should I start Persona, and if yes, with which one should I begin?
Should I start Persona, and if yes, with which one should I begin?
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persona 3 fes
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It doesnt really matter you can play in any order.
So far I played persona 4, 1 and now I am playing 3 for the first time. Plan to play 4 again for a better ending and grab p5.
5 unless you are already determined to play several games. If you are looking to be hooked into the series just play 5. It's a more modern experience and was a blast. There's no sequential story so you can just go back and play 3 and 4 and the others if you choose.
The first one: Persona 3 FES
Persona 3 fes
Persona 3 FES, but if you want to play it on a handheld, consider Persona 3 Portable. it doesn't have the anime cutscenes but other than that it's a fine port. traversing the world is more like point and click instead of literally walking but that's good imho
(it also has the better opening)
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Persona 3 FES. All the remakes in the world won't stop the first games from being awkward and confusing.
I finished Eternal Punishment and still didn't understand what created Daemon's until playing Persona 3 FES.
Persona 1
Don't be a pleb like all these 15 year old emos
Start with Revelations.
Yukatan's game.
Persona 2 innocent sin
Persona 1 is a legitimately bad game I'm afraid but IS and EP are both worth playing
No, go play a actual SMT. IV is good for newfags as other then the tutorial it's piss easy.
I liked persona 1, but the series has taken a different direction that it won't come back from. Telling someone to play persona 1 first as an introduction to the series is deceptive of what the rest of the series is and continues to be. Don't set him up for failure.
I actually did this, at the time I didn't know it was one of the worst localization jobs
Now I'm Super Guido
>worst localiztion jobs
The exaggeration that Revelations gets is staggering. There were name changes and redesigns but the rest of the script is entirely faithful. Let's not forget it also came out during a time where many localiztions would say fuck it and only half translate or not translate at all.
half the game is missing.
Play 3 FES, then 4 (preferably Golden), then 5. 4 and 5 made so many gameplay improvements that it's hard playing 3 after playing 4 and 5, so you should start with 3.
Start with Persona 3 FES
You can emulate it easily and it looks pretty great
It literally cut out SQQ, that's not a very good localization in my book
Aside from the general overarching themes - there are personas, the velvet room is a thing etc - there's no real plot linkage. Some background callbacks to previous games (A poster here, a small news report there etc) but otherwise you're good to start with any.
I personally recommend 3, 4 or 5 (1 and 2 are technically in the same universe, but there was a soft reboot with 3 and I personally prefer the gameplay a lot more from 3 onwards).
If you're starting with 3, play FES (Purely an upgrade) or the PSP version (The daytime environments are little more than a menu rather than a true 3D environment, but combat is improved somewhat and you can play as a girl if you want to date some boys).
If you're starting with 4, Golden is recommended but normal 4 is fine.
5 is just a really good game, and you're perfectly OK starting here. Just remember that if you plan to play 3 or 4 later, the battle mechanics in those may feel a lot less polished.
3 or 4 are a good start but play 5 last. The combat in 5 is so good the previous games will feel slow and unplayable.
Which is a point that's never brought up. Though entirely fair.
Interestingly, the very first few lines are translated so it must have been an issue of lack of time or manpower since Atlus USA at this time were a skeleton crew. Damn shame because now most will never hear the amazing soundtrack SQQ had on PS1.
So why do people recommend FES instead of the PSP version that is also easily emulated and includes controllable party members?
P3Fes,4,5,1,2IS,2EP,
I've only played Devil Survivor 1 and 2. Are the SMT games worth getting into?
>this meme again
We explained thousand times why p3p is worst on every persona thread.
Because P3P turns the game into a visual novel where you can't even walk around town, and there are no character models in scenes, just portraits and descriptions of what is happening. Also it's missing the epilogue expansion, and the combat was changed to be more like P4 but without rebalancing it.
P3P's storytelling suffers greatly from the VN format.
Most of the details from scenes are missing and there's also a few typos that leave you confused as to what is happening.
For example if you played P3P first you'd be missing many parts of the plot.
>EVER defending The Answer
Yes. DeSu's shit art and characters aren't a problem in other SMT games.
There's no reason not to start at the beginning.
>and the combat was changed to be more like P4 but without rebalancing it.
