tldr; Anyone got any good abrahamic religion themed enemies/bosses or somewhere where I can find information on biblical monsters/warriors/creatures?
Im making a game where basically it's the MC vs Satan, then they team up/make a deal so then it's MC and Satan vs God. I need some religion themed enemies/bosses but I can't find any good sources on them. I read in another thread to include weird and almost creepy looking angels, not just cherubims, so I've got that.
I've also got these:
>Gatekeeper of eden: Uriel (Sidequest/Optional Area) >Leviathan, Behemoth and Ziz >Angel/Demon Hierarchy's
Jayden Myers
If you're looking for something like that, the whole theme of El Shaddai is about exactly what you posted.
Brody Torres
Bayonetta has what you're seeking, has some pretty neat Angel designs
Austin Martin
SMT
Ryan Roberts
Never heard of that game. Just read up on the plot though and it has its similarities, I'll look into it further later, thanks!
Holy shit I've never played bayonetta or even seen any gameplay of it before, these abstract angels are exactly what I was thinking of, perfect for inspiration, thanks
Bentley Rivera
Binding of Isaac is probably worth a look. Most of the early bosses are based on gore or body horror kinda stuff but the later and hidden bosses are a lot more religiously themed. The game itself is absolutely crammed with biblical references so there's a lot of ideas to take.
Jaxson Miller
Darksiders
Luke Wood
Damn you're right, they even have Uriel. Im gonna look more into these, but a lot of the gory enemies are more for the hell theme/area, going for ultra fucked up. Once again, perfect inspiration my nigga ty
Michael Hall
The angel hierarchy is funny to me. Even Heaven is a vertically structured business.
Thomas Ortiz
Most shin megami tensei games have angels and demons pit against eachother, but also contains characters and enemies from other religions and mythologies.
Christian Collins
I really wish more games incorporated some of the old school biblical Angels into their games. If you ever read up on them, some of the descriptions range from weird to disturbing. Azrael, for example, has 4 faces, 4,000 wings, and his whole body consists of eyes and tongues. Then you had the Cherubs who had the face of an ox, an eagle, a lion, and a man. THere was also another Angel, name escapes me, that was like millions of miles tall.
Yeah, old school biblical angels were fucked up.
Aiden Williams
what's the difference between satan and lucifer?
Ian Cox
Satanachia is CUTE
Charles Jackson
Satan is the prince of evil if you're a brainlet Lucifer is if your almonds are activated Satan is an angel if you're REALLY activated
Owen Campbell
>MC vs Satan, then they team up/make a deal so then it's MC and Satan vs God. Why dont you do the oposite? Im kind of tired of "god is actually the bad guy" meme. Even MGQ follows that
Elijah Torres
I keep trying to find a place for information on these angels but nothings turning up, I really wanna incorporate some otherworldly shit for the angels
Anthony Clark
depends on your religion, most of the time they're the same person but some sects believe they're different people. Jews formally believe that there is no "satan" and that hell is just hell.
Jeremiah Adams
read the old testament and Hebrew scripture you mong.
Jaxson Perry
Lucifer is Satan before he got kicked out of heaven.
Jace Brown
I was always led to believe that Lucifer was the ruler of Hell and Satan was just one of his underlings.
Joshua Hill
AFAIK they're the same person, supernatural beings often have multiple epithets
Brayden Smith
monster girl quest part 3
Nathan Harris
What is the Christian position on non-Christian deities? Are they all demons, or are some reinterpreted as angels/benevolent spirits or whatever? I ask because Medieval/Rennaissance writers like to make reference to Greco-Roman myth.
Dylan Kelly
You'd have it backwards then. Satan is at times considered a force that always existed, a being that represents temptation and wrongdoing (See Adam and Eve)
Lucifer was at one point an angel that was pissed about how benevolent God was to wrong doers and was tempted by Satan's draw. Satan is generally seen as the grand deceiver, but most of the time they're the same fucking thing and if you're a christian you should listen to your jew texts where there is now big bad demon in hell.
Ryder Richardson
>tfw there will never be a good Christian game
Owen Barnes
>Lucifer was at one point an angel that was pissed about how benevolent God was to wrong doers and was tempted by Satan's draw. Nigga what, I thought Lucifer tried to overthrow God and got banned from Heaven because he was jealous of Adam and Eve. The whole snake thing was just plan B
Daniel Ross
From a Christian perspective, non-Christian deities don't exist, they're just ideas that people made up, or, according to some, ideas that Satan told to the people to make them not worship the true God.
