There seems to be a big divide between how a lot of people feel about The Witcher 3 versus how most of Sup Forums feels...

There seems to be a big divide between how a lot of people feel about The Witcher 3 versus how most of Sup Forums feels about it, so I want to know, without memeing, what you guys honestly think about it. A common complaint I heard is that the combat is simplistic and dull, and the writing has sjw influence.
I haven't played it yet so I have no idea, but I loved the first two games and this one looks gorgeous. However, I am a gameplay > all else guy so I mostly want to know if the combat will hook me or not.

it will not

Care to elaborate?

In terms of combat

Witcher 2 > Witcher 3

but Witcher 3 has much much more content. Probably 10 times as much. So... you can either enjoy Witcher 2's amazing combat or just skip it so you don't realise how bad Witcher 3's combat is in comparison.

I played the first two and loved them. I'm afraid of being disappointed by the third game

Witcher 3 can still be enjoyed for the story/characters/world/etc. It just has boring repetitive combat.

You could always just replay Witcher 2 with the FCR installed if you haven't. It's like an entirely new game with even better combat.

It has nonsensical designs like random loot, same monsters with different levels (monsters don't scale but in reality it feels like they do). Quests become repetetive after fucking 150 hours. The world is beautiful but empty. Main quest is meh, main baddie is fucking retarded. Most main battles outside first DLC are pretty bad. Combat is shit. It's ok game overall but has many flaws. I liked witcher 1 and 2 more.

if you enjoyed w2's gameplay/combat you should enjoy w3's.

it's one of the very best games ever made user. the combat is fine but not mindblowing. it's just so fucking immersive and vast and beautiful, the story is well-written, the voice acting is top notch, the game design and quests are excellent, no lootboxes, incredible dlc...
don't buy the contrarianfag circlejerk. it is worth your money and you should absolutely buy it if you liked the first 2. i don't even see much sjw influence at all desu. i don't think there's a single black person in the game. important female characters are all sexualized and most of them get dicked by the white male badass protagonist... you're not getting anything remotely like that in 2017

If you liked witcher 2 then imagine starting in main open world after tutorial white orchard. Go to first village and there is literally no NPC to talk to.

The game is too big for it's own good. Most dialogues are quest related. Everything is a quest in this fucking game.

In witcher 1 you could talk with some random granny on the street and learn lot's of tidbits, even learn about monsters. Here it feels artificial as fuck.

>no lootboxes
That's a lie though, the game is filled with random lootboxes questionmarks.

TW1 > 3 > > 2.
That's an honest opinion of someone who only started playing these games back in 2013.

no microtransactions is what i meant user

The side quests (specially the contracts) are the best part of the game. I loved just traveling around being a bad ass monster killer for hire.

Combat sucks. Rest is good.

I honestly enjoyed it a LOT.

For some reason The Witcher 2 left much more of an impression on me than the third even though I can't remember shit from 2. All I know is that, when I think about that game or when I watch its trailer, I get a feeling I can't explain.

It felt darker and didn't have a shit ton of side quests for you to get burnt out on which helped with immersion

The people who complain about the combat are the people who take the most effective things and only use it and ruin the fun for themselves. It's a fucking RPG you're supposed to role play, read your bestiary and equip the most effective spells/oils/whatever the fucks for each unique enemy instead of just trying to get the game over with as quickly as possible.

I really enjoyed the game I don't think the combat is bad at all, I don't know what people think is wrong with it. The story and the lore are great, the dialogue too and the characters are memorable, Geralt is a fucking badass without trying too hard. The side quests are pretty fun and getting the platinum trophy was actually enjoyable.

>The game is too big for it's own good. Most dialogues are quest related. Everything is a quest in this fucking game.

this honestly. The fact most of these quests also heavily involve 'witcher vision' and as a result are boring as shit outside of the cutscenes doesn't help either.

The problem with W3 is basically it has maybe the same amount of compelling content as W1 or 2 do, but its needlessly spread out over a fucking huge wasteland filled with ubisoft style filler and arbitrarily placed high level enemies guarding level scaled loot.

