So is it 4k@60fps or 4k OR 60fps?
So is it 4k@60fps or 4k OR 60fps?
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No
It's OR.
>console going something a 1080 can't even do very well
It's a console without games
It's not even 4k.
Assassins Creed origins only runs at like 1800p checkerboarded to 2160p at 30fps, although it uses the same textures as the PC ultra settings.
>it's the same size as my cable box but slimmer
>runs cooler than the pro
>no power brick
I knew the design guys who made the surface and one s were good, but damn.
It runs cool because there are no games for it
XOR
>low hanging fruit "argument"
Basically only racing games are native 4k and 60fps. 90% of the the other Xb1X games use god awful resolution scaling, hovering around 1440p or some other fucking frakenstein resolution.
Pop in some Gear 4 and prepared to be floored. Hell, play some Gears 3 to see how much better it looks.
A $700 graphics card can barely push modern titles at 2160p@60 with a $300 processor driving it, expecting any standalone hardware to do it is absurd. 1080p@60 is a pretty good trade for Variablep@Variable though.
GoW4 uses resolution scaling, it doesn't play at native 4k.
I'm considering buying one but
does the xbone controller have batteries that need to be replaced? Or can I just stick a usb cord into and plug it into the console like with a ps4?
>does the xbone controller have batteries that need to be replaced?
yes.
Fucking M$ most premium console ever and they still give you two fucking AA batteries for their controller.
They sell an extra battery charging cable for $20
USB and it does have batteries you can replace. I just noticed this vid if you're interested in this game or already have it. Runs at 60fps now.
are you fucking kidding me?
I have to buy a third party charging kit just so I can recharge a fucking controller
yeah nah, eat shit ms
I watched an unboxing video and when I saw that fucking little package of AA batteries I turned the video off. Absolute bullshit they can't ship controllers with a chargeable solution out of the box.
So you guys like having less options? Those rechargable controllers are real cool until they die for good and you have to buy a new one entirely. Not to mention, if you want to never worry about running out of juice you have to either keep them plugged in while playing or have a backup controller. With xbox controllers you can either not be a poor fucking faggot and just buy a play and charge kit, or get rechargeable batteries for dirt cheap. Retards.
You must be a fucking shill, anytime someone mentions to cheap ass AA batteries you say "well its better than the whole controller dying" when has that ever been a fucking issue in the last 10 years? It's not "more" options is M$ being cheap as fuck. Fucking $50 controller then you have to shell out $20 more for fucking rechargeable batteries or a charge pack.
Rechargable batteries you can replace are the best though. It's no different than phones that won't let you replace the battery now. It's just another way to make you buy more shit instead of being able to fix it yourself.
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>the xbox one x has more power and a better/ more than double the framerate than a gtx 970 and a 780ti
another win for xbox
>It's just another way to make you buy more shit instead of being able to fix it yourself.
Well thats fucking ironic because you HAVE to go an buy more batteries or a rechargeable option with the FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR CONSOLE.
>It's no different than phones that won't let you replace the battery now
Holy shit was year is it? 2008?
You must be a retard. Rechargable AA batteries can be had for next to nothing and bitching about 20 bucks is a joke. It's like saying, would you rather have the choice of using only rechargable batteries, or regular batteries, rechargable AAs and a battery pack? And you choose the first option because your faggot ass would rather have 20 bucks that you'll end up spending on burger king anyway.
Why do you lie?
It can do both but not in many games.
>would you rather have the choice of using only rechargable batteries, or regular batteries, rechargable AAs and a battery pack?
I'd rather my premium console have a fucking controller than comes with a rechargeable pack on it you fucking shill. Not a fucking pack of AA batteries like its 1995.
Are the PS4 included "2 hours at best" batteries better?
>he pays 500 to game at 30fps
seriously? you were willing to fork over 500 dollars for a console but a 20 dollar charging kit is where you draw the line?
Glad you mentioned that controller, why not the Wii U/Switch Pro Controller? Has an internal battery and easily lasts over 40 hours on a charge.
>everyone is telling me I'm wrong
>must be shills
Yes keep having an autistic meltdown trying to justify replacing a whole controller if a fucking battery stops working.
>buys "premium" console
>worried about having to spend 20 dollars to have more options
Lol whatever you say friendo.
Those are seperate purchases for the console. Or not?
But not required, unlike a rechargeable pack or batteries you stupid motherfucker.
>but a 20 dollar charging kit is where you draw the line?
not him but literally every other system has a controller with a rechargable battery.
its a matter of principal. why pay $20 extra for something that should have been built into the controller already?
