Steam Refunds

Is it against Steam rules to buy games merely to try them before refunding, if no demo is available?
Does anyone here do this?

>buy a pizza you never tried before
>eat half the pizza
>take it back and say "no i changed my mind"
>expect a refund

Or, now listen user, or you can just pirate the game

>food analogy

>food analogy
like clockwork

>food
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Technically yeah but its kind of bullshit since they give us no option to demo games or evenb know if a game will even run properly on your PC.

For the most part, but if it's an indie game or something where I feel I want to support the developer and would buy it if I liked it, it's just easier to buy/refund than torrent, mount and move crack. Also some lesser known games are hard to find torrents for, at least updated versions anyway.

Yes. it specifically says so in the rules, but if you only do it once or twice nobody is going to stop you.

Who pays for the transaction costs? The publisher/developer or Valve?

No, no, no.
>buy clothes
>store doesn't have option to try clothes on
>have to buy it without trying it on
>doesn't fit/don't like it
>return clothing to the store

>Yes. it specifically says so in the rules
Seems bullshit that it's against the rules to refund a game if you don't like it. Without a demo, how could you possible know? (legally)

it's more like
>buy clothes
>wear them for a day
>return them

Only reason Valve even did this 2hour/14day refund policy is because they don't want to pay for actual customer support that could check if people have a valid reason for a refund. Also because EA/Origin was shouting about their 24hour/7days refund policy.

If you walk out of a movie after 20 minutes nobody is going to give you a refund either.

I feel the analogy actually works because you can't try the clothes on in the store, because Valve clothing inc. is bullshit. So if they don't fit very well or look awful on you once you can actually try them on, you can refund them if they retain the labels and receipt. (In this instance, being the 2 hour period)

>nobody is going to give you a refund either
Literally all you have to do is ask. They will give you a refund.

i seriously don't know why they can't do demos like they do with free weekends, instead of a weekend just limit the time to a few hours to avoid all the legwork of refunding. sometimes i wonder if something like this hasn't been proposed but publishers and devs say no.

Really? Because I've done that.

If you try it, and don't enjoy it that's a perfectly good reason to return it before the 2 hour mark. There's even a "I'm not having fun" option for why you're returning it. I've probably returned 20-30 games that I didn't enjoy and returned them. Never been refused a refund. I guess that's the same thing that you're describing. I don't see there being any moral issue with doing so.

>E3 2016
>big announcement about DOOM
>free demo!
>gets applause
State of the industry. Demos are luxuries. They detract from pre-orders since people will just wait and try it and they ruin future sales since at the moment, the only thing against them is word of mouth and youtube.

>I've probably returned 20-30 games that I didn't enjoy and returned them
What kind of time frame? Any messages from valve or anything?

Costs money and they don't currently have the technology to do it. If you keep a game running at the end of a free weekend you can play it no problem for hours, probably days.

Since whenever they started the return policy. I once got an automated "this policy isn't for try before you buy" message, but that was when I had returned like 4 or 5 games over the course of a couple of weeks. They've never sent anything sense and I just keep doing it. If a game I pay for is trash I'm not gonna just eat the loss if I don't have to.

>If you keep a game running at the end of a free weekend you can play it no problem for hours, probably days
Really? I've never actually bothered with a free weekend.

>"this policy isn't for try before you buy"
I love Valve would send you that. As if it's somehow a dirty and awful thing to not gamble your money on liking something.

Think about how many games you refund. 1 in 20? 1 in 30?
If you just bought your games on other platforms or even keysellers you save way more money and don't have to bother with refunds.

>If you just bought your games on other platforms or even keysellers you save way more money and don't have to bother with refunds.
What?

You can usually get a game 10% cheaper than on Steam, but since you didn't buy on Steam you don't get the refund policy.
Unless the odds of you returning a game are higher than 1/10, you are always better off not buying on Steam.