Direct commands don't change your damage enough to cause a balance problem. All you do is avoid the occasional wasted turn casting marin karin.
I meant to give an examole but got distracted midway through the post and forgot it.
An example would be stuff like Fuuka not needing an evoker for her Persona.
Which I never got to see until I played FES.
I don't want to spoil too much so I'll just say ypu'll be missing out on the story's full impact by choosing P3P
Rank the openings of p3
Fes>Vanilla>P30
You miss some small details but it's still clear enough to know what's going on.
The P4 combat system made it so that
>you can spam multitarget spells
>Your teammates consume hommonculus
Both of these make the battles either instant death or an immediate win
Persona 5 is the game you should start with. Most will say Persona 3 FES due to it's story and music. While I will not lie and say Persona FES is one of the top ranking ones. Persona 5 is meant to be a true introduction to SMT and Persona series as a whole. After that I would recommend Persona 3 FES.
Whatever you do, do not buy the PSP version it has no animated cutscenes, no extra costumes, the graphics are much worse than the PS2 version of it and on top of that there is voiced dialogue in FES. I would advise playing The Journey first in FES and then the Answer in that order otherwise nothing will make sense. The answer is shorter even though it is harder because you level up quicker and you get stronger monsters much earlier.
I would advise playing SMT IV, Apocalypse and then Nocturne. Beware Nocturne is considered the Demons Souls of RPG's and SMT IV is tough in the beginning dungeon.
You know that feeling when you recognise an user?
You're my nigga moonspeak Persona man
Sure, but those details make the story, by choosing text only you are seeing the most barebones version of it, and therefore not recievinf the full impact
>you can spam multitarget spells
You should have been doing that even if your teammates wouldn't.
Persona 3 and 4 to me have the most distinct feel to them. They're fairly shallow mechanic wise, flawed in the sense that shit like fusion and negotiation requires luck and you basically need a guide, and the monsters are recolors so you don't even get the joy of learning different monster weaknesses. But P3 and P4 feel like a neat little story. They're full with childish writing intended for the lowest common domino. But I still think they manage to both give off a nice vibe. They're stylish and have a neat soundtrack. Though in case with the soundtrack, you might want to mute it because it's a jrpg so you're going to speed-toggle through the battles if you're sane.
You could also just watch the four Persona 3 movies instead. They're really neat to look at.
Ayy, a kid played P5 and thinks he knows shit.
P3 is a fine entry point, I wouldn't suggest it as I hate the VN aspects but it obviously is where you should start with the subseries.
Nocturne is only moderatelt difficult, it's just hard for persona only fags.
>P3
>childish writing
>lowest common domino
I get it has some anime tropes but you can hardly say it's childish or was made to appeal to as many people as possible.
From a person that stated that speed toglled the battles I didn't expect anything else.
That's independent from party control
P3FES didn't let you use them more than once per turn, P3P lets you use them as long as you knock an enemy down, therefore letting you spam it, damaging and even killing enemies that weren't weak to it
Vanilla>Portable>Fes
I like the song in Fes but the scenes ruin it.
No I played Persona 4 Golden > Persona 3 FES > Persona 5. If you do not believe me then that is your opinion. I am only answering him on what is a good starting point for a beginner. Persona 5 has the nagotiation system that SMT has and also some puzzle elements that are familiar to SMT. But also it helps him understand fusion systems and explains more than previous games did. Plus the difficulty will help him be ready for the challenge of the past games.
Persona 3 FES while great and I agree completely. For new starters it might be a bit difficult to get use to because of the fact the dungeons are a bit complex and some sections can be hard. But if he plays Persona 5 he will have it mastered and then he can go from there.
Hey fuck you user
The thing is that although P3 has themes about death and such 90% if the game is you doing wack slice of life high school antics so it kind of is hard to take serious.
What console can I play all persona games? If not all the majority then
Personal Computer
Man the PS1 version looks so much better, I really hope someone makes a proper English patch for it some day. Like they could just copy over the PSP version script.
Besides computer? Want to play either relaxing on my couch or on my bed
That's kinda the point though. It's all about accepting the inevitability of death but still being able to enjoy day to day life. It's about enjoying the journey even though the destination will eventually come.
