Is the new Mercy OP?

Is the new Mercy OP?

yes, and she has to be

No shes perfect. The dive meta was getting stale.

Uninstalled 2 months ago. Are mercy mains still ruining game?

Just a bit. Shes by far the best healer in the game now uncontested. While she can't rez huge groups like she used to before, now she can keep up important members of your team like no other.

Before, you could maybe push in if you got a kill, or solo ult someone, but now if Mercy has rez off of cooldown or her ult ready, she can negate that absurdly fast.

Shes changed the tempo of the game immensely, making it even harder for shitty teams to gain momentum now.

Now she has rez on E but she can only do one person at a time

they've always been, that's never gonna change.
blame jeff for creating braindead heroes just so he can please the lgbt and female audience aiming to cash more money instead of creating a full skill based competitive online game that would only attract a more hardcore and smaller public

I somewhat agree but I think the other supports need to be on the same level as she is

Old Mercy Mains are fucked, the new Mercy needs you to be proactive, make the most of the properties of Valkyrie Mode and can't just sit in a corner waiting for a 5x revive.

But should she be necessary for any team comp while other healers are just nice to have?

>yfw the only period where this game was satisfying to play was on tank meta where ana, the only good and non-obnoxious support was the best supp and the only autistic rage inducing thing that would happen was roadhog's m2/hook into one shot combo


and we thought nothing could be worse than tank meta
and we thought nothing could be worse than dive meta

We were sadly mistaken lol

>tank meta

Yes, she should be necessary, as Mercy has become a "whole" character.
Lucio is also a whole character, with actual combat ability and useful support abilities that he can use at the same time while fighting. Besides Speed Boost being a god tier buff, his flexibility is why he has a near 100% pickrate in any serious composition.

Every other character in the roster is nothing more than one gimmick skill and an ultimate. They need to all be more flexible - more tools, more skills, a second weapon on hand, not some loadout bullshit and not shoved into a fucking MMO trinity role with their currently limited toolsets. Then you can get some actual composition variety. Also kill Ultimates, they kill variety and the idea of switching characters since you lose the meter.

>every meta is horrible

O gosh maybe its the game that is shit.

>ana or zenyatta finds themselves in a dumb postion
>they die

>mercy player is braindead and has bad positioning
>he can just shift away with his retard friendly 2sec cooldown escape ability

>Ana can heal/harm from an infinite distance away, and doesn't need to move into danger
>Can throw her grenade very far and use her sleep dart on reaction to instantly and completely shut down at least one enemy

>Zenyata can use all of his orbs from 30m away and they will stick for a while even after losing line of sight, also does not need to move into danger
>Discord Orb on whomever is attacking him gives him the power to fight back toe to toe

>Mercy needs to be within 10m of her allies to heal them, in the thick of a fight
>Her "2sec cooldown escape ability" requires line of sight to an ally in range and does not function otherwise
>Despite her persistent regen and an okay blaster pistol, she is still the flimsiest of the Supports

>does not need to move into danger
>''oh hey that healer is all alone all the way over there out of danger, let me just fly in real quick and murder them''
>''oh look, Mercy! Oh, she's over there now. Oh okay she's on the other side now. Wait where did she go? Oh there she is all the way across the map.''
Did you even play the game? Also, this game is garbage and no one should still be playing it. I will infinitely regret buying this garbage.

IT'S HIGH NOON

>Ana can heal/harm from an infinite distance away, and doesn't need to move into danger
>Can throw her grenade very far and use her sleep dart on reaction to instantly and completely shut down at least one enemy

So long as shes not interrupted by barriers, geometry, other players, and has line of sight, yes. She also needs to rely on aim and ammo count.

She also has no mobility as well, which means that she can't get into position quickly to take advantage of her long sight lines and can't escape if attacked.

Sleep Dart can shut down someone, however if anyone hits them they will instantly wake up again.

