
>they are very fast so I try applying poison and such to them
>no matter how relentlessly and fast I attack the poison never catches on
>end up switching to saw again
Kinda lame man.
SO basically there's absolutely no reason to use any weapon other than saw cleaver or saw spear in this game, right?
I never liked either of them I thought they were stupid and gay. I'm well aware that they're "good", I just hate them. Mostly use the cane or kirkhammer. I was disappointed by the daggers too, stupid crow bitch can suck my threaded cock.
did you even fortify the other weapons?
did you spec into skill for blades?
was the boss you were on for the tornitus rom or the ayylmao? if not why were you using bolt?
yes, you can use starting weapons through the whole game, its about what moveset/ playstyle you prefer
personally i think the saw spear and cleaver are shit because their moveset bores me
The cleaver/spear are very good because the damage+stagger and beast meter buildup on the trick attack is godlike, but they're far from the only viable weapon. Maybe you're just switching to the weapons without upgrading them or using them without having good stats for them, but the tonnitrus that you have such a bad taste for has fucking donged bosses for me on an arcane playthrough, for example.
Yes I did all those things and all the weapons are either too weak or too slow compared to the saw. The saw is just perfectly balanced. Other than the saw I also really liked Maria's sword. The pain of getting it was totally worth it. And the boss was Amelia.
I never did the arcane anything in this game. I'm kinda put off by the fact that you have what maybe 2-3 uses of each spell. I know some weapons are good with it, but meh. Maybe on my next playthrough. Also never tried bloodtinge. As far as I know, you need to get very deep into the game before you get a weapon that uses it.
No you just suck at making builds. Also sound like you have shit gems
Favorite weapons the Hunter Axe. Those L2s
>I'm kinda put off by the fact that you have what maybe 2-3 uses of each spell.
You're a certified retard. 20 mas Q. silver bullets, plus more from runes, plus 5 bullets off every 5 bullets used by blood bulleting. Don't whine about the game because you're trash at it.
I like the hammer
You're aware Tonitrus is borderline broken right?
I think there's 2 bosses in the entire game that Tonitrus doesn't shred through.
Is your goal to complete the game as efficiently as possible or is your goal to have fun? Nobody is going to debate you on the saw weapons, combined with Beast Blood Pellets they are the dominant strategy for the game. Different weapons and builds in Bloodborne are effectively your difficulty slider. Do you play Uncharted on 'Easy' because it's the most efficient? No, you play it on normal or hard because it's the best experience
If you stack the buff with a few gems it's even more devastating
The kirk hammer is more all purpose.
Boring fast sword is good for everything.
Hammer is great for handling huge crowds (the rolling attack R1 comes out really quick and has AOE).
i found them shit, cane is the real op weapon
Yea okay. I actually played the game though so, yea.
I never said you didn't. I said you were a retard if you couldn't figure out how to get more casts out of spells items.
>How to win
>1. Get hunter axe
>2. hold R2
>3. did it work? If not hit L2 over and over
>4. did it work? If not, upgrade and repeat steps 2-4 until profit
blade of mercy only started getting good for me really late game after a shit ton of Endurance to do the long R1 spam combo. once you get enough End to get to the repeating stabs that speed up you can do some crazy damage. hard to get off cause its so long but fun when you can
AH, KOS OR SOME SAY KOSM
Arcane is god-tier. Slap an element gem on a weapon you like, and you're good to go. You can switch it up depending on boss. Tonitrus on an arcane build wrecks ayys. You think saw cleaver's good now, wait till you put some fire gems on that bitch with an arcane build. Just shreds through beasts. Hunter Tools are just a bonus. Very fun and not as hard of a build as you think.
Whatever you say buddy.
>get some shitty healing spell
>''hey maybe this will be useful in co-op''
>literally 3 uses WITH blood bulleting
Waste of bullets, I'd rather use them for parrying.