>TLDR; the graphics carry the game because the gameplay does not

>Combat sucks.
no it doesn't. It's the best combat of whole series.
fite me

If you liked Witcher 1 and 2 there is no reason you wouldn't like 3.

Where does the writing have sjw influence? Is it because there was a faggot? How is that sjw?

kek, thing is it's witcher 3 you absolute faggot, doesn't need defending in any form at this point

> A common complaint
> the writing has sjw influence

What planet are you on? I love the Witcher series. Playing the first 2 games while reading books, then going into TW3 was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. That being said, the game is far from perfect I understand that the combat isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't think it's particularly shallow.

Other than the downgrade, I'd say the worst part of TW3 is how repetitive it's quest design. Following a breadcrumb trail isn't what I'd say complex, and it can get old after the 60th hr. Now IMO it more than makes up for this in lots of other aspects of the game.

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>Divide
TW3 is fantastic

Combat is meh. One of the few single players i've finished during the last 5 years so it's a masterpiece in my books.

Game is a fucking 10/10 I don't know how people could even complain about the combat, it isn't that big of a deal.

booted this game today for the first time in about a year and I couldn't get it to run smooth. Kept feeling like it was stuttering or had bad slowdown no matter what I did. At one point I through everything on low settings and had fraps on just to see that I was at or above 60fps at all times, but it felt like I was at 15. Is this a thing from a recent update?

Rig:
i5-3570k
8gigs ram
r9 380 2gb

I know the gpu isn't great, but I used to play fine

Here's how it breaks down on an objective level:

Are you remotely critical of any aspect of games? The combat, the controls, the world design, the progression, the level construction, the rewards, the story writing, the graphics, etc.?

If so, no, you will not like The Witcher 3. It does literally none of those things well.

If not, and you are completely uncritical or just never ever notice anything about the quality of a game, and just play it and turn your brain off for the duration, then it will be your 10/10 RPG of all years because it looks kinda pretty and has a lot of stuff to do.

That's it.

Witcher 1 > Witcher 3 = Witcher 2

I love open world games because my favorite thing to do is explore and look in every crack and crevice of the game for some surprises — loot, hidden quests, secret locations, etc. In that respect, Witcher 3 appealed to me tremendously. The world is enormous. Some people dislike that. I do not. There isn't something to find in every square foot. Some people dislike that. I do not.

I really enjoyed Witcher 3. There is so much to do, so many quests and side quests. I play these games like a hobby. I don't stress over minmaxing and such. I go about it like an explorer in a new world. I just go. I follow the first road I find and take it from there. I explore the first location I come to, I speak to every NPC there. I just let the game take control, and I make due with whatever comes. I remember learning from an NPC about the location of a certain kind of armor upgrade, which I then set out to acquire just because why not.

As far as the SJW stuff, I'll be completely honest with you, I don't recall anything that implied SJW. I can't imagine you would be disappointed with this game. The world is rich with quests and locations. The combat is more than adequate. I really enjoyed the combat because there are several ways to defeat enemies, and I like having that creative option. By the way, I'm playing on a beast of a machine and I get between 100 and 135 fps at 1080p on full ultra with Witcher 3 but this game does have some beefy requirements. Make sure you consider that before you buy.

The combat is ok in and of itself, the problem is that it can't support the size of this game, you will become burnt out and OP if you regularly tackle side quests or hunts.
The combat works best with multiple enemies but even this scenario will become easy, single enemies however turn into a complete and utter joke, even on the highest diffiuclty you will be able to take out an enemy of far higher level if you simply have the patience to whittle down it's health. The game is ridiculously easy to abuse and you will have to employ some serious self imposed restrictions to get any fun out of it.
My advice, barely do any side quests and just focus on the main quest.

Combat is good, play it on Deathmarch. It's a slower batman arkham game but you don't get your hand held, enemies stay dangerous unless you grossly outlevel them or you start hitting endgame. You can cheese skull+ enemies, enemies who outlevel you, with Quen and poking among other things but its an open world game. I've yet to see a single open world game where you couldn't cheese the combat somehow and someway. In terms of what you need to do to keep combat fun, just don't use Quen and don't be a Sign master, but some enemies have some pretty bullshit hitboxes (golems) so you may want to keep it up for them. There's respecs too if you want to pursue the sword (meh) or alchemy (lol).