>Zenyata can use all of his orbs from 30m away and they will stick for a while even after losing line of sight, also does not need to move into danger
>Discord Orb on whomever is attacking him gives him the power to fight back toe to toe

Like with Ana, no escape means if hes attacked his only option is to fight back. Unlike Mercy, Ana and Lucio however, he doesn't have the means to heal outside of his shield.

>Mercy needs to be within 10m of her allies to heal them, in the thick of a fight

By thick of the fight you mean around corners, right? Cause while she requires distance and line of sight, her beam persists for a while even if she can't see her target.

>Her "2sec cooldown escape ability" requires line of sight to an ally in range and does not function otherwise

Also has a fairly large range, and dead allies count as well.

>Despite her persistent regen and an okay blaster pistol, she is still the flimsiest of the Supports

Untrue, especially with her new ult. In terms of survivability, she has the highest ability of the three mentioned. Since she has mobility options and a high regen that kicks in after a second of not being hit.

Pretty much, People will learn to deal with it but the ability resurrect a teammate every 30 secs will no "real" risk is pretty outrageous.

>no real risk
>you have to be on top of the corpse teabagging it to rez.

Ana and Zen don't have the mobility to put themselves into a bad position unless they are braindead and just keep moving ahead of everyone else. However, with that being said, Ana has sleep-dart and self heal to get out of a bad situation where as Zen does not. Zen really needs a buff down the line.

I thought someone might point that out, I was playing Senran Kagura PBS yesterday
If you wanna rez someone in that you have to stand right next to them holding the square button for 5~10 secs.
Not outrageously long more you're in far more danger than quickly pressing E (Or is now Shift?) near someone.

>tfw putting traps on enemy corpse as they die as junkrat

>Doesn't stay near the team and gets picked off by Genji
>Genji gets nerfed
>Cant listen to loud ass footsteps from roadhog and doesn't stay behind rein
>Roadhog gets nerfed
>Lucio is a more fun and versatile healer for pushing
>patched to do less healing
>Gets easily shot down by 76 when doing their gay phamercy combo
>76 DPS buff gets removed
>tfw most heroes gets nerfed cause most mercy mains are incompetent shits

every game the only healers i get on my team are like zenyatta or lucio while mercy is a 100% certain pick on every enemy team. should be a bannable offense/griefing to play a support that isn't mercy if there isn't already one; no point even trying in that case since every other healer is so much worse. nothing compares to a res

Its E now. Shift is still the dash.

While you are in danger on the rez, in all honesty you're in danger for maybe a second or two? You fly in, rez, and by the time the rez is done, your dash is off cooldown so you can hop back out again. The biggest danger in this time tends to be getting one shot, but at worst it'll just be a trade.

im super noob and in my lastest placement matches i used mercy 100%of the times. Results, 8 wins 1 draw 1 loss.

>use valkyrie
>fly
>die from hitscans

I don't really get it, should I just keep healing?

im too busy sucking tank dick to know

She's still OP but rez every 30s is a lot less cancer.

if you don't have a mercy on your team you lose, blizzard balance team sucks dick like always

I personally enjoyed the game more when she could pull off the 3 man or game changing rez. Now I find she's very annoying with the more sustained rez

Anyone who argues that mercy is balanced along side other supports is delusional or just a shitposter who hasn't played recently.

She is without contest the best support and not having her on your team makes it feel highly gimped, which is absurd, its fine to have some supports be stronger than others in different metas but a 30sec rez, 15s invuln and flying ult that lets her kill most 200hp heros with ease, that charges at the same rate as the old one, is just blatantly unbalanced compared to zen orb, ana antiheal, or lucio speed boost.
I look forward to her nerf soon.

>asking Sup Forums if a character is OP

People here think Junkrat is OP

You can't treat the ult like a nano-boost level invuln, you still need to avoid hitscan players if they're above plat tier since they'll just dink you out of existence. One of my main complaints with the ult is that she has so much mobility its easy for her to just run away at the first sign of this happening (other than a god mcrew with 2 dinks)

I also look forward to her nerf but I'd much prefer she gets only slightly nerfed and the other supports get a buff

Can't she rez 4 in a row in quick succession?