Carson Long
Sorry for playing the meme but it's too late to go back now. I guess it's okay because Satan is really the "bad guy" in the end (It's debatable). MC wants to kill god because god lets good people die and bad people thrive. He thinks the earth is shit and he's doing nothing to help it, so he teams up with satan to kill him. It turns out that the reason god can't go to earth and help is because a power as strong as him on earth would attract the titans who are imprisoned on the dark side of the earth, where they can't see shit and wander aimlessly for years. (Around Antarctica is a giant ice wall, beyond that wall is eternal darkness and storms, it's based off some flat earth theories that I thought were cool. This is what the "Dark side of the earth" is.) The reason Satan really wanted to kill god, is that he hates god for creating him as well as sending him to watch over hell where the conditions are ass compared to heaven. He hates that god created him for the sole purpose of praise, he would literally sing praise for god 24/7 and he was sick of it (Seraphim angels main purpose is to just praise god. See the image attached to the OP), so he turned against god and lost, so god cast him to hell.
Landon Ortiz
They aren't all demons and they aren't considered spirits. They're false idols, they aren't real. Their power was supposedly falsified by mystics and other such humanly shit. There didn't need to be a massive denouncing or adoption of Pagan Gods because the Emperor himself converted and used his status and the legions to push his new religion. The reason so many Christian holidays fall on Pagan holidays is because Pagan Holidays were so important to day to day Roman life, it was less a religious thing to them and more of a chance to express themselves.
Elijah Bailey
surprised nobody mentioned diablo yet not D3, but diablo 2 had some choice designs also, there was an x files episode i remember that depicted a 4 faced angel- try to find that
Lincoln Rivera
here are you options, pick
1.Lucifer is the highly favored angel created by God whereas Satan is his name when he was thrown away from heaven. 2.Lucifer is an angel of God whereas Satan is the name of the devil. 3.Lucifer is not the exact opposite of God whereas Satan is a name that pertains more to opposition. 4.Lucifer has a physical form whereas Satan does not have any.
Evan Roberts
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Kevin Ward
>they're just ideas that people made up But that's true of all gods, even *the* God. God is as powerful as He is because He got a majority of the planet to worship Him. But I guess you can't tell your followers "hey even I'm dependent on you, pls gib spirit energy"
Josiah King
This is pretty played out. "God is evil" is now cliched the the point where a good God would be shocking.,
Chase Stewart
But isnt Lucifer his demon name and Helel his angel name? then how can Lucifer be satan when he was an angel when Helel is Lucifer when he was an angel
Cooper Sanchez
The bible doesn't touch on any of it, only religious sects do. Roman Catholic Church says they're the same fucking thing. Jews don't believe in devils or satan, Satan to them just means opponent, when it appears in the old testament it has nothing to do with an evil red devil in hell.
Luke Sullivan
Pretty sure Beelzebub was just a pagan god that the christians demonized to make their religion look better back in pre jesus era nowadays no christian deities are just things some other people woship/used to worship, but are not considered really true or on the same level of "real" as God
John Perez
are you retarded by any chance? You're either retarded or fourteen or something.
>But that's true of all gods, even *the* God. God is as powerful as He is because He got a majority of the planet to worship Him.
That's not the point you fedora tipping fucking idiot.
Carson Clark
What about a typical "God is evil" plot, but then you find out that God really is the good guy after all? Has it been done?
Carter Gomez
>Get curious about the Book of Enoch >It's pretty freaking good except the parts where Micheal is leading Enoch around and telling him about the gates that the Sun and Moon pass through >It also explains key parts of the old testament and new testament
Jaxon James
Gods duking it out for supremacy was a big part of early Judaism. There were Gods like El Shaddai (God), Baal, and Dagon who the ancient Jews all believed existed, but that El Shaddai was the best and most powerful of the Gods. Wasn't until later that they just straight up said that no other Gods exist besides El.
Jack Collins
pre-Jesus Christians are called Jews user
Asher Morales
i dont know man, how can jesus be 100% divine and 100% man
Joshua Murphy
see In the game I used 1. Lucifer is the name he uses that garners less respect, or something that he would use with someone who he is on friendly terms with. Something like, "Satan sir..." "Oh just call me Lucifer."
Logan Williams
HOL UP HOL UP YOU GONNA START A SCHISM IN THIS BITCH NESTORIAS
Grayson Torres
>when Enoch first lay his eyes on God >when Enoch is shown where all the bitch nigger angels are imprisoned
Christ, Book of Enoch was something else.
Levi Perry
He put all of his points in the spiritual skills.