What is blood bullets? Some of the spells do suck, but I've never had a problem running out of bullets using them. Just need to manage your resource, and in a pinch, you can always get blood bullets.
You picked literally one of the worst spells to complain about. You genuinely are retarded. Just stop playing video games
No build variety made this game a lot less interesting
>Waste of bullets, I'd rather use them for parrying.
There's a spell that parries for 1 bullet. You aren't making it easy to resist calling you stupid.
If anything there's more build variety because every weapon is viable
They are to BB what straightswords are too DS3. Any form of RPG really, the most OP strategy is always boring and take the cool but underpowered weapons is more fun unless they absolutely suck like whips or the tonitrus.
I'm gonna use a spell to parry when I can just use the gun? Okay.
>OMG ur stupid that's not at all like that
>t-that doesn't count
I knew this board was a retard central, but I get surprised every day.
Kill yourself my man. I seriously wish people as dumb as you were euthanized.
Post your weaponfu
Threaded cane
You shouldn't wish for that as they would come for you as well.
Rakuyo all day, baby.
You don't always have to use the statistically best equipment, makes life easier but wheres the fun in that, you obviously used them the most and are used to he moveset so you do better with them, but you can do just as well with any other weapon. The balance is pretty decent in PVE across weapons (stake driver a shit though)
using a list of any IP that visits this website would be one of the best methods, this of course includes myself I'm a fucking moron
I used the hunter axe all the way until Shadows of Yharnam, I tried saw spear and kirkhammer just a little, but went back to axe. I switched to Ludwig's blade and shredder through the game until the Orphan, and that made me go for the whirligig saw. The oreo is definitely the best weapon imo
This. Most versatile weapon in the game and gets very good damage. Tricked mode has deceptively long range, and I absolutely love all of the angles you can hit from. That backstep + R2 is god tier.
Tonitrus with 40+ arcane is really fucking good.
Is this some kind of meme? I always thought that the cane was shit, I only ever had it as my secondary and not even as that for long as I changed it to kirkhammer
The cane is a goddamn sleeper powerhouse. Once you hit 40 skill and get some decent gems on it the thing just fucking eats bosses and shits damage. Maining it as soon as you start the game is basically hardmode because of the lackluster base damage, tho.
So one playthrough and you think you acquired enough knowledge to judge which is the best weapon?
nope, it is the best weapon in the game, scales really well with skill = more parry damage uses little to no stamina whip form has awesome range plus more damage vs beasts
I've beat most of the bosses in bloodborne by only using the tricked axes L2.
Knocking bosses on their asses is fun.
Press up on the d-pad and it will sacrifice some of your health to make 5 extra "blood bullets" that get used instead of regular bullets until they run out. There are some runes that play off this mechanic, and it's the main way people use early bloodtinge builds.
I never has as much fun with any other weapon as I do with this bad boy. Transformed moveset is so sexy.
Blood tinge build with chikage melts any boss in the game
Best weapon for me I'd say, everyone uses the weapon they like the best
Damn, I never knew, and probably neither did most of the people who played the game. The cane is pretty bad in the early game, so I imagine a lot of people including myself just disregard it as useless
R1 into L1-R1-L2 all day. It's the best combo if you can't always spam the R1 combo.
augur of ebreitas is the most broken thing in the base game that i encountered and it only costs 1 QS bullet.
>can be used to stagger enemies for visceral attacks
>knocks most enemies down if you dont get the parry
>does really good damage
>can be used while two handing a weapon.
>can be used to stagger logarius even if he powers up
>or anything else that reflects bullets or doesnt get staggered by them
>makes gehrman a cake walk
i have no idea why they made it so OP, but once you get it you can put all your guns in the storage box and use the sprayers and torches.
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When I first played BB i started with sawclever, ate shit on the cleric beast and I thought to myself "damn this weapon sucks, restart", I got the cane, killed the cleric beast on my 3rd attempt and played the rest of the game + dlc with it
Cane is fucking god tier.