The mindset of a peasant. You are fine buying a console, a 4k TV, internet subscription, multiplayer subscription, games, passes and microtransactions but you are losing your shit over a couple batteries which last 10 times longer than the cheap built in solution of any of the competition.
Yet for all those things I am paying for, M$ still can't include a fucking rechargeable pack that they already make and include into their most premium console. Fucking pathetic.
I just dont understand this mentality. Whenever I played my ps3, that shit would die in 2 hours and I'd have to go plug it in to the console, sit close as fuck to the TV and burn my eyes out for another hour. With xbox, I literally just popped a new pair of AAs in every week or so and never thought twice about it. You're literally bitching about paying 20 bucks to have MORE options for how to play. Unbelievable.
You can use your controller with a usb cable. How old are you? 10? $500 console is fine for your $1000 4K TV but $520 is unacceptable? Really, this makes you angry?
>Whenever I played my ps3, that shit would die in 2 hours
Thanks M$ shill, you need to try harder if you want people to believe you're a normal person.
>You can use your controller with a usb cable.
Wow I sure do love going blind sitting 4 feet from my 65in 4k because I forgot to buy more batteries for my controller.
I guess you never owned a ps3 because the battery life on the dualshock 3 was garbage.
I tell you a secret. 500 dollars is not premium. It may look like premium for someone who works for scraps but it isn't. Hell even the new Iphone isn't premium for the people it was originally made for.
Controllers should come packaged with rechargeable AAs
And you can charge them inside the controller by plugging in a USB cable.
And yet you're okay with going blind every time you have to plug your ps4 controller into the console to charge it lmao
Wtf are you talking about? The ps3 controller lasts way longer than that.
You are so full of shit.
>500 dollars is not premium.
For the current market of consoles yes it fucking is. For 90% of the population in 1st world countries, dropped 500 dollars is a fucking big purchase and anyone who is a fucking cuck like you would say it is a premium purchase.
Is this bait? I can't tell anymore.
Why do Sonyroaches keep shitting up every Xbox One X and Switch thread? How buttblasted are these guys?
>just use a usb wire bro
I think I got more baited than you did.
no its NO GAMES
One the PS3 control lasts way longer than that.
And two paying like ~$3 dollars for a pack of AA every week or two doesn't sound 2 great especially if you assume you're getting 2 years out of the console.
Though mathematically should probably just calculate it vs the failure rate of auto-rechargeable ones.
Who cares about poor people? X was made to satisfy faggots who complained about performance. The price is higher because the cost of the hardware is higher. If it is too much for you then don't buy it. You don't have to play games, play candy crush on your phone. There is the price, if you don't like it (aka you are poor) then don't buy it.
Getting an Xbox One X for Halo 5 and 6.
You can measure the assblast by their reactions to the stronger hardware. They are winning on every front but "most powerful console" and they can't even let that go.
They really are a sad bunch, aren't they?
I just want to know where MS got their hands on 12gb of GDDR5 ram for a mass consumer product.
Panasonic eneloop AA batteries are goodlike. I started using them in the 360 era and rotating 4 of them (costs around $15 for a 4pack) lasts at least 3 years with heavy use (4+ hours a a day).
Rechargeable batteries are no excuse.
Neither mostly.
>mass consumer product.
This system will not sell nearly enough units for that to matter.
lmao
XB1X has a pitiful CPU, M$ simply talked up the GPU. Enjoy the $500 box of throttled GPU horseshit.
It's still being sold in Walmarts. That's more market demand needed to stay there than a 1080.
samefag
>the asshurt is real
Maybe this will be the gaming generation they finally start fucking optimizing their software since there's no GPU-related excuses they can make as to why they can't maintain a perfect 30fps.
>b-b-but weak mobile cpu!
Seeing replies like this certainly make me think so.
Just how desperate are you?
I don't care if they can't get 4k60 every game. £450 is crazy value for what this brings to the table for modern games and for backward compatibility titles. As long as my games don't look like ass on my LG 48" 4ktv I'll be satisfied. It certainly does a better job at what it's targeted to do than the ps4 pro which I've seen can sometimes have 96% lower resolution and on average 50% lower res.
Yeah going by Average income you'll have something like ~22k post tax. Around 12k-18k will be spent on staying alive.
So giving the benefit and say you have 10k left to have fun it's only about 5% of your yearly fun times. Mind you cost of living can vary wildly.
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My local mini mart shop sold 10 AAA batteries for £1 and they could last me like a month or two. Saved so much hassle having to deal with moving up close to my ps3. I sit about 10m away from my tv so you can probably tell how fucking shitty it was to go up there to charge the controller.
Meant AA*
Can you mess with the battery in a PS4 controller or is it done if it breaks? That's one thing I don't like about these new cell phones the past few years. They close off the battery and then you're screwed if something happens to it.