>Persona 3 and 4 need a guide
I beat both games without needing a guide. You just need to look at weaknesses, strengths, nulls and practically learn to grind early and S. Link certain people.
>Childish writing
Only 4 had that. 3 was much more serious which is why most recommend it. 4 did have its good moments though but I do agree it was a bit childish.
After playing P5 I decided to play in this order: P3 FES > P4 (I dont have a vita)> P1>P2
Well I think you can play it on PSTV it runs the PS2 emulator and also you can play Persona 4 Golden which is the better version of 4.
Vita can play them all. Persona 1 and 2/ports in PSP/PSone emulators built in, Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 with remote play if you have a PS4.
Is it easy to hack the vita?
Kill yourself Yasuda, literally the Nomura of SMT. Two hacks who can't design for shit, though Nomura at least can actually draw unlike Yasuda and his anti gravity tits.
Does SMT order matter at all?
All the vita is good for
Nope
Perfect order. You may want to play Golden though as it does add new events and music etc. Also would recommend s.link 10 Marie is it would unlock a secret dungeon.
Start right here.
It'll never happen man. Nobody bothered to touch up Eternal Punishment when all of Innocent Sin's tools would have made doing so a breeze.
Only fully hackable on 3.60, but you don't need to hack it to play all the persona games.
I heard it is hard to find a Vita so if I can get my hands on one I will since I rather have a portable device than a PSTV
Poorfag college student who rents so hardly any cash to spend on 5 games atm
Io is a good girl user. No bullying. Also fuck you
Well, you're shit out of luck if your Vita is above 3.60, then.
I'm currently at the end of P3FES (14 days away from Nyx)
Not using a guide, but there is one thing I wish I knew from the start. You can go out in the evening to the arcade and come back to study. I thought you had to choose one, so I never went out until like 1/3 through the game. I had low courage and charm early on.
It will take a while just to finish one so just buy one since it's probably like 20 something bucks and just save up
So you didn't do nothing in the evening?
If your computer isn't shit you can emulate 1-4. You can also emulate 5 if you have a supercomputer.
I'm just saying it has childish writing. Not that it doesn't offer anything else.
Yeah man speed-toggling through random encounters surely changed the impact on how I perceived the story. I'm sure had I've seen the same animations over and over again but slower I would totally understand just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
>I beat both games without needing a guide
Yeah. But you need a guide for the fusion mechanic as it's not all that intuitive. Again. You beating something without a guide doesn't really mean a thing. There's plenty of ways to beat a game to downright just getting lucky on your fusions first try. I'm not claiming the game is impossible without guides. Just that you don't really get an understanding of the mechanics without them.
That is a good idea either way. PSTV is good but Vita was great when i had it as well.
I studied, went to Tartarus, or slept early if condition was low.
yes, you should
start wherever, theyre not a continuous story
Except P1 and P2, which should be played in order because they have recurring characters.
Haven't bought a vita yet just asking if i do get one on offer up how easy it would be if it's at least 3.60
How can I emulate 5?
Literally the worst
Any nee US model one still being sold today is guaranteed to be under 3.60 because manufacturing of US units ended around 3.55. Used ones are a mixed bag and you need a bit of luck. Check Amazon for US models.
Is there a website like the 3ds that shows you how to mod?
I thought 5 was for ps4?
I started Strange Journey the other day and have been enjoying it as an introduction to SMT gameplay. Then I reached Delphinus, where the very first hidden enemy I scanned wiped my party.
You could use RPCS3 but I would not recommend it. I know there are people that shill it but the Framerate is 24fps in certain sections of the dungeons and you will need a good computer to run it. It will be a year or 2 before RPCS3 can get games to run at a stable 30fps and to be well optimized for PC's.
Better to just use vita?
henkaku.xyz, it's not even a process. Just go to the henkaku site on your Vita and click install
If it's possible to remote play do it.
5 was also released for PS3.
Play SMT instead, Persona is shit.
>all the games are mobile games
no thanks
Never played P1, tried to play Innocent Sin and it fucking sucked. So I say start with FES.
It's worth it to see how to gameplay evolves between 3 and 5. If you start with 5 you probably won't want to go back and play 3 or 4.
>not playing all MegaTen games
Step up, senpai.
>skipping the best game
really makes me think
>speed-toggling the core of the gameplay is fine
if you say so