Rez right before using ult. Rez immediately after, rez again in 10 seconds. Rez again when the ult ends.

>Mercy before: annoying character that caters to lazy healsluts and cowards
>Mercy now: stronger character that actually requires some semblance of skill to play and not just mindless daddy-humping

The change was good, though the other supports do need a buff to compensate

She is.

Turning her ult into a cooldown ability was stupid as fuck
>But it can only rez one player at a time now!
So did the old ult in most cases. Even multi rez ults above 2-3 players were rare, and that can still be achieved with her Valkyrie insta rez cooldown refresh and 66% reduced cooldown.
Only difference now is that she can do additional rezzes in between ults.

People seem to forget how powerful reviving a player back to full health is.

>bronzeshitters playing nu-mercy gets as many resurrects as GM playing old-mercy

what the fuck

Everyone can feels like a pro now!

I'd rather deal with tempo rez over full team rez

Full team required no skill at all and simply relied on the fact that the enemy team lost a couple of people to overwhelm them on the point

Tempo rez brings back one person every 30 seconds, with the option for 3 if she pops her ult


The first one can simply let the enemy team be overwhelmed after a team fight and requires zero skill all around

the second requires nothing but skill and a bad team will not be saved by the mercy

wonderful isnt it? now fights last 5 times longer, you can only push the payload 2 times in 5 minutes, we can all thank papa jeff making the game more fun to play and watch

>slowly climbing to masters
>there's always one or two autistic dps mains on the enemy team that can wreck your shit no matter what you do
>new Mercy just sucks their dick and pockets them making them literally immortal
>the meta becomes just who can mash their face on the keyboard harder with basically no counterplay
>half the heroes don't even have counters anymore
>the entire game revolves around killing Mercy
This game is pretty retarded desu, I miss the old metas that had some semblance of reason.

The game is more fun now though

>mercy is fixed
>junkrat is fixed
>roadhog is fixed
>orisa is fixed
>reaper is fixed

And before you even start, no roadhog isn't shit now, he's actually fantastic, he just cant do his insta kill hook combo anymore, which is fine because being a one trick pony character was a crutch. Now he can move while healing and he can still reliably get kills with his increased fire rate

she has the best skins and guurls love playing as her. Blizzard should leave her OP if they value money

I think maybe 5 once ulted, but its not really the same as her old rez since you have to wait in between rezzes.

But will they nerf Mercy, or will she stay like this forever because the Mercy mains will cry if they nerf her?

>junkrat is fixed
If you mean stupidly OP, then yeah, he's fixed. Some heroes should never be viable.

Her ult actually makes her fun to play

>orisa fixed

fucking lmao she is shit compared to the other tanks

>the only period where this game was satisfying to play was on tank meta
Strike One

>where ana, the only good and non-obnoxious support
Strike Two

>the only autistic rage inducing thing that would happen was roadhog's m2/hook into one shot combo
Strike Three

Wow that was a staggering amount of wrong in one sentence.

Tempo rez allows her to keep up important players however. For instance, your tanks go down? Well, not anymore. Other healer goes down? Again, right back up again. This causes fights to be much more drawn out, especially once she ults.

Before full rezzes were somewhat rare, and singles to three rezzes were much more common. The new rez makes it much harder to initiate fights, since you need to get several kills in quick succession in order to even start pushing.

Yes. You literally cannot win if you don't have mercy and they do.

Wars of attrition are more fun than shitty flankers running around instaggibing people that can't fight back.

Idk but her tits and ass are OP and make my dick happy

>Junkrat is OP

Why is Sup Forums so fucking bronze holy shit

>full rezzes were rare
no that's not true, tempo rezzing was actually less common than 4 or 5 person rezzes

I agree with you that the cool down should be changed a little, for instance if you revive a 600 hp hero then maybe 45 to 60 seconds of a cooldown would balance that out and maybe 20 seconds for tracer and genji


Mercy now has to be in the fight instead of behind and can be killed during her rez. It's very easy to take advantage of this and kill her preventing any rezzes for a good enough time as to finish the engagement because they will either pull back or die if your team is the better one.

