Name a game with better writing than 999

Name a game with better writing than 999

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>play this until 4am
>go to bed freaked out we’re all linked by an intangible universal consciousness

Wish the games played the horror angle more. Shit like the shark tank room were the best moments.

Utawarerumono

Starless

Subahibi.

Any western game. West invented literature.

VLR

999 is babby's first VN

VLR

Why do you ask the impossible op

Killer 7
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Ace Attorney

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

VLR has a lot of problems, including obvious plot twists, rushed ending, and characters not near as charming as in 999.

999's pacing, characterisation, foreshadowing, and execution fucking MASTERFUL, and VLR was honestly a step down.

Just finished this. Is really good.

I just wanted a 999 thread desu

>le hindsight bias
999 is predictable as fuck. The characters aren't as good, and the villain is a fucking retard with retard motives.
The ending of 999 is also cheesy anime bullshit, and bad endings in 999 are just thoughtless "Junpei dies xd" without any substance.
The writing is barebones as fuck and the pacing is awful. "hey lmao let me spout this scientific wikipedia article while we're in this room freezing to death"

Twists
>E17,999,R11,VLR,ZTD

Pacing
>999,VLR,R11,ZTD,E17

Atmosphere
>R11,999,VLR,E17,ZTD

Overall

>999,R11,E17,VLR,ZTD

>999
>good

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Forgot

Ghost Trick>All of them.

Of all the examples you could have given you chose the worst one, since Akane and Santa were the only others in the freezer and leading Jumpy along

>I can only enjoy games starring highschoolers in a school environment starterpack

>Twists
>999>VLR
This is a load of garbage and you know it.

Problem is if you played E17, VLR's major twists feel like rehashes.

ZtD

WE'VE GONE OFF-TOPIC

DR may be entry-level but I'll take V3 over ZTD any day.

VLR > DR2 > V3 > 999 > DR1 > DR3 > ZTD

How the hell are VLR's plot twists obvious in the least? Which ones, specifically? It has like 5 main plot twists, and all of them were fantastic.

>played VLR as soon as it came out
>loved it
>waited 4 years for ZTD
>it was shit
Pic related

This and MGS2 still remain the scariest endings to a videogame

>everything is resolved
>ends on a still image of what you're led to believe is a mummy in the middle of the desert

I mean VLR fucked it up but I couldn't sleep that night, it was just such an eerie way to end everything.

People hate ZTD, but I still enjoy it purely for meme reasons alone.

>999
>good
Heh.

Unteralterbach

VLR had a "scarier" ending IMO
>everything is "resolved"
>ends with the reactors going off and the earth being destroyed
I mean, it's a really sad game when you think about it. Clover, Alice and Phi (the one that stays at the base after) pretty much have their lives ruined by the end of it.
Sigma's life is also ruined. No matter what he does, he just couldn't return to his normal life.

Yu No or Subahibi

Ghost Trick

10/10 plot twist
10/10 doggo

Wasn't it a practically naked lady hitchhiking that you're led to believe to have been perfectly preserved in the prime of her youth thanks to the magic of ice-9? Those are two different things, user. One makes your dick hard

ANYTHING has better writing than 999. Did you played when you were 12, or you just haven't experienced a good story in your life because you haven't even looked for one, like most manchildren?

*Yawns*
Is this bait meant to impress us?

True Love

1000 > 999

I remember playing the game blind.

We escape and run into a bunch of unrelated people except the blind guy with his sister then suddenly DOHO it's your childhood friend. Geeze I wonder who the fuck Zero is

Then I went through the wrong door and June then joked about being Zero and that cemented it. That was just terrible it would have been better to have future YOU being Zero and using past Junpei to setup all the traps to avoid his future or something along those lines.

I can dig it. Just put a huge power gap between 999 and everything else in "Pacing".

Also Ever17 still best overall.

My moves are...complicated

Seriously this game has the best writing and story I have EVER experienced. This includes all the hundreds of /lit/ books and every visual novel I have ever read.

Yes I have read the entire infinity series and all the Zero Escape series.

I can say with certainty that this game is the magus opus of videogame storytelling. Including the whole package of atmosphere,pacing,music que,character development

Integrating the story with gameplay+hardware everything fit perfectly well without making it a bullshit "anime philosophy" story that the other zero escape games fall into.

