What happened to large-scale fast paced fast moving FPS games like the original Doom, DN3D and Quake?

What happened to large-scale fast paced fast moving FPS games like the original Doom, DN3D and Quake?
What are some of the great games like it?

A new release called dusk is good.

Stop fetishizing skill you fucking shitlord

> What happened to
nothing. go play these fucking games if u want to faggot, theres tons of maps/mods as well...

>large-scale fast paced fast moving FPS games
>doom

????

fun was banned
you'll play your esports hero shooters and you'll fucking like it

New DOOM

Nobody wanted them, so they stopped being made.

Shadow Warrior and Blood are good.

Blood was kinda meh.

Dusk

>large-scale
dude what
quake and doom are taking place in fucking dungons divided into completely separate levels

>Blood was kinda meh.
What

*is nothing like the original

Thats why its good

I've been playing New Vegas with an increased speed mod, really plays a lot like Doom and Serious Sam if I'm to be honest.

Dusk is good.

But just go play Doom. /vr/'s thread literally just released another map pack that's apparently really good according to autists in the mapping community not from there.

dusk is better than nothing but shit

devs are retarded

Yeah, Quake is anything but large-scale. The maps in general are even smaller than Doom's due to higher interconnectivity and verticality instead of sprawling mazes of key-hunting.

Nigga I will blow you up to pieces with dynamite.

Doom and quake were revolutionary for their time, but nowadays doom is just a decent old school fps and quake is... a brown and ugly polygonal mess.
Quake may have wowed me as a kid, but it has aged like milk on a summer day.

As for why we don't have more modern equivalents, you can pretty much blame the cod base and every company using ideas and mechanics from them to get a piece of the pie.

For fuck sake, even duke nukem forever used the two weapon limit for some arbitrary reason.

Thank fucking God for that, X axis only aiming is the epitome of no skill.

>Quake may have wowed me as a kid, but it has aged like milk on a summer day.

It doesn't matter what game they make, Sup Forums will still call it shit.

pretty finely crafted bait, I like it

Go ask cliffyb

This

Multiplayer fps are what males money now. No one wants to out forth the effort and money for good singleplayer campaigns anymore.

-1l10

singleplayer fps are fucking braindead

They didn't go anywhere. I play Quake 1 and 2 almost every night online.

>forced to share a board with people that only played halfway through the SP on normal, and can't even bunnyhop, giving their opinions on arena shooters

>Quake may have wowed me as a kid, but it has aged like milk on a summer day.
>Doom is just a decent old school fps

you actually made me a little bit angry

nice work

he's probably just a /vr/ muh pixels autist that only plays singleplayer games and never even touched qw duel once in his life

>doom is just a decent old school fps

You legitimately annoyed me

>"i havent played any 90s fps on anything higher than easy"

you should try out lawbreakers

doom isn't even good, it's lame, primitive, the map design is honestly shit (wide horizontal levels with key stamp collecting), and if you think it's good you need to go back to /vr/ and play more lame mods

quake 1 on the other hand is and always will be the greatest multiplayer fps ever made, it's so elite that it is still dominated by the same swedish autists, the game takes an insane amount of skill whereas doom multiplayer is honestly comical

>max 12 enemies at a time

>391460682
Nice Bait

ARCANE DIMENSIONS!

The new releases of Turok and Turok 2 are also good, though not as fast.
Rune Classic is another gem, which focuses on melee, but feels very much like a more fast-paced Unreal.

doom is piss. the only people who claim it is good are nostalgic /vr/ memers that post edgy rip and tear memes who have never played fps on a high level.

you think you know so much about fps, challenge me. quake 1 duel. and you doomcucks will see who the alpha is.

I think Serious Sam is the closest you can get to those old games without sinking into the indie pit of basically copycats.

10/1
would reeeee again

yeah doom came out last year how is it "old school"

okay let's have controversial but actually interesting to discuss opinions

am I the only one who prefers Freedoom 2 over Doom 2?

i love the idea of freedoom but you're out of your fucking mind

Blood
Rise of the Triad

Nigga, for its time, doom was fucking groundbreaking and incredible. Even to this day, it's STILL a fun game, even if it's not as impressive as it once was. It has a variety of enemies with different attack styles, lots of neat weapons with specific uses (instead of 12 different assault rifles that work the same way), colourful visuals, good music, and lots of neat shit.The fact that it still has an active modding community to this day speaks volumes of its quality. I have much more fun playing Doom than most modern shooters.