World building and quests are a step above the competition. There are "fetch quests" but they're rarely ever any true throwaways that don't expand on the world or your roleplaying of Geralt. In terms of design, people complain about the "press detective mode to progress" but it's a fuckin open world that's built for realism. If there was no detective mode, people would just complain about trying to find that rat poop in the corner.

Combat is fun but definitely clunky and has its flaws. Witcher vision is a poor game design choice but I can look past it. The rest of the game was pretty good, especially the DLCs.

Sjw? There are no black people in the entire game

It’s the best rpg ever

the mechanics of the game were total ass. Level ups, skills, crafting, pointless trash loot, sailing around, cross bow, Everything felt so half ass.

oh yea and the lazy nigger monster trophies. I don't know why they even bother putting those in the game.

Never played it, don't intend to since eurofantasy settings don't do it for me anymore

As a fan of the first 2 games, TW3 was a huge disappointment. You'd have to be a complete brainlet to enjoy it.

The story is pretty nice, i like some of the quest shooting shit, some of them being quite serious, touching some delicate subjects
The love aspect is, eh, it's allright mostly because the girls are pretty nice, although after HoS Shani becomes best girl.
Graphics are great
Music is really great
Combat is, in my opinion, a simplistic version of something you'd find in DS, which is "parry/block/dodge until there's an opening, then attack" with the added bonus of signss actually shaking things up a bit, which is allright, but nothing special.
The world is really well maade, i especially like the fact that a big city is a big city and not 12 houses and that's it. Even if you have to run around, it really makes you immersed in the game.
Ciri is a bit of a Mary Sue, honestly, but it's not really glaring.
I guess one big flaw of the map is that there's so many places you can go to, the question marks, but in the end they don't give you anything unique, just some randomized stuff, which iss disappointing.
Overall a solid game i really enjoyed spending my time with.
I'm also a pollack.

the combat bored me so much, I couldn't continue after about 3 hours.
you just do it too much for me to be able to forgive that...

it's shit and anyone who says otherwise is most likely a shill

matter of fact, this is the most unironically shilled game i have seen in a long ass time

Maybe it sucks slightly less, still sucks though, couldn't play that boring shit.

too fucking good to get milked, ended perfectly and the based eastern euro devs know it.

Am I the only one who thought that was 2B in the thumbnail?

>does none of these things well

I'll agree on the combat, controls and progression. Combat seriously lacks depth, controls are wonky and unresponsive at times and progression involves too many level scaling and not enough actual diversity in upgrade paths. But are you honestly going to sit there and tell me the world building, story and graphics are not great?

Moving from town to town and region to region there are massively different atmospheres, you learn about different cultures, nations, and ongoing conflicts. The world of the witcher 3 feels alive and vast, with massive amounts of history to explore. The story is one of the best in recent memory, even many of the sidequests are more fleshed out than main storylines in other RPG's. Graphics, while downgraded from the E3 presentation were among the very best of that time, both in pure engine capability and aesthetically.

OP don't listen to edgy wannabe reviewers like this.

It's bad compared to good action games.

>Sjw influence
Sjws hate this game because there's boobs and white people. The political commentary on race goes right over their heads, because it's elves and dwarves (who are white) being oppressed, rather than black people.It's very true to the novels, which are great and really add to the experience.
^ Pretty much this. It's Skyrim with writing. You should really play the first 2, or at least read the books if you want the best experience.

I have over 200 hours on this game, I cheated from 40 hours in to have things like fast transport and stronger weapons and most importantly the infinite inventory weight because combat is sluggish, have loads of options that deal little difference in how to play if you don't like to use bombs and potions, I just wanna a good sword and slash enemies.

Witchers strong points for me is the world, the people, how they play out the story* and how they tie them together in a cinematic kind of way with how the conversations all have cutscene-like way to it.

I haven't played the first one, and second games didn't even last me 2 hours before I was bored, because the inventory system and equipment system was meh, and the combat was lackluster after coming out of a DaS mega marathon, but I feel W1 and W2's story is just as if not immensely more intriguing than W3's simplified story.


* = Doesn't mean it have to be good, just that they made a lesser story more interesting.