Sonyroaches are truly the worst fanbase.
The bottom is a cutscene and they've obviously opted to have higher visual effects in cutscenes. A lot of games do this and it can hurt performance. At the end of the day you don't even notice fps drops in a cutscene because you aren't playing the game so it won't feel sluggish due to the fps drop. The fact the x1x is pushing between 50 and 90% more pixels and is still putting in a higher average fps compared to the pro just shows how much better it is. 22% price increase for minimum 50% resolution increase.
It's probably not worth opening the controller to replace it. Just get a whole new controller.
>22% price increase for minimum 50% resolution increase.
I wish the 4k meme would die, consoles could be getting 60fps in every game at 1080p with super sampling. Instead we get 4k 30fps shit.
>At the end of the day you don't even notice fps drops in a cutscene because you aren't playing the game so it won't feel sluggish due to the fps drop.
Drops to sub-30 are noticable regardless of cutscene or gameplay. It's more embarassing to the publisher if they can't get a guaranteed 30fps in a CUTSCENE, which are fully under their own control, higher-detailed assets for the 2-3 characters close to the camera or not.
Is it going to be a cat & mouse game between Sony & MS now where every 3-4 years they release a beefed up version of the console?
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I doubt it, the main reason Microsoft did it was because the Xbox One was weak sauce at launch.
Sony was leaning really hard into marketing the PS4 Pro as the most powerful gaming console, and now they don't even have that.
That said, glad Microsoft went overboard with the performance bump up instead of slouching on it like Sony did. PS4 Pro still bottlenecking its I/O is garbage, load times are bad enough in modern games without the OS getting in the way.
30 fps has been the console standard for donkeys years and the vast majority of console players don't mind it as they're either too casual to care or they easily adjust to it (like me). I wouldn't expect 60 fps at even 1080p from a £450 pc. What a lot of people forget is that in some countries e.g. USA you can get pc parts dirt cheap so you probably could spend $500 on an actual decent 1080p60 or 4k30 pc. Most other countries on the other hand don't have those kinds of big pc markets and when consoles like the x1x are presented there, it offers insane value over comparable pc hardware. The best you can do here in the UK to match the X1x for price is like an Athlon and 1050 ti. It's not a very competitive option in practise.
We're dealing with vm protect denuvo jews so what do you expect. That doesn't take away from the x1x being the best console option by a country mile though.
Anytime I hear someone talk about how a console game feels so "smooth" its almost always because it ran at 60fps. even fucking Mario is praised for how it "feels" mainly part to it running at 60fps. If the hardware simply can't run the game at 1080p@60fps then fine. But the current console hardware can, they just choose to force 4k on us even though the 4k TV market is extremely small. Fucking Xbox360 didnt even ship with HDMI cables its first few years, they recognized even then 1080p TVs were not that common.
Me too, those technicians at Microsoft are magical.
Whether you're a 0/10 troll, a shitposter, or an actual marketer, you need to fucking kill yourself.
The world is better off without you, you waste of oxygen.
Specific 60 fps consoles wouldn't work based on parity. A good number of devs including destiny 2 devs have already said they need parity between all platforms hence why they target 30 fps across all platforms. If some people had 60 fps but the rest had 30s with drops to the 20s, we all know who'd win in deathmatches. You wouldn't even have to be good at the game and you'd still be able to wipe the floor with the guys playing at 30 fps.
You have to remember that one of the best things about console gaming over the years was the parity across every version of the game on a single platform. You have the same advantages and disadvantages as the next guy.
There are all these other things the console companies have to weigh up. Also it's much easier to market 4k visuals than 60 fps as like I mentioned before, most console players are used to 30 fps already and are probably too casual to care and will buy these upgrade consoles solely because of buzzwords anyway.
This image here is a good semblance to you. Your ass is really burning, isn't it?
Hi Pajeet.
I ain't buying an XBX, but I'd rather see home consoles get more powerful to a notable degree, not a shitty baby step like the PS4 Pro. The higher spec those things get, the better the multiplats on PC will look.
Unfortunately all of them are still getting to get held back by the OG Xbone.
>posting this video
>not mentioning it is only doing 60fps on 900p
>and it dips below that for cutscenes
>and struggles to go above 40fps when in Novigrad
>The higher spec those things get, the better the multiplats on PC will look.
yeah nah, XB1X is still cucked by the XB1.
It's 24 fps upscaled with interpolation to 60 fps and the 4k part is just not true. 900p at best
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Most of these recent ultra HD texture packs are as a result of the upgraded consoles and mostly the x1x. You get higher quality assets in general devs plan for the the higher end experience