Now, if you were talking about Wolfenstein 3d, you may have had a point. That game was hardly ever good.

Am I, though? A lot of Doom 2's levels were very focused on style over gameplay, Freedoom 2 found a way to merge both of those in a solid blend. It's earlier versions had some really, really fucking weird, and really, really fucking shitty levels, but outside of that I think it's become a solid project with great levels and gameplay.

>lets spam 100000 enemies at the player every 5 seconds and also put hit scanning enemies in a bunch of wide open places: The game
>good

serious sam is seriously overrated.

Yes. You need to get good to enjoy it. Playing on easy and then crying how the game is not challenging while you also got pwned is not a good way to play the game.

"for its time" is never a valid defense, cave scratchings were impressive for their time, but do they have any merit compared to a rembrandt painting other than as a historical curiosity from a more archaic time? no.

I mean he's not necessarily wrong. It's an overrated game with a pretty niche audience in comparison to other games like say, Doom, or Quake.

The game is pretty inferior in design in comparison to Doom and Quake, which isn't a bad thing necessarily speaking -- there's nothing wrong with liking it and having fun with it. The people touting it as some big, amazing game on the same level as other shooters like Blood, Duke, Quake, ROTT, and so on are overrating the fuck out of it.

Stop being terrible at games, you mong.

Did you miss the past where I said "Even to this day" and explained that it wasn't as impressive now as it once was?

>It's an overrated game with a pretty niche audience in comparison to other games like say, Doom, or Quake.

nobody plays quake 1 though, other than /vr/dads playing singleplayer one second for every year they spend playing through easy and gay doom mods

the multiplayer community for quakeworld could probably be counted on two hands at this point, game is a corpse

>What happened to large-scale fast paced fast moving FPS games like the original Doom, DN3D and Quake?

console shooters happened

But I like it more than all of those. Isn't that exactly what a great game is, though? Capable of having a niche audience that loves the fuck out of it. It found its niche just like Doom and Quake. I don't know a single person playing ROTT, though.

ASSFAGGOTS and esports happened, infected Counter Strike and metastacized into the rest of the genre.

Titanfall 2 is pretty fast, shame it's kinda dead.

(This is a trailer clip but it's perfectly possible in game, just not with this lucky timing.)

esports predates counter strike

>clean, geometrical generic sci-fi design with lots of post processing effects. Gee, where have I seen this before... And they wonder why it flopped.

I fucking hate this artstyle.

shooters were mostly a pc focused genre that got poplar when "modern" mouses became a thing
tiny boxes that limited the user freedom became a thing and they made a lot of dosh, now everyone wants a slice of that cake, guess what happened

UGH, CAN YOU LIKE, NOT, IM LITERALLY SHAKING, GOD, CENSOR THAT SHIT, I'M TRIGGERED YOU FUCKING BIGOT

>nobody plays quake 1 though,
>tfw you're nobody

Brutal doom is the best doom experience.
>prove me wrong

i'm referring to duel not singleplayer and faggy mods

It flopped because it was released between two of the biggest games of the year, CoD and Battlefield, not because of its artstyle.

The clean geometrical style is because it's a building block map (artificial battleground constructed for training,) a lot of the game is grittier. The post processing is because it's a trailer scene.

>m-muh dool
qw mp is laughably unbalanced
go sit in the corner with the other three players on aerowalk who refuse to move on to q3 while the rest of us have fun with finely crafted and engaging singleplayer experiences

its embarassingly obvious you have never played quakeworld duel
also nobody plays quake 3 anymore only CPMA mod which has fewer players than QW or Q2

i never liked quake that much but it aged just fine.

Okay, you're wrong. It doesn't reward skill, is a bloated piece of shit that runs on stolen code, and every niche it tries (and fails) to cover has been done completely better by many other mods.