I swear 999 should be played by all the normalfags in the world as it would justify gaming as being on the same level as literature.

I've seen tons of good videogame stories such as SOMA, The Talos Principle. But 999 is just on a whole other plane of existence.

I'm only in my 30s but I can say for certain that I will not experience a better story in a videogame within my lifetime. This is the only game I can give a 10/10 for being perfect.

Pasta or not, I agree, it's pretty God-tier.

tone shift at the very end was wack but it was very cool to play it not knowing much beforehand

All truth

>Subahibi
Would you recommend it for anynody? How good is it?

I would recommend it if you are not one of those overly sensitive people, if you like philosophy, or if you like physiological horror/crazy shit.

I felt like 999 was a masterpiece but it was only a fluke.

Like dropping 100 chimpanzees into a room with a typewriter and by mere chance they wrote Shakespeare. That's how I feel about 999. Uchikoshi is obviously not a good writer judging from VLR and his other visual novels but somehow with 999 he hit a homerun. Kinda sad that I now know that he is a hack though. Kinda ruins the magic of 999 in retrospect. He should've just retired after that since it would obviously never be topped.

Deus Ex
NieR + the sequel

Umineko

Visual novels are less than half of a game.

999 is great, but I wouldn't really say the writing is amazing or anything

Who was the killer in the submarine ending? Everyone else was dead.

>without making it a bullshit "anime philosophy" story that the other zero escape games fall into.
999 is 100% anime philosophy

Ace faked his death, they didn't check his bracelet.

Nope.

Especially not NieR and the sequel. The sequel was just plain anime philosophy bullshit and the original NieR while good isn't even in the same ballpark as the retarded cousin of 999.

Ever 17. 999's twist, while good, wasn't as emotionally cathartic as Ever 17's, which to this day is my favorite ending in vidya.

Of course, Ever 17 cheats by abusing boring setups during the first routes, but eh.

>japanese game
>good writing

*breathes in*

>That was just terrible it would have been better to have future YOU being Zero and using past Junpei to setup all the traps to avoid his future or something along those lines.

Did you play VLR?

Shut up you dumb faggot.

I replied assuming 999 was a game, it's a VN. I'm not even going to talk with you specimens anymore.

pretty much anything

I disagree the writing,character development and dialogue felt very mature and realistic. I even had a disconnect from the anime aesthetics because the dialogue felt way too mature and serious for it to be spoken by anime characters. The philosophy is certainly not anime in nature. Hell they even reference genuine philosophy and literature like ICE 9 being from "vonnegut's Cat's Cradle" (Cradle pharmacy is also a reference to this). The philosophy is very much in line with The Talos principle and other works which discuss what makes you, you. And if having more information can actually change the entire personality proving that you are only the information you have access to.

If that is anime philosophy then I sure have been missing out on all that high quality shit all my life.

999 was mediocre and VLR was much better than it.
Honestly you 999fags are the fucking worst. Overrating a barebones as fuck simplistic VN game because it was probably your first "serious" VN game.
Nothing about 999 is impressive or majestic. It's a pretentious game with a cliche story and predictable "we'll be friends forever" anime shit ending.

Oh shit you didn't even play 999?

I'm fucking jealous of you man. No wonder you still think NieR has a good story.

Seriously go play 999 on the original DS if you haven't. This shit will change your life and I am not exaggerating at all.

I'm not going to "play" a VN, no amount of your brain damage induced enthusiasm will ever change that.

>"we'll be friends forever" anime shit ending

What? The ending is literally being tricked and abandoned by a sociopath emotionless killing machine after you helped her survive. She doesn't even say goodbye and just abandon you since she has no reason to stay with you anymore.

I think you missed the point of 999.

It's a puzzle game. Not a VN. Just like Talos Principle is a puzzle game and not a VN.

God damn you're a fucking idiot.
>sociopath emotionless killing machine after you helped her survive.
>and just abandon you since she has no reason to stay with you anymore.

Yeah, a fucking retard who didn't even understand the game he shits his diapers for.
Embarrassing.

I don't understand how you can think that VLR is worse at this. Don't get me wrong, I would say the writing is worse in VLR but the philosophical concepts are completely equal in terms of depth. Also I wouldn't say because it references stuff makes it that amazing.