>SO basically there's absolutely no reason to use any weapon other than saw cleaver or saw spear in this game, right?
To explore their capacities and appearances? Oh wait, two or three require zero finesse, let's just use those and ignore the rest.
>Blades of Mercy
>Low damage
Nigger those things can drop Ludwig almost as quick as the pizza cutter can, and they're not even serrated. Cleaver (and by extension, Spear) is an excellent weapon with a very versatile set of moves, and what's happening is you've grown used to that weapon and its moves which is giving you difficulty adapting to other things. If you're ever running out of blood vials you're doing something wrong either way. Cleaver is EZ mode.
They seemed to think that a shorter range, slower parry was so bad that it needed all that shit to justify anyone ever using it.
from what I read on a wiki, it kinda used to be shitty, so they buffed it in a patch, and suddenly it went 0 to hero really fast.
Cool, a BB weapon thread. So I''m doing a STR build with my focus on maining the Amydalan arm. Untricked mode just looked so savage, like a club from the stone age which you just beat the fuck out of enemies with until they stop existing. And tricked mode has that range. Any combo tips or any secret properties to the arm I should know?
you hit thing reel gud
hit thing bad arm don't work as well
Tonitrus and BoM are boring and shit though
The club has a cool two-part focus attack, at least.
With the extended arm, power attacks do extra strikes after you swing. If you do a dully charged focus attack, it does an extra two attacks afterwards (which you can interrupt)
>If you do a dully charged focus attack
*fully
When tricked you should just alternate R1 and R2 in your combo since it's swing is way too wide to properly chain on anything fast
>tfw everyone tries to use whip form exclusively because of the hunter who pushes their shit in with it when they first go into the nightmare and they write it off as a shit weapon without learning how devastating the untricked form can be
Gotta mention the claws too, they're just fun as fuck.
It's a well known fact that the saw weapons are way better than anything else. Anyone that says otherwise is only outing themselves as a moron that played the game casually without putting in any effort.
The Hunter's Axe is most commonly considered the most OP weapon in the game to the point where most players don't even want to use it because it's so game breaking. If you pick anything other than that as OP, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Tonitrus fucking wrecks everything on my str/arc build
The cane is pretty bad early on, but it actually doesn't take all that long to get it going. It's a tradeoff you just have to take, because ultimately, the TC can be both a short and long range melee weapon, and can also be a church weapon (untricked) or serrated weapon (tricked). It's like one of 2 weapons in the game that are both church and serrated. Combined with its gem slots, scalings, and movesets, it can tackle any situation the game throws at you.
It was my first weapon on my first build in BB and it carried me through the entire game. On my future playthroughs, it was hard trying NOT to use it because it's just that good and nothing else was as fun.
Why is it's rally so fucking high ?
yeah the beast cutter is the chad version of the faggy cane
I mean the hunters axe has a fantastic moveset and high rally, but the serrated bonus beats that i think. Kill shit quicker etc.
Memeblade is just as broken as Haxe, there's a reason it's the memeblade.
Church pick a best.
Maybe it's just you. I've beaten the game with: Wheel, cane, axe, hammer, the real fast double daggers that get more damage the more attacks in a combo that land.
I can't remember all the ones I use but they were all fine. Some may out damage others but it never felt like I was wasting my time with any weapon I wanted to use.
Are you sure your stats were fine?
You're absolutely right, I posted this while pretending the Hunter's Axe doesn't exist. I never used it until recently for that very reason and it really is as OP as everyone said. I still don't use it unless I get really annoyed by a group of enemies.
Piledriver 4 lyf
>Stunlocking the dragon made out of dried twigs
>Every time he tries to do his huge one hit kill blast nail him right in the face at the perfect moment and stagger him out of it.
I wish more games had piledrivers.
What the fuck is a memeblade?
I always preferred the fist weapons myself.