Extreme lethality? Hideous Destructor.
Fast gameplay? Demonsteele, Project MSX.
Powerful, loud weapons? Russian Overkill, Guncaster.
Weapon variety and flexible player tactics? DoomRPG + RL Arsenal.

If you want gore, you have things like Nashgore, and HDoomGuy is working on a gore mod, which will probably work with mods that don't replace monsters.

Brutal Doom is popular for dipping it's fingers in every bowl at once, without actually bringing anything else to the table. Many other mods do what Brutal Doom does and do it way better -- see Project Brutality.

I enjoy wolfenstein 3D

lmao at doomdads like you

>move on to q3

nobody plays q3 anymore, vq3 is gay as fuck with terrible netcode, are you talking about ql? it's so obviously you never played any quake multiplayer seriously

fronting so hard, it's pathetic.

Quake Live is Quake 3 just for modern computers + better netcode.

same engine, just some gameplay tweaks.

triggered samefag/quakedads
>get red armor/lg
>snowball for 10 minutes
wow so engaging, amazing such a 'skilled and popular' game is so fucking dead that even id knew to choose q3a as their base for the new f2p shitfest
quake has the worst community of all time

it's called map control brainlet, you should try it sometime

>imbalanced as fuck games based not on skill but reaction times
>good

whoever initially spawns closer has the immediate advantage
less balanced than chess and just as solved

please stop embarrassing yourself user
dont worry someday you'll learn how to pickup yellow armor and set up traps

QL's gameplay tweaks change up play a good amount as well as the major netcode improvements. Double jumps/stair jumps bring it closer to Quake 2 in terms of movement which makes traversing around maps much easier as well as nerfed LG and RG.

so much better than q3a where you can just fuck someone up with the railgun from across the map on spawn, right

there's games made just for people like you, they're called dota2, league of legends, and csgo, I think they're more to your taste

>large-scale
I would describe them instead as dynamic and they kind of just got fazed out in favour of more tailored/gated experiences which kind of started with half life with simple triggers and scripting and went completely off the rails in the 7th gen.
some new ones trying to revive the old design are Dusk, Ion maiden (dunno when this is coming out) and Overload which is successor to descent (there have been a couple of impostors but this one is legit)
If anyone ever says old fps design principles don't work in shiny newer games show them Overload.
Nah that game is a complete joke

don't worry brainlet :^)))) maybe someday, you'll be able to reach that red armor on aerowalk

never give up! keep practicing. I believe in you. we all started somewhere.

shit taste

if the rg is so bad why did quakefags shit fury when it was nerfed

Overload/Descent is nothing like old school FPS games, stop posting those in these threads you fucking retard.

It is simple and fun.

never spent more than 7 minutes on a level without any action.

nothing wrong with it

Project Brutality is miles ahead of Brutal Doom, especially when it comes to weapon selection.

they're nu-gamers like you that prefer the instagib railgun and zero air control

It's one giant copy paste maze with identical colours, identical enemies, shit sound and shit music. I can actually rock/immerse myself out to non remixed doom music, and it feels good shooting stuff in doom. Can't say the same for wolf.

That said I am happy that you enjoy it.

>Descent is not old school fps
(You)

>Implying you fought more than 12 at a time in Quake or Duke3D

Is this what so many are REEE-ing at me about?
I thought it was obvious I was talking about the 1990's doom.

The rest that seem to have a raging hard on for quake 1, you people have a higher tolerance than me for incredibly dated and shitty 3d graphics, and believe me, that's saying a lot.

It isn't. You're a spaceship, not a person. It's an FSS.

What does that matter? it's just as much an action game as Doom or quake and certainly isn't a simulation game

Well made low-poly 3D will always look better and scale better than sprite-based games.

>dated and shitty 3d graphics
>not playing on high picmip setting for clarity until everything is just practically bland color pastel walls, just so you can see better in duels

get a load of this faggot.

>muh doolsguy is also an anime avatarfag
wew

must suck to be garbage at any competitive game that actually requires skill and effort, and resorting to rationalizing it

what's your LG? 15%?

Did this nigga really just say this?
Do you just not play any 2d games at all?