Sup Forums how the fuck did they manage to make this game worse than TNO
>Less weapons overall
>Weapon altfires are locked behind "upgrades" that you need to find hidden "upgrade kits" for
>New Map makes it basically impossible to explore levels effectively
>Weapon wheel is shit tier
>Environments and fog effects make it fucking impossible ot see enemies sometimes
If it's any indication, the game's file size is only about 2/3 of TNO
>>Weapon altfires are locked behind "upgrades" that you need to find hidden "upgrade kits" for
That doesn't sound too bad desu.
haven't played the game, why do you hate this feature? How is that different than finding new weapons / ammo types?
It has to do with the worse exploration due to the shitty map. Weapon upgrades are hidden around levels and thus there is a very finite number.
If I want my Pistole (which is worse than TNO, no burst fire) to have a supressor I have to use an upgrade kit.
If I want faster reload, there is no perk for that anymore, I need to use an upgrade kit.
It basically makes guns boring (and the more limited number of them) unless you find this shit.
are there still perks or has it all been replaced by upgrade packs?
Also adding onto this:
You have 5 normal guns (that arent heavy weapons). They are as follows
Single shot pistol
Veryfast SMG
Assault Rifle
Auto-shotty
and your welding lazer.
Weapon variety is kinda shit too, no marksman's rifle and no machine machine lazers, and no magnum in site.
There are perks but they're boring. Essentially they are now incrimental upgrades to things like doing more damage when using ADS. Or moving faster when crawling that scales as you do certain shit more.It's basically just continuing unlocking tiers of stat upgrades.
damn. perks in TNO were really fun.
The gameplay is one of the worst I've seen in single player shooters. It's stupidly unbalanced.
Define Balance in PVE. If you think shit's too easy you turn up the difficulty. If too hard you turn it down. I guess I can kinda understand if you mean the weapons are unbalanced.
In anycase I'd still put it above any CoD or Battlefield of recent years, not as good as DOOM or TNO
>5 normal guns
>When both TNO and Old Blood had the same amount (on person) and more in general
What the fuck were they thinking?
Is the fog as bad as Old Blood? In that game enemies were literally indistinguishable from the environment past about 10 yards indoors.
that TNO was such a success that we'd isntantly eat up whatever they put out next.
For some reason progression systems make everything fucking better.
I'd say its worse than old blood, but i didn't notice any fog issues when playing it.
Enemies are moving too fast and never stop. They shoot you the microsecond they see you, that's the sign of a cheap gameplay already. But then they also attack while moving and their aim is not any worse at that. This leaves all the strategy out of the window and force you to twitch shoot everyone as soon as you seen them hoping to kill them faster than they kill you.
And I'm not talking about the dark environments full of visual effects where you can barely see enemies, claustrophobic levels and grabbing items with basically running around and mashing E because you can't see what you're taking and have no time.
I feel like that's less "balance" and more "AI design" if anything. Second of all, playing on the hardest difficulty half that shits not even true. They are completely handleable, the only issue is how fucking fast u can die if you get blind sided. There is an obvious time when they see you and when they shoot a good full second I dare say.
Also armor and bullets are autopickup in this game (for better or for worse).
However I will agree the level design is certainly worse than TNO
Finished it a few hours ago, not sure what the fuck they were thinking. Gunplay is underwhelming, levels are horridly unbalanced and the plot was fucking abysmal. Literally everything was done better in the new order.
Not a bad game per se but a huge downgrade from tno and tob
What did you clock in at about? Did you try and explore, and what difficulty?
So far I'm well over "6 hours but that might be because I just die a fuck ton on the high difficulty
Does anyone wanna spoil what Max and Fergus are up to in this?
...What about that sticky-bomb gun, the diesel-thingy? Or the grenade launcher from the trailers?
>Made by Swedencucks
there's your problem
Fergus/Wyatt is just kinda around. Basically just being there, they are pretty minor characters in this
You should've seen it coming when they tried to take advantage of political controversy to market the game. Anybody with a brain in their head should've seen that as a sign they were getting a big pile of nothing dumped on their plate. Name me one game that tried to be political with its marketing that wasn't like this.
No sign of it so far, grenade launcher is one of the heavy weapons you can find
>Magnum = Pistol Upgrade
>Marksman Rifle = Assault Rifle Upgrade
Have you actually played the game, user?
Get the fuck out Sup Forums nobody wants you here.
>sticky-bomb gun, the diesel-thingy
You get it if you're on Wyatt timeline instead of LKW IIRC
Because they only care about how to cater to their political "narratives".
Didn't I warn you before? user?
The scope damage upgrade are nothing compared to the marksman in TNO, not to mention it feels like shit too, same goes for the "magnum" upgrade on the pistol
Ah, it's the 'dieselkraftwerk'. You get it in the U-boat level.
>M-muh Sup Forums
TNO didn't have a magnum, right?
>expecting quality from Bethesda
I don't know how I feel about having weapons exclusive to different timelines....
Piss off Sup Forums, and take your "narrative" crap with you. We're talking gameplay here.
Better than having different lock-picking mechanics...
There's another thread full of you shits, go fuck off over there.
press foward on linear corridors and press r1 to shoot
its just some stupid shooter whats there to talk
I think its shitty, the weapon variety already was garbage, why limit even further with that shit?
The weapons you get vary per timeline.
>Fergus: Laser-gun + Heavy grenade launcher & Machinegun
>Wyatt: Diesel-gun + Heavy Laser beam & Diesel cannon.
It encourages you to play both timelines.
It's fucking dumb. Why not just have all of it in both? The story beats are gonna be barely any different probably not at all judging from Fergus' contribution to the plot so far.
i liked tno so much. it's a shame sequel is shit
I think there's enough kits to max out all weapons, if you get them all.
Good luck finding them all with the garbage new map
It's not shit it's just, not as good. despite what some Sup Forums shitlords will say and spread rumors about
if TNO was a 10/10 TNC is a solid 7.5/10
...just follow a youtube guide, man.
I like that rifle from The Old Blood. Why did they remove it? I miss occult shit and spooky demons. Where are european castles or villages? It is nothing but bunkers and labs for fuck sake its sooooooo booooooooring.
so since tno was like a 6/10 this is about 3.5/10
got it no buying
>if TNO was a 10/10
it wasn't
Yeah because I wanna follow a youtube tutorial for every level to find every little knook and cranny.
That's lame and gets rid of a lot of the fun.
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What's your goal from being an ironic shithead? Just go back to Sup Forums and repost a "rural/suburban retard" thread if you want more (You)'s
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What wasn't there to like about TNO, seriously? That was some of the most satisfying visceral shooting fun I've ever had. Best shooter to had come out in fucking ages since CoD style bullshit tookover
>#shepersisted
Still can't believe supergirl named an episode after that with Agent of shield also mentioning it.
Ignore the retard, talk about the game
>despite what some Sup Forums
try harder you pathetic retard
the gameplay and level design
Bethesda was only the publisher though.
It was alright, but then DOOM came and blew it out of the water. You'd think they learn from that and improve wolfenstein, but they didnt