Aiden Evans
I'm not even saying it's a bad thing man, compared to a lot of other gods God is pretty fucking benevolent and cool. I'm just saying what I think about deities and how they get their power. Also not the guy who asked the original question.
Levi Campbell
first council of nicea was literally "just turn off ur brain bro"
Luke Ward
Son of god that pretty much explains how he can be a divine man
How can Helel be the same entity as Lucifer and Satan at the same time? I always thought that Helel got kicked out of heven for telling god on his bullshit, and became a fallen angel called Lucifer, while Satan was an angel god made to control hell and all the other crap he doesnt want to deal with The book of Job kinda alludes to this because Satan talks to god like god is his boss, not his enemy
Colton Sanders
But to even express the idea that
"Well, those god's are just as fake as THE GOD"
Is fucking stupid. That's the basis of religion.
Noah Reyes
>Enoch gets a personal tour of heaven >Enoch sees the Tree of Life >Enoch also sees Jesus How did Enoch get so lucky?
Jordan Thompson
They are below YHWH
Henry Carter
But I actually believe God is real, user. Maybe not the whole creation and stuff but y'know
Gavin Perry
Am I the only one that sometimes considers that the most popular religion on earth might have all started when some girl fucked around some guy, got pregnant and blamed on an angel so she wouldnt get stoned to death and somehow her peers bought that story?
Angel Rodriguez
if using god's name in vain is a sin, why the fuck did any of us learned the fucking name? why did some angel tell us something that will pretty much make us sin without even realizing we are doing it?
David Gomez
idk if I explained it well enough in but that's what Im going for in a way haha. It turns out satan was just using you in a way (He still views you as a friend/comrade in the end but he was dishonest with his motives on why he wanted to kill god, saying they were the same as the MC's when really he was just saying that to get the MC to join him.) to help him gain enough power to kill god, since he can't do it on his own. Whereas it turns out there was a reason that god was doing what seemed to be bad things and he is trying his best to keep earth together.
Julian Price
Lol all of the Christcucks in this thread. We could have been colonizing the fucking Milky Way if it wasn't for your suppression of science. God is dead!
Owen Hill
Is using YHWH to actually refer to God a sin? I always understood "using God's name in vain" to mean using "God" when you curse or swearing on Him or something.
Jayden Evans
>This thread Did any of you actually read the bible or do you all just read out of context quotes published on some random atheism facebook page and roll with it?
You and all the other edgy retards that didn't actually read the bible.
Jonathan Howard
The reality is that sin does not exist but is simply a way for YHWH, the demiurge to prevent humans from discovering their inner God and breaking through the veil that separates the Earth from the Heavens.
Jace Miller
Fucking Koreans. If they hadn't started the Hyper War we would be on Mars right now
Owen Cox
gnostics pls go, sin exists in non-abrahamic religions too
Christopher Moore
daily reminder that Marcion was right all along
the old testament was a mistake
Luis Harris
Lets say god's name is "Dave", the sin says that using God's name in vain is a sin, so whenever you use Dave in a sentence that is not important could be considered in vain and thus a sin
So if you just go and say YHWH out of the blue and not use it well in a meaningful sentence, it was used in vain, congrats, you just sinned, hope you are catholic so you can "clean" that mess by praying 12 Holly Marys
Colton Roberts
>God is as powerful as He is because He got a majority of the planet to worship Him. Dude, you're fucking retarded. Did you learn about Christianity by watching fucking anime?
Aiden Rodriguez
bael and moloch are frequently referenced in the old testament as a pagan gods the jews turned to between the times god appointed them judges. Like literally the second a judge passed the jews would turn to worshipping moloch probably because god was a real jerk to them all the time and forced them to eat shitty manna and sacrifice thousands of bulls for him instead of eating them.
Dante's inferno and the catholics in particular definitely use Bael at the least as a demon entity.
To answer your question: christianity was an excellent conquering religion. It managed to assimilate many other religions as it grew while also not alienating (too much) the cultures it absorbed. See jews and muslims for abject failure on that part. You can convert to christianity and be saved- you can be forgiven, make amends, pay indulgences, etc. In Islam there is very little room for mistake on the part of an unbeliever, and for jews, all goyim are tainted no matter what. You will never be a part of the chosen peoples.
Hudson Wood
Stargate, that is a plot point of the last big bad of SG1
Eli Turner
>We live in a modern society in which it is possible to print a fucking car in your own home >somehow less advanced than a society that was wiped out by a flood
Whoever made that chart probably believes in flat earther bullshit too.
