Would it have been the best game ever?

Would it have been the best game ever?

Maybe not the best, but it would've been better.

I really wish we couldve seen how it turned out.

Unironically yes.

van buren was a whig

Coleslaw is a salad consisting primarily of finely-shredded raw cabbage and dressed most commonly with a vinaigrette salad dressing

Entirely dependent on the writing.

It was supposed to be TB combat correct?
Then no.

It may have been the best CRPG ever but that is like being the tallest midget.
Sure it's nice but nobody gives a fuck.

It sounded really neat.

However the isometric real time combat sounded pretty awful IMO, and considering the other games in the series that tried the same, it would have likely been really bad.

I really wanted to see Dog City, the Dome, and the nuclear satalite, but sadly we'll never see it outside of design documents and leaked alpha gameplay.

Probably would have been like wasteland 2 with a lot more content. So a pretty good game probably.

It wasn't turn based

>TB is bad meme

It likely would've been isometric, so no

There was both a turn based and real time option, but the game's foundation was still built around the turn-based combat system.

And why is that relevant?
BG2 is also turn-based, so I guess we can't call it a great RPG.

Story would have been better than the one in Fallout 3, but then again Van Buren being cancelled and substituted by Fallout 3 was what allowed New Vegas to be made. So I actually think we got the best possible outcome.

Just ignore the underaged.

Hah, kids these days, I tells ya. Buncha knee slappers.
*chews on prunes and waving fist from porch*

Because isometric games look like and always will look like shit. It's awful to look at

>Awful to look at
>Still a million times more engaging and creative than what passes for RPGs in 2017
Get fucked, you prepubescent.

No, fallout should have died at 2.

You should have died at 2.

nope, Interplay was forcing real time, but turn based was going to be included, like Tactics.

Van Buren was going to be the best Fallout, no doubt about it. It had Caesar's Legion, NCR vs BoS, Mesa Verde, Denver, Hoover Damn, The Grand Canyon and The Nursey which was like that overgrown Vault in FNV, but it's own zone.

we would've had the old VATS, the old SPECIAL, tons of depth to the skills system, deception and persuasion as actual stats.

plot was evil scientist figures out the origins and purpose of FEV, wants to quarantine and cleanse the planet (again) with nukes from an orbital satellite.

damn

Yes. NV and 3 don't come close to the level or writing or player choice in 1 or 2

I'm still mad that we didn't get to interact with Joshua Graham when he was in his psychotic edgelord phase.

that plot is trucking retarded

glad it was never made

Plot outlines always sound stupid on paper. It's all about execution though.

>Fallout 1
>find a waterchip
>Then stop a supervillian mutant from infecting everyone with a steralizing mutation to make an army to take over the world

>Fallout 2
>Find a holy relic called the GECK to save your tribe from starvation, the GECK is actaully just a suitcase full of plans, information, and perserved seeds to help restart civilization in a post nuclear world
>Then blow up the last remnants of the united states government before they release a bioweapon to kill all life on the planet again

>fallout 3
>Find your dad
>Then help your dad find another GECK that is powered by holy radiation magic that can somehow purify water
>Then turn on a magical water purifier, when you can filter radiation through layers of earth to filter the water, which is canon from fallout 2

>Fallout 4
>Now you find your son
>there are 4 factions, 3 of which want the same thing, and you get to choose one and fuck over the other 3.

Van Buren also had something that would have been amazing, there was a second party in the game designed to be working against the player, and you'll occasionally run into that rival party during your adventures, imagine gary oak from the OG pokemon games, only with more RPG based mechanics.

Wasn't stuff and plans from the Van Buren project later used in New Vegas and Wasteland 2? Or so I remember.

Hard to say, honestly. If you look into the design documents, you can see a lot of really stupid shit that would never even have made it into alpha. A lot would probably change between the design documents and the final game, and we can't really know where it would have ended up.

I worry it would have ended up like Fallout 2 - a whole bunch of cool ideas, executed with varying quality, but so different that they don't even feel like they belong in the same world. I know a lot of people loved Fallout 2, but I didn't, so I don't care to consider that possibility.

I really love these classic early 3d graphics

Some of the elements were used, but not to their fullest potential.

Bolder Dome was reused as Big MT, Joshua Graham recycled, but not the big villain that he was supposed to be.

Nice shit opinions
Isometric is balls to look at

Yes.
For one, Joshua Graham and the Legion were supposed to debut in Van Buren.
The Legion was billed as the new, upstart faction trying to weasel their way up the ladder in the midst of the war between the BoS and NCR.
If Van Buren was successful, then Interplay was going to make FO4 centered around a conflict between a much more powerful Legion and a beleaguered NCR.

Some of it was recycled for New Vegas (and even Harold in 3 was likely adapted from VB). None of it went into Wasteland 2, which is a different series in a different setting from a different company.

Well, clearly people older (and wiser) than you didn't have a problem with it.
Sorry that you grew up in the wrong generation. Just be sure to never pursue a career in game design. You halfwits are the reason why games aren't so good anymore.

>nice shit opinion
>here is shit my opinion

*my shit opinion* Fuck my English.

I mean, i guess people were cool with shitting in holes in the ground centuries before irrigation but i doubt it would be something they preferred.

What the other anons said, but that stuff was just a very, very small part of what was meant to be in VB.

Nah it looked garbage

I'm glad it worked out in Bethesda's hands however

It would have been timeless no doubt. Its scattered remains mulched and dried into a tarp stretched over Bethesda's sorry abortion of an engine was still a fantastic game in its own right. Shame we can only ever imagine what the proper animal was supposed to look like.

>Van Buren also had something that would have been amazing, there was a second party in the game designed to be working against the player, and you'll occasionally run into that rival party during your adventures, imagine gary oak from the OG pokemon games, only with more RPG based mechanics.
Fallout 2 sort of had that with the restoration project and Kaga.

No, it would have been a ho hum tactical turn based RPG that would have been forgotten just like wasteland.