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garbage combat and ubisoft tier open world

Nothing.

The Witcher 3 is pretty much the definitive videogame.

Not shit.

>DUDE SEX LMAO

The open world design is literally ubisoft-tier in its filler and POI spam, and is further destroyed by...

...the loot system, which destroys any incentive for exploration. The weapons you find are worse than witcher gear you obtained 10 levels ago, and you get witcher gear from quests anyway so its not like you have to go hunting for them.
Money holds practically no value whatsoever, and the only loot you find thats useful is alchemy ingredients. Which would be fine if...

...the combat system wasn't so barebones and bland. Throughout your 150+ hour adventure, you use one moveset, 5 bland spells, a crossbow, some bombs and optional potions. The enemy and boss design is so generic and boring though, that using all that hify shit like potions and decoction is pretty much pointless. The biggest strategy is just to mash light attack twice, backhop, and repeat. A large majority of the enemies follow this mentality, and it never truly evolves into anything more meaningful. Why does Djikstra have the same moveset as a wild hunt warrior you fight with Keira?
The game even reskins and recycles enemies in paid DLC, and then dares to call them new ones with new beastiry entries.

The quest design is made for literal braindead children who can't think for themselves. Its obnoxiously yawn inducing because the "investigations" you do are practically you just walking around in circles and spamming X so geralt can shove some more exposition down your throat. It lacks depth, challenge, player activity and more than anything else, longevity. It never evolves into anything more unique or interesting, and it persists through the ENTIRE 150+ hours.

The main quest is basically super mario in poland, where Geralt goes around picking flowers, herding goats and helping every bum under the sun just so he can get the usual message that "nah bro, I don't know shit senpai"

cont

Combat was trash, the graphics were downgraded heavily for consoles and the plot of the main game was dull (though it was redeemed somewhat by the DLCs). It's a solid 7/10 though.

combat

>lost their best writers
>basic game paradigms were redesigned every year of development
>maximum casualization
>SJW bullshit creeping on the studio

Casualized for normies compared to previous games in the series. The combat is also terrible

Skellige is wasted potential at best, and the game rushes to its conclusion way too fast after Kaer Morhen. Novigrad and Velen use up a massive portion of time, and the entire point of those areas boils down to "your ciri is in another area that requires you to go through like 20 boring side missions before anything substantial happens"

The story sets up its stakes way too high, and thus makes side content break immersion to a major degree. Theres no reason why Geralt would go around killing nekkers for pennies when the literal end of the world was around the corner.

Speaking of which, the white frost, ciris powers and all of culminating at the same time is some of the most cringe inducing shit I've ever seen. Ciri can hop between time and space because "its in her blood lmao" and the white frost is just a prophecy of "dude lmao if it happens we all die lmaooooo"

Then at the end when you defeat Eredin (who is the most bland fucking villain I've ever seen, he has less lines than reskinned shopkeepers in Velen), the white frost just suddenly comes at the same exact time and Ciri defeats it somehow and everythings awesome and then yay the game ends.
Its rushed as fuck and I lost all my interest in caring about the characters during that arc.

HOS is the best content in the game, but it doesn't fix the gameplay gripes. The story is great however and has the only good antagonist in the entire game.

B&W is fine, but again has the same problems with its open world, quest design, enemy design, and even the main quest.

Overall the game doesn't have a single piece of good gameplay, and the only thing that comes close is the boss fight with Dettlaff.
Its worth experiencing because of things completely unrelated to it being a video game. You would get the same exact experience from just watching it on youtube for fucks sake, and even then it would save you money, time and most of all effort since you wouldn't have to wade through boring filler.

Uh oh, the marketers are here.

Monster nests and smuggler caches.

Your mother's abortion, troll.

Do you realize combat doesn't make a game good, don't you?
A game may have good combat and still be a worthless piece of shit.

But TW3 has trash combat, what is your point?

Nothing it's easily the masterpiece of this gaming gen with the most effort put into it

Nothing. Sold great, had a great story, quests and open world. It was also fun. The devs genuinely cared about their fans was another huge plus.

>with the most effort put into it
No, not really. GTA V has a lot more effort,money and budget put into it.

>The devs genuinely cared about their fans
If they cared about their fans why did they make the previous games , previous games choices irrelevant. Why did they butcher and retcon the books? Why didn't they release the modding tools like they promised they would

>SJW bullshit creeping

Witcher 2 had faggot dethmold and lesbian phillippa and whatnot

>sold great
doesn't mean fucking shit, CoD sells extremely well every year.

>great story
yeah "I dont know shit go there" "nope i dont know shit either go there" throughout the entire game looking for some slut is really a good story.
>quests
press X to solve quest is definitely fun
>open world
every secret marked on the map and 0 exploration

>The devs genuinely cared about their fans was another huge plus.
The devs only cared about making the most money thats why they dumbed down the game for the casual normies who have never even played the previous games. They made the game for the masses not for their niche fans

No this is witcher, I don't think there's a deus ex thread right now.

The opposite can be true as well

GTA V is a last gen game and the single player is shit

this gen GTA runs and looks better than Witcher 3.

> single player is shit
Nice oppinion however doesn't change the fact that more effort was put into it than Witcher 3. This is objective and measurable

The underlying problems of Witcher 3 can all be attributed to CDPR CEO being a greedy fuck who wanted AAA money. All of the problems in Witcher 3 can be pointed at that.

In Witcher 2, it was obvious PC was their niche so they went out and made the best possible PC game they could make. Although flawed it was still an admirable attempt.

In Witcher 3, they were now multiplat and vying for the same audience as Assassin's Creed and Batman Arkham games. So what did they do? They dumbed down everything. RPG aspects were more or less completely removed. Combat was made a shallow and clunky bore. All quests can be solved with cheat eye vision. And the marketing was the worst and most dishonest marketing campaign of all time.

Witcher 2 is hardly any less casual than 3, it tells you exactly where to go most of the time you just have to run in circles looking for a nekker nest here and there

Witcher 2 was kind of mixed. I mean they redesigned the game to be controller oriented. So they obviously planned to expand to consoles.

The game was supposed to look something like this before they changed it.
youtube.com/watch?v=JciyoGmnGyo

However the game is not really casualized. When it released it was way harder than the first game. It wasn't afraid to kick your ass, tuitorial was all in the menu, it had some puzzles, not EVERYTHING was marked on the map, some things you had to find yourself.

And the story, well Witcher 3 was typical AAA tripe. But Witcher 2 wasn't afraid, it wasn't afraid to be morally ambiguous, to push the boundaries.

So it was changed for controller and consoles, but the developers weren't too obsessed with mass markets.

i enjoyed exploring the world, doing the quests, and playing gwent all around the map, plus i enjoyed cashing out all the merchants I could find with my loot so I had like 200,000 by the time the dlcs came along, which allowed me to immediately enjoy the new content to its fullest. I didnt mind that it was on rails, the world was absolutely beautiful, novigrad is probably the best medieval fantasy city ever with the most lively npcs, wasnt perfect but it was an immensely enoyable experience as an alchemy build at least, i actually enjoyed leveling up potions and choosing dedoctions, looking up beasts to see their weaknesses, reading lore books I found around the map, its got a lot of content to get through so even without any replay value it was still well worth the price, i put like 300 hours into the main game+DLCs, just enjoyed being in the world and experiencing everything regardless of the lack of mystery in locations.
A solid 8/10 adventure, reminded me quit a bit of zelda at certain points, and I was honestly won over by the beauty of the landscape more than anything, damn is it purdy