Arcane = easy mode
Pizza Cutter = Easier Mode though harder to use
>I didn't use Haxe because it's too OP
>But I mained Cleaver and everyone I tried anything but Cleaver I kept dying so went back to Cleaver
Majestic
Well yea, Axe is bullshit, I may suck, but I'm not a bitch.
The sword you see 60% of invaders/summoners using.
Forgot to mention my favorite weapons were the cane whip and double daggers. Wish Dark Souls whips were that good, fun, ad satisfying. Liked using them all but the pure str weapons could have used a bit more damage output. They were still viable, though.
>Arcane
>Easy
Fuck you it takes so damn long to get proper gems.
I agree but i'll stick with my fag cane. Beast Cutter is fucking cool and I need to git gud with it eventually, but holy shit it's whip mode is goddamn slow as fuck.
just stop at 98, most Ludwig fags are 120/150
>makes gehrman a cake walk
God I wish I'd known this going in, I did a str + a bit of arc slapdash blind build my first time through and ended up relying so heavily on anger of diabetes I think I might've ruined the experience of fighting him for the first time. It wrecks Maria even harder, not that she needs anything else to.
Blacksky thankfully makes a lot of bullshit chalice dungeon bosses a piestroll too.
No it doesn't. You literally just rush it after the fist boss, which is insanely easy by going through the first level of the dungeon.
The fire gem carries you all the way until you can get other Arcane Scaling gems to the point where it's stronger than everything else.
Completely ignoring the fact that Hunter Tools (Magic) are DaS1 tier overpowered one shotting bosses type bullshit.
DS3 has that one flame whip that's honestly excellent on a pyro build. R2s now have a beautiful wide-hitting arc with enormous range, and the weapon art is a sexy multi-hitting combo. Too bad that one whip is near endgame and the spiked whip/regular whip are decent at best.
I like it because it lets me parry shit while using the dual daggers. Otherwise I just stick with the pistol. Before I knew about it though it was a pain trying to remember I need to L1 before I could pary shit which fucked me up a lot.
You can get a fire gem from that area at the very bottom of the church workshop by killing the lone brainsucker there. Slap that on your saw spear/cleaver and you will shred beasts forever. Then grab Tonitrus after getting sacked and you're basically set for the rest of the game.
Literally one of the easiest and most OP builds i've done in BB.
do any of you lads create girl(male) hunters?
If you're running out of vials and complaining about every weapon but the Cleaver being shit because they can't carry you, you might just in fact be a bitch.
OK but you have to come out and say that the untricked mode is actually a toy
Agreed, Witch's Locks is as good as whips get in the Souls series. Great for pvp too because most people don't know how to deal with the special attack, or even expect you to use a whip in the first place.
I'm just saying. Shut up.
There was an user on the general who had a girl(male) hunter who was perfect. He never shared the slider though, that piece of shit. White hair, cute as all hell. Fuck I hate that user for never sharing the sliders.
I'm talking about actual ARC gems to make your weapon viable for pvp. Just to get easy as fuck flat arc gems I have to get to FRC Iyll and Isz or FRC lower loran if I want perfect %gems. It is a very long process to do this.
>+3 Spear, rush BSB
>Do first chalice twice for fire gems
>Get fire gem from lower cathedral ward
You now have a +3 fire Spear that (through upgrading and scaling) can carry you for the rest of the game.
The problem I've always had with these games is blowing all my resources one one or two weapons, so if I find something new, I can't know if it's 'as good' without risking a shitload of upgrade resources on something that I might not like. I mean, it's probably fine if you're one of those who likes going up into NG+7 or whatever, but yeah. uhhh kirkhammer is okay, I suppose.
>PVP
You're an idiot.
Ignoring that though, it's not like most players farmed anything. As long as you had decent or better than average gems, it wasn't hard to shit on people with the best gems in the game with a little skill.
I bet you haven't even completed the chalices fag. Stop talking like you know anything about the game apart from what you read online.