He's pretty OP now. He's recking shit in top500 and even used in pro play now. You can basically instakill gankers with little to no CD and block off chokes with ease. His ult is one of the best in the game now too.

Disproportionately I'm more pissed that her ultimate makes her some flying death angel when she's supposed to be a pacifist, which was the original justification as to why she only carried a shitty pistol into fights.

She can be easily countered by hitscan and their ultimates. A good nade and sleep dart can also fuck her up Ana/Hitscan main btw

>mercy
>pacifist
el oh el

So what this thread is telling me is that Blizzard has no clue how to keep a consistent meta

My buds and I have only played deathmatch since it was released because of Mercy mains.

I fucking hate how an entire class (defense) or certain characters (Reaper, Pharah) are largely ignored since fucking beta so they can keep buffing Mercy or Mei every other patch. I expect half assed nerfs since it's Blizz, but they could at least be less obvious about playing favorites.

>A guardian angel to those who come under her care, Dr. Angela Ziegler is a peerless healer, a brilliant scientist, and a staunch advocate for peace.
>Because her parents had been taken by war, Ziegler was opposed to the organization's militaristic approach to keeping global peace.
>Torbjörn provided assurances that [the biotic rifle] was only intended for healing, but Ziegler maintained that this was setting Overwatch down a road that could lead to the weaponization of biotic technology, and that she had only conducted research in the field on the condition that it would not be used for offensive purposes.

imagine being THIS upset by a videogame

>Mei

Bronze detected.

She's too OP for my DICK


HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH

He's right though. Most of the game's problems could be traced right back to Ana or Mercy.

Dual Ana allowed Infinite stall by tank and Mercy players being assfucked by double Tracer made them put the limit in place in an attempt get Mercy back in meta and get Ana under control.

Mercy enabled and forced the Dive meta because a slow push was made unviable by a Rez that can only be stopped by a few off meta heros or killing her before hand.

>he actually believes this

oh honey, I don't even know where to begin

>tfw fell for the overwatch meme
AND FUCKING LOVE IT

Theres so much wrong with this that I have to question if you even play the game.

What the hell is going on in this pic? I've wondered it since I saw it for the first time.

Also, the girl in the white shirt is T H I C C!

I think you're confusing overwatch for some game you made in up in your autistic imagination

He is right about the game mostly being fucked due to those two though.

Mercy and people playing that hero exclusively thinking they are participating in a FPS is a mental illness, and needs to be purged out.

While healers, and Mercy in particular now, can be a problem, its generally solved by having competent flankers and teams who know how to focus.

There were othere bigger problems in the game than the healers prior to this change.

Nothing is fixed retard
You can't make every hero just as viable when every hero differs significantly in skill requirement

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

more like actually balanced

>mercy main
>he
you realise most mercy players are shit cuz most mercy players are roasties right.

my boyfriend is a very good mercy main. he and I have a good relationship, fuck you

sorry, not just Roasties, Roasties and Faggots

trump likes the gays and roasties, what are you on about?

PharMercy got worse. Mercy main and I'm not quite a fan of it. I find myself just sitting on the Ult for a while just to get a double revive. I don't see a point to it otherwise.

use it to frag you braindead M1 slug

>Hated the invulnerability on the res before
>Hated how cowardly Mercy was encouraged and rewarded
>Cautiously optimistic about new Mercy
>Res ping pongs are now a constant
>Instead of hiding behind corners you hit Q and fly away
Yeah, she's now more proactive and more satisfying to play, but then you realise you're undoing damage, which is the opposite of fun.

Every single patch for close to a year made heroes more fun at the expense of fun for everyone else, and when they try to solve player frustrations they fail miserably like they did with Hog.

>dont have a mercy
>lose

That's how the meta is now.

>Also, the girl in the white shirt is A _ C H I L D D
Fixed.

The game feels a lot slower now. It used to be if you got one solid pick you could make your push because you had a solid advantage. Now unless that pick is Mercy herself it doesn't matter and you have to wipe half their team before you attempt to push.