I think it's yet another example of trash modern RPGs that don't allow for any real choice or discovery because everything is handed to you.

i enjoyed the story, the characters and the world. but i find geralt to be an incredibly boring personality, but perhaps that's the intention: to allow other characters to shine more. my greatest gripe is the combat. it's floaty, impersonal and overly choreographed to the point where geralt just seems to be dancing about during combat. it's an annoying contrast to the clumsiness of the souls series that i couldn't get over, so i only have a few hours played in the witcher 2 and 3, even though i recognise that they're good games

The combat is what ruined it for me. Played for about one and a half hours on my friend's playstation and it bored me to death.

Too much uninteresting plot. Combat's pretty good, but it doesn't feel like the focus, and I hate how the menus and HUD elements are handled. It just made me want to replay Dragon's Dogma or Fable.

Play it on PC and use mods so you don't have to waste too much in the combat, because the world and story is way better.
Combat is a game breaker for many in this game.

That sounds like a very bad solution to me when I could just play a game with actually enjoyable combat. If I just want to get immersed in a good story I'll read a book

I like visual and vocal representations of stories though.
The closest thing to reading a book for me is audio books.
Currently re-"reading" The Dark Tower.

>In witcher 1 you could talk with some random granny on the street and learn lot's of tidbits, even learn about monsters.
No you couldn't.

>In terms of combat
>Witcher 2 > Witcher 3
It's the same except in the former you can only roll rather than dodge and roll.

I enjoyed it for what I played of it, but like all open world games I completely lose interest before I even finish the story because I dick around too long doing side quests and wear the game out

>It does literally none of those things well.
It does all these things well. It doesn't do a few of them great. I think it's your metric that is the problem here.

To all these people who complain that Witcher 3 has bad combat and ELEX has bad combat and Skyrim has bad combat and Dragons Dogma has bad combat, and so on, tell me please which games you think has excellent combat.

I like it simple, and where the player control most of the way your attacks are dealt.
W3 is a dance where you have to use different potions, Dark Souls 1 is a simple but satisfying.
Sometimes advanced isn't better.

>inb4 demon souls or any of its derivative children

>He thinks skyrim doesn't have bad combat
There's no movement, there's no timing, there's no rhythm, it's just power swing until you're out of endurance and then light swing

I think it's exactly the same kind of game as Skyrim. Perfect for casual players because it wows them with pretty graphics, idealized anime characters, extremely simplified gameplay and RPG mechanics and having a huge landmass to pointlessly walk around in, but everyone who's more invested in video games will find most of those things a turn-off, and all the design elements to be just badly executed, and see the game as an incredibly shallow and disappointing piece.

>idealized anime characters
wat

Looked amazing. Good enough story. Played like shit. Shitty skill tree. Crafting boring as usual. Goddamn did it look amazing though. Witcher vision was godawful and was a shitstain that covers the entire game.

Geralt and Ciri are good examples.

Except that Witcher games always have basic as fuck combat because they are all about world building focused.

Same goes for Trails in the sky and Cold Steel, one having laughably basic turn based combat and the other is straight up imbalanced to the point of stupidity.

What's an example from Skyrim?

No idea, I didn't do the main quest in Skyrim.

So it isn't like Skyrim, then?

>comparing DD to Skyrim and ELEX
What's it like being a fucking retard?

It is like Skyrim. It's not a carbon copy of it, it's similar in that it's designed by a committee to appeal to casual players. Skyrim also never had cutting edge graphics.

W1>W2>W3
Search your feelings, you know it is true
but you could
why are you spreading fake news?

At least you two aren't afraid to admit it. I guarantee you all that 99.95% of all the people who complain that Witcher 3, ELEC, Skyrim, Dragons Dogma, etc, have bad combat are just Dark Souls fanbois who want every game to play exactly like their Dank Souls meme game.

The post I quoted said it's exactly like Skyrim, then listed a bunch of qualities it and Skyrim share.

The vast majority of witcher 1 npcs only give a canned response. You aren't exploring dialogue trees with the nameless characters that serve mostly as set dressing. The same is true of 3.