>predictable "we'll be friends forever" anime shit ending.

so you think it's simplistic because you didn't get it

Update - This is just anime SAW. You people have NO standards. I'm out for real. I hope you guys run into some taste today.

sounds neath, thanks. But I thought this game was just a normal sol romance vn? Is it something else entirely?

The fucking ending is that Akane tricked you the entire game and only faked the "friendship" shit to manipulate you.

How do people miss this obvious shit wtf.....

I've been thinking about VLR and ZTD, and there's a trope that they fell into that 999 and Ghost Trick did better.
The "purpose" of 999 was "save this girl and yourself". The "purpose" of GT was "find out the truth about yourself". The "purpose" of VLR and ZTD was "save all of humanity because there's something threatening the world" and that's pretty cliched. Having the "this game must solve the most important thing ever and save the world" trope ticked me off.

It has the best story in videogames and in fact Yoko Taro from NieR considers it the best story ever created. Look it up.

>anime SAW
That's fucking stupid. ZTD was anime SAW, but 999 and VLR were not. Saw didn't even attempt to have any philosophy in it.

itt a bunch of 13 year olds who have never seen a saw movie

Protip: You can't

Planescape: Torment is better.

Akane didn't hate Junpei, you massive retards
She left because she and Santa fucking kidnapped people and had to flee
That's all there is to it.
And I can't believe you fucking retards are trying to dig a ocean inside a shallow puddle.

cat is telling you to end his suffering

>Anime SAW

Do yourself a favor and go play 999. Doesn't have to be now or even soon. Just keep it into your mind that there is a game out there with a story so good that it will change your view on how storytelling in gaming could work.

When the time comes and you are mentally ready for such a thing just remember there is always 999 for you to experience for the first time. But be warned, after finishing 999 you will NEVER be able to truly appreciate another game story ever again.

I'm not the first guy, but Junpei and Akane weren't friends after that. Even in ZTD when they actually get to meet there's only suspicion.

Akane canonically wants to be with Junpei but you are misrepresenting the game hardcore.

>the whole purpose of VLR is to learn that the world is fucked and how to save it
>ZTDs ending adds another completely unrelated different way the world is fucked
Why was ZTD so bad?

That's my favorite CRPG but I don't think it comes even close to how 999 executed a story that can ONLY be told through the videogame medium. Planescape torment is a really good story but 999 is a really good story that actually pushed the videogame medium to its limit of the potential to tell a story through it.

Obviously Junpei was mad at her for what happened back there, but it's not like he hated her. Hell, the faggot was trying to marry her (for whatever retarded reason. Who wants to marry a childhood friend they met 9 years later in a death game they schemed?)

>and in fact Yoko Taro from NieR considers it the best story ever created
I doubt Yoko "self depreciating" Taro would give himself that high of praise

Contra Hard Corps

jesus christ, how low can call of duty: ww2 go?

THERE WERE NO CATS IN WORLD WAR 2, YOU FUCKING SJW FAGGOTS.

Never mind I thought you said he said that about Nier but now I see you meant he said that about 999

>dude lmao I can't see faces guess I'll kidnap children xd

Unironically yes. Little slav girl a best

The section in VLR where Junpei says that the Akane he knows is long dead basically implied that it's real and Akane is just an emotionless sociopath purely focused on min-maxing the timeline to have the best results without any consideration for the lives of the people caught in her plan. She didn't even think about how Junpei would feel if she suddenly left as exposed when she says she didn't really think about contacting him because she was busy.

Uchikoshi thought he'd be too bored just putting together the game he'd written right after VLR, so he wrote up a completely different scenario and used that instead.

>the dialogue was realistic
They randomly spout Wikipedia articles out of nowhere even though its highly inappropriate at times.
>hey jumpy I know we're trapped in a freezer and freezing to death but let me tell you about this chemical no one gives a shit about.

old Akane is not young Akane
he hated Akane for scheming the events in VLR, not for leaving him after 999

Plenty of them. A lot of 999 dialogue is poor expositions about obvious plot points that will come later on.
>Hey hear me talk about people who can't recognize faces
>Woah, I wonder why are you telling me this specific piece of information we don't really need right now