Mason Adams
why is the gospel of john so unintenionally funny
Jace Rivera
It's a meme making fun of people who'd post the original chart starting at Egypt (You)
Aaron Wilson
Yaldabaoth's reach is greater than just one cult or religion, but comprises the entire physical world.
Luis Morgan
Immaculate conception is a meme. It is literally a meme. Get a rundown on the veydic texts or literally any other religion that appeared during the time and what do you know its all the same archetypes told in very similar ways!
The real story is that god is a machine and that machine has left us with certain precepts knowing that we will eventually create another.
Chase Sanders
I think it's supposed to be a joke.
Jackson Myers
and yet a group of teens with attitude managed to beat him
Jaxon Ramirez
He was either literally the first human in existence that was a good person or the original prophet of God. The only other people who get the same treatment as him were Elijah and Islamic Jesus.
Kayden Ramirez
tall angel is Sandalphon iirc
Levi Rivera
Biblical lore is fucking rad.
I wish we had more bible games.
>tfw no assassin's creed style game where you play as an angel locked in combat with a devil ala Good Omens except without the gay undertones
Jonathan Campbell
God's favorite pet human that is pretty much it
William Jenkins
Why is Nebirios a bad guy? He seems like a decent fella
Owen Wilson
The way he is described (would take a human forever to walk across his body) always made me imagine him as a really long thing, not a tall humanoid
Ethan Mitchell
>first human to be a good person How was adam not a good dude? besides eating the apple, what did he do in his life to be considered bad?
Jaxson Morales
Dominions is pretty cool for this kind of stuff. Also features the rephaites/fallen angels. Here you see a vampire hero fighting off two archangels and a bunch of other crap by his lonesome.
Aiden Gomez
listened to a woman
Hunter Walker
He literally ate the fucking fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Abel was killed and the other descendants we know nothing about.
Logan Allen
Give the man a break, it was literally the very first woman, how would he have known that she would literally make his life miserable after meeting him?
Dominic Parker
I think Metatron and Tetragrammaton are very similar angels. The only diference between them is that Meta let's Tetra play God from eon to eon. Wasn't there a time Elijah went for a casual walk on heaven and saw Meta chillin on a bench and was so utterly shocked by his beauty that he thought there were 2 Gods?
Zachary Flores
Thanks, Im gonna incorporate him somehow. Either as an enemy but he isn't as tall as a 500 year journey, maybe something like 100 feet. or as a plot point where he really is as tall as heaven to earth. its said that he can reach from heaven from earth, so Im sure that information can be used somehow. Im probably just gonna make him a 100 foot tall enemy though, since there's not much an angel that big can do besides step on people from heaven lol
Juan Morgan
he already had one wife, Lilith, who fucked an angel and ditched him, he should have learned from that mistake
William Mitchell
Actually, those are seraphs, a tier above archangels. Whoops. Also, dominions features virtures, angels of the heavenly choir, angels of fury, harbingers, arch-angels, with Malakhs, chayots, ophans and hashmals on the more hebrew side (if I remember correctly). Plus all kinds of notable devils and shit.
Ethan Rogers
It's like God used Adam's ribs to make a woman that was dependent on man instead of making woman from earth.
Adam Jackson
Originator of Original Sin. They both may have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge (not an apple; stop being French), but he didn't try to stop her from eating it and then tried to play the blame-game to get out of trouble when God asked them about it.
Also, everyone went to Hell before Jesus died to pay for Original Sin.
Ian Butler
I really like The Seraph design.
Jason Moore
Have him be a colossus climb like something from God of War or Xenoblade Chronicles as the entire game takes place as you climb him to heaven, maybe?
Isaiah Kelly
Abel was killed because God made him his favorite adam kid, Cain got jelly and killed his brother
IIRC its because no one can sit down in heaven besides God, and Meta sat down to take a rest, and that was a big no no, pretty sure God punished him, or Meta punished himself when he knew how bad he fucked up
David Ross
And yet she still managed to fuck everything up
Isaac Scott
Also Abel knew what kinds of offerings God liked but didn't tell Cain about it.
Evan Fisher
>implying Cain wasn't trying to present an even better offering in the form of God's beloved child, all as a sign of his own even greater devotion to Him
Logan Wilson
>its because no one can sit down in heaven besides God, and Meta sat down to take a rest, and that was a big no no
Alexander Moore
I don't blame Cain then. That was a really shitty move on Abel's part. I also liked the part where God get's super pissed and sends Cain to wonder the Earth. Though, I suppose he was a liability to his family after killing Abel.