Was PS2 era the best of video games?

Games were better and had charm when compared to soulless current gen games.

360 era had better games imo

it's just nostalgia speaking

it was the swansong of the golden era, the peak before long spiraling down that's still ongoing.
"Casuals" weren't a target audience, not everything was online, no DLC / microtransanction / lootbox problems, devs still dared to push tech forward... great times.

False.
Xbox 360 alone had literally no games worth anything.

That is one of the lamest non-arguments one could think of.

Sixth generation wasn't perfect, but I think it had the best balance of technology and reasonable budgets for experimentation.

There was a lot of shovelware as a result, but more people were trying new ideas and playing with different genres instead of recycling the the same handful of guaranteed moneymakers. Platformers, psychological horrors, unique RPGs. Just a bit more innovation overall.

>Nostalgia
Fuck off underage

saying some other old games had some "charm" or whatever the fuck isn't a great argument either
the one objectively great thing about first ps2 vidya was the amount of TECHNOLOGY. I posted tekken4 which I've played just today and cloth physics is fucking amazing, on par with t7

>Soulless
>Charm
>Lifeless
When will this meme end?

I personally find late 90s games more charming than the early 2000s but it's true that the latter games usually had better gameplay and more content too.
It was when the technology was getting to a point where developers could make 3D games very freely but a lot of ideas were still fresh and not everything was as iterative.

MGS is one good example as a series of this. MGS2 and 3 are way better to go back to actually playing again but MGS1's story and atmosphere feel more coherent.

some say lost odyssey was good
all the multiplatformers that weren't available on PC were also superior on x360

>Played games since Sega genesis/SNES
>Great games each gen even now
>Always mediocre/bad games each gen just like now

Listen, PS2 is still an amazing system to play and has amazing games, but guys get over it. Good games still get made. I still have a modded PS2 on the side for great games I missed, but man it had a lot of mediocre games with no soul.

If you hate playing new video games just then find a new hobby

>calling someone who is nostalgic about games released 16 years ago underage

>Casuals" weren't a target audience,
Yup, the 100+ million people who bought a ps1 or ps2 were hardcore gamers like yourself

her butt is too large and disgusting

Speak for yourself, faggot.

Kill yourself

It really is nostalgia. People here are defending games that were shat on back then like halo 2, wind waker, jak 2, thief dark shadows, etc

The """"Good games"""" this gen are mediocre and pander to brainless casuals.

Tech pushing hasn't gone anywhere though...and it certainly hasn't gotten us anywhere far either.
Yay, we can create an infinite world like in minecraft. Yay we can jam so many polygons, effects and all sorts of superficial graphics processing into the graphics buffer that the games barely run at 30FPS despite consoles being more powerful than ever.
This has always happened, but what has changed is that the game budgets have increased so much that less games are being made overall and less people are in charge of designing anything at all. So much depends on risk factors that much more creative, new or uncommon ideas are being turned down and much more safe, tried-and-tried and popular ideas get the pass.
One of the worst ways this showed up was Microsoft's funding bases especially during 7th gen idea, where you basically had to pitch anything to them as "it's our X killer" to get money because trying to do what everyone else was already doing for their own profit was all they could think to do.

Yes
Had a lot of classics released during that gen. There's hardly anything that was released in the past 10 years that I'd consider memorable or noteworthy besides maybe minecraft

>Tech pushing hasn't gone anywhere though...
Yes it has. Games hardly even use physics these days and do nothing impressive tech wise. SOTC has better tech than most games these days.

Developers also don't hire competent artists to make their games as close to flawless as possible anymore, just compared KH1/2 to 3 which looks dated despite being years from release.

The old games still hold up in contrast.

There was also much more variety and innovation to be found on the industry as a whole back in those days. Instead of majority of console games being these "standardized", cookie-cutter first- or third-person shooters w/ chest-high walls, even games of the seemingly same genre could look and play very different from each other. I'd also argue that the overall lifespan of individual games were much longer, as in campaigns were generally longer, and / or had more replay value.

On top of that, every gaming system still did its "own thing", more or less, even if the contrast differences were already tad lower than on 5th generation.
PC was its own behemoth with its very own style fast- and slow-paced "mature games". Sony's system was the cool rich kid of the block that allowed people to not only watch DVDs for (relatively) cheap, but also play their old PS1 games. Nintendo wanted to stick to its oldschool guns and provide systems that just played games. Then came out MS, whose success nobody really believed in, but they ultimately revolutionized the industry in numerous ways.

You have to understand the definition of the term "casual", and how it has changed within the past 12 years. If you had a Playstation back in early 00s, you were at least semi-dedicated video game player, "one of the nerds", didn't even matter if all you played was NHL and NFS.
Then came Nintendo with its Wii, and their aim to get non-gaming people to play their games. The literal casual gamers, who'd not be into more traditional video games that require long-term dedication and skills to be enjoyed.

>wind waker
Only the earliest "muh realism!!!" graphix whores ever complained about WW.
The other were hit-or-miss black sheep of their series, but still mostly above average games. Which easily makes them quite great by modern standards.

You guys are so delusional it's not even funny. I hope the 7th gen kiddies take over this board

Agreed with the MGS part 100%.

This is now a top tier ps2 games thread.

You can but Nocturne sealed for $20 thanks to the reprint years ago, no reason not to own it.

>Tech pushing hasn't gone anywhere though
If it wasn't for the big technological leaps, like those that happened in 1996, 2004 and finally 2007, we'd probably only be enjoying some early 00s DX8-level stuff this very day. Not to mention the consumer PC tech would be much simