First good shooter in years

>first good shooter in years
>dead before arrival
what did they mean by this?

I thought we were in 2017, not 1996.

champions is shit tho

>dead before arrival
what are you smoking? there's tonnes of people playing nigger

I hope not, when I get internet back I hope to play this a lot. Blue Hair Player might ruin it though. She's OP.

Just bought it. Still more players than lawbreakers

>Dead on arrival
>It's in Early Access!!

Get your facts straight, OP. The game isn't even formally released.

im so fucking bad but now when i play other games im dominating them on there

It's still only f2p for people who got a CBT key, we'll see how it takes off once it's f2p for everyone. Personally I'm struggling to get into it, I keep getting my head kicked in, for whatever reason since the account reset and the introduction of doom slayer I just cannot get back into the swing of things.

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Since it came out on steam the bethesda launcher has completely failed to launch or update or function at all for me.

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Add in the non-Steam players and you have 1000 players minimum, unless someone here really believes there are more paid players than free players.

what about the bots tho?

>good
it is dogshit, an "arena shooter" with unequal starts, awful netcode, no server browser, almost irredeemable
i would rather play cod than quake champions

bots?

What are they doing? Idling for hats?

How much of this is true and how much of this is being worked on, can anyone confirm and explain further?
t. person waiting for the price to drop a bit

therer is no way i'm playing a moba even if it's quake.

unequal starts are in, the champions you select have different stats (speed, health, armor, ultimate ability, and some passives, such as ranger taking 25% less damage with rocket jumps)
the netcode is dogshit, from my personal experience and many other comments that i have read on the steam discussion board and on the game's official forums there is a massive problem with the netcode that has been there since alpha and is still not fixed
there is no server browser of any capacity, you can do a private match but its still on bethesda's servers, no custom maps, no crazy gamemodes like freeze tag
i've played the game f2p since the closed beta, it is the same and it is trash

>matchmaking servers
>classes
>cooldowns
>bad netcode
gee i wonder why the quake audience didn't like it
>quake
gee i wonder why the casual audience didn't like it

a product for nobody

Unequal starts are pretty normal for the genre.
The netcode was certainly terrible last I played but there is, as ever, a fix pending.
There is no server browser and when you finish an ffa game you get booted back to the menu to queue again instead of just going to the next map so you spend like 80% of your time fucking waiting.

now i'm going to have to load up q1
fk u

i should also mention that you can choose 3 starting weapons (the nailgun, the machine gun, and the shotgun)
>Unequal starts are pretty normal for the genre.
literally not even halo 5 has unequal starts and no quake game before besides live after that one shitty steam update has had unequal starts. when your arena shooter is a lower tier than halo 5 you have ruined the game

b-b-but i like it..

there are plenty of better quake derivatives than this quake/hero shooter hodgepodge of a game but you corporate dicksuckers wouldn't know about any of that.

Is it though? it takes less than two minutes to find a game, and it's fun.

Fuck Sorlag though.

>implying

I'm going to take a rough guess and say that you're playing against regular quake heads because I've noticed the same thing.

I think most of the casuals stopped playing, because the chat used to be buzzing at all hours. It puts me in the awkward position of someone who enjoys FPS but never really played Quake. I usually do 'alright' in deathmatch at least, but my average is probably about 3rd-4th place.

Not that random DM means much but hey.

>play super mario bros 2
>mario luigi peach and toad all play differently
Fucking Nintendo selling out to ASSFAGGOTS

Arena shooters were only appealing to the masses because lack of choice. Only a handful of autists stayed behind for Quake.
The problem with Quake: Champions is that casuals will not touch it with a ten foot stick and hardcore quake fans will just rather stay playing the real deal rather than a sequel attempting to mimic that.

>lack of choice
And there's still lack of choice today

people who whine about sorlag an anarki are such insufferable faggots

No. Today there's the choice between easily approachable game that any retard knows how to play and score some sweet kills with that Q button OR this shooter that actually tries it's best to make players compete each other ruthlessly where the best players will continuously stomp the worst players like roaches.

people who play sorlag and anarki are shitters

>awful visual style
>technical problems
>no item pickup rework
It's fucking garbage.

If there's so much choice then why are there no games I want to play?

>>no item pickup rework

What do you mean they put everything on a 30s timer :^)

She's easy to nail, easy to rail... before she gets a stack

>first good shooter in years
Siege (inb4 "muh ubishit)
>dead before arrival
Hitreg is completely broken, the game is obviously based around a shitty class sytem nobody wanted etc, Bethesda's shitty launcher etc.

Pickups should be controlled by teams, not individuals. TDM is fucking boring.

>two etc
I need sleep.

>Siege
>Muh slow tacticool squad autism
Play one, you played them all, those games are trash, may as well name CoD and CSGO.

siege is garbage and an embarrassment to the tom clancy brand
actually everything past chaos theory has been an embarrassment to the brand.

>I've clearly never played the game and am here to shitpost

this

Siege is best FPS atm.

I don't play slow wanna be soldier shitty tacticool realism generic crap, join the army or something if you love that shit.

played it on the free weekend m8, It's trash

games so good, just wish more people played, and that more people played sacrifice.

also need full rune page as default, fuck having to get runes as loot

>Siege
lmao fuckin' dudebro games.

bump

do you know what a moba is?

>for every person actually good at video games there is 1000 casuals
seems about right

same. its just insulting to my intelligence

If it's not good enough to justify switching from QL/Q3A it's no surprise it's ded. The people who play Quake are the ones who care about netcode and play with all the rendering settings set to minimum for the minimum visual noise. The target audience is casuals, but they don't want to play it because it's got the Quake name.

I'm a newfag to Quake, whats a stack?

Nobody likes Hero Shooters except blizzdrones and 3rd worlders.

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
CSGO is a moba
Team Fortress 2 is a moba
Dark Souls is a moba

Health and armour. Usually when they have more than 100/100.

>good
played this shit for over 40 hours and it is fucking shit and i will always have the old quake so suck my cock you fucking nigger

>'''''''tactical'''''' shooter with call of duty meta that rewards just picking the fastest characters

May as well just play Quake and truly go fast

Total active playerbase is like 2-3k if you add Bethesda Launcher numbers (estimated, Bethesda doesn't show you player numbers). ~65k people bought it on Steam last I checked

>from my personal experience and many other comments that i have read on the steam discussion board and on the game's official forums there is a massive problem with the netcode that has been there since alpha and is still not fixed

It will not be fixed. If it could be, it already would be. I know they're talking of moving things to a more server-side model (a la QL), but considering the game has been playable for so long and they still haven't (and I'd wager a lot of people dropped it over network issues) done anything about it removes all hope

Keep in mind a lot of the engine stuff is outsourced to slavs (Saber Interactive), for whatever reason Tim Willits didn't want to use any one of the perfectly good engines his own company has developed throughout the years

be honest, do you think this game will die soon? I was planning on getting it.

Isn't an update coming out this week? And a huge one in October?

Sorlag is far more honest than Anarki I feel. Everyone land insane LG and Rail against Sorlag's fat ass hitbox. Anarki is just a pain in the ass to hit and can instantly heal

see if i am the masochist to play a broken game like this and it is FUCKING QUAKE!!! this shit needs to be perfect, they can fuck off with this shit

Anarki, you miss every rail and as soon as you hit one he heals and hops off at Mach 5. Sorlag, you hit three rails in a row, then you get puked all over and they get a BEYOND THE GRAVE.

this class shit doesnt fit within quake they are so fucking stupid

dumb sorlag poster

I disbelieve their promises regarding significant improvements in netcode. Considering they could have just done QC with QL's (near perfect) netcode, why didn't they? It's obvious they wanted to try Quake with a more client-side approach, including predicted rockets in the style of the Unlagged mod for Q3

The problem is, Quake dies without precision and reliability, and their decisions were for a more lax netcode, which generated the constant dud rockets and rails. That they have stuck with this style of netcode for this long considering they have the source code to the MP code of all of their games (which has been roughly the same since Quakeworld, locally predicted player movement + unpredicted shooting), which has been extensively tested, successful in enabling competition and that they could implement incredibly easily for QC just makes me doubt all their claims

Stop getting on Sorlag's face. Seriously. Treat her like Scalebearer

She's actually shit at chasing people too, even with completely perfect movement (easier said than done, turn on the speedometer and see how hard it is to cap her speed and keep it there), her max speed is only 520ups, second slowest in the game

>QUAKE GAME developed in UNREAL ENGINE
How the mighty have fallen

Don't be retarded.

Blame the retarded genre name.

>just making up random shit

It will probably see a huge influx of players when it becomes F2P again. The problem right now is that you can no longer get in for free unless you were in for the beta, and on Steam it is paid

But don't hold your breath, despite the slight casualization, this is still an arena shooter - it's niche and unforgiving, and destined to have a smaller playerbase essentially by design

What in the god damn are you even on about?

Also, id have been talking about single player shit for this game. What would you do for it?

>tfw nobody plays quakeworld anymore

I love QW even though I suck. It's why I play fighters pretty much. If people still played QW that's what I would be playing. Not interested in QC, got into the very first closed beta and it was not for me. I don't even really like live/vq3, cpm is ok but feels 'off' and I don't really like how the RG affects duels. The duality of LG/RL is perfect to me.

I got into videogames too late, I wish I fucking knew about qw in my teen years before the game totally died besides the same 4 swedes playing on their LANs.

quakeworld is actually garbage

>Also, id have been talking about single player shit for this game

This is so far off in the future it's basically a pipe dream right now. The game lacks maps, gametypes and champions

And I'll bet you it won't be anything exciting like a mini-campaign with unique maps. I'd expect bot matches with """plot""" on top, like UT3 did SP. But they'll need to add bots before that, another thing QC's missing (which UT4, in fucking pre-alpha, already has)

I also love Quakeworld. Truly the SSF2T of shooters. Gonzo and broken, but a bizarre balance arises from it

Still the Quake game with the best movement to me. Q2/Q3 style of movement is just so limited

get out of here with your awful opinions QCbab

it's funny you use that metaphor because I actually play ST online these days to scratch my competitive streak, do you use fightcade?

Moving in Quakeworld makes me want to throw up.

I'm a monkey soup drinker, so I doubt we can play without latency.

I don't know if you knew this, but one of the best Quakeworld players of all time (and currently, he still fucking plays) is brazilian: GT, probably the player with the best movement in the history of competitive QW. Most of his bhops in a match will be backward, full speed, and he almost never hits a wall

>first good shooter in years
You mean reflex?

You mean Warsow?

>(which UT4, in fucking pre-alpha, already has)
Sadly players is one thing UT4 doesn't have and at this rate - never will have.

yeah I know about GT

I don't even know how these guys practice with such an anemic community, and still dominate offline. It's insane.

Who here /nevergotgudwithrailrifle/ here?

It's a real shame. UT4 is unironically the best iteration of Unreal-style gameplay

I think arena shooters are destined to be eternally niche, like SHMUPs or something. There's something about their design that's just too brutal and not conductive to gigantic fanbases. They were bigger in the early days of 3D shooters, where everyone wanted to try them because the idea of playing virtual paintball with your friends in a garage LAN was novel, but nowadays it's old hat and won't captivate people

>I don't even know how these guys practice with such an anemic community,

All it takes is having a duel partner. Practicing for TDM is a bigger hassle, but with PUGs it can be done

You'll need contacts and friends, though

This desu

how do I find one?

Find someone else afflicted with the AFPS autism.

>skills
>drafting a team for "duel"
stop shiling this trash

You're gonna HATE what gearbox is concocting.

Sup Forums has always been a place where nobody has a clue about anything quake. it's always been odd to me since you would think that quite a lot of old people are here that are part of the quake community but obviously not.

the game is neither dead, nor will it be dead on arrival. it has nothing to do with mobas just because it has different characters and development on it started BEFORE overwatch. id is trying something new because nobody really wantsd Q3A with updated graphics, even if people keep saying it.

most of you fucks havent played much quake any way, yet you whine about how this isn't a real quake. if it was nearly identical you wouldn't play it either. stop pretending you faggots.

fuck i hate Sup Forums

wrong

Quake came with Voodoo 3D add-on card user
Voodoo Card out of business, Quake die