Neither is there anything wrong with NPCs being tied to quests. This sounds like NV criticisms that all the dungeons are quest related, unlike Fallout 3, where you can explore non-quest related dungeons. As if traipsing though a place is meaningfully different if there happens to be an authored mission aligned with it.

Actually, I not very vocal and I don't bash games I haven't played much, but I consider 40 hours of vanilla W3 be be enough to warrant trying other means to how I want to play it.

I haven't played ELEX, DD so I can't voice a valid opinion on those, Skyrim is kinda sluggish though, but that's just Bethesda I guess.

I also dislike the whole DaS community because how immature they are against everything that isn't muh tryhard.

Dark Souls ruined melee for me since it was just how I wanted games to play with swords, and I fear other games while good will feel lackluster because of that.
Kinda like buying a shitbox that isn't made anymore, yet have just the perfect handling and quirks no other car have.

Combat is actually very solid for a story RPG
I know it's shallow but it's smooth, well balanced and Death March is well tuned for punishing fight without damage sponge

Do you have a disability or did you just not make it out of fifth grade? If I told you right now you're exactly like the retarded person living 3 houses away, it would not mean you look like him, dress like him, smell like him and have the same hair style, voice, skin complexion, hair and eye color.

Sup Forums hates it because it's popular. Sup Forums says it's bad because of the combat but still praises games with worse combat. Don't listen Sup Forums
Combat is not bad but simple and can get repetitive. It's not bad though, I'd say it's above avarage

It absolutely would if you listed those things immediately after making that claim. Do you have zero grasp of language or syntax?

TW2 and TW3 are consolized trash.

Certainly above average for the genre

The only thing even remotely SJW is a tansvestite Elf who turns out to be a prostitute propositioning you for sex, but turning doen the Elf dick is not the renegade option like Mass Effect.

People who hate the combat are shitters that get wrecked by drowners, hence the whirl to win meme; it's the only way they know how to win. You can easily beat elementals that are 20 levels above you with proper resource management.

>Dark Souls fanbois who want every game to play exactly like their Dank Souls meme game.

does that invalidate their preferences and opinions?

Absolutely dreadful combat that ruins an 80+ hour game

Rpgs must get rid of invincible dodge rolls.

>game x is a factory product for casuals just like game y
>here's why it's for it's for casuals
>WOW BUT GAME Y DIDN'T DO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT GAME X DID BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE MR. PERFECT GERALT IN THERE SO THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT

That's something you should be asking yourself, really.

>sjw infuence
The divide is portrayed realisticaly. It doesn't present the oppressed minorities as saints nor the humans as heartless monsters. Both sides are doing some pretty shady stuff. Also the game offers choice and it doesn't force a message down your throat.

>dull combat
It can get repetitive so I suggest you play on the higher difficulty because you will be forced to prepare before each battle and to use signs and potions more often. It will also make runes useful since on lower difficulties you can just ingnore their existence

The combat is a weird mix of Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed.

Honestly the combat is nothing special.
It's fun but nothing complex, the world is massive and theres a ton of shit to do

Combat is pretty shit. I basically played the entire game spamming igni, stepping back, hitting the enemy, and then repeating for the entire game. I RARELY even used potions or anything like that.

That isn't what you said. You said it's exactly like Skyrim, then listed a bunch of things to expound on that claim. You didn't say it's exactly like generic casual-preferred game. Which is why I asked if you actually understand how to form sentences in a manner and sequence that conveys the things you mean. You still don't seem to grasp the important distinction between what you said before and what you're pretending you said now.

Terrible combat, terrible skill trees, and Batman vision turn the game into shit.

It's Skyrim 2.0 for the same casual retards who ate that up.

The problem with the combat is enemies are never given any tools to defeat you. Dying to humans should never happen, all big monsters require a dodge to the left. There are alot of reused designs. Howler, Fiend, and a few others. All the flying ones look the fucking same, and as far as unique attacks I think only the Basilisk gets a unique poison attack. I don't think the Griffin or Wyvern have anything unique between them, and do the same attack animations. I think the lack of tools shows itself the worst in boss fights, which are a joke

Bomb build is super fun, magic build is pretty OP but also fun, sword/melee build is OP and not fun. Spin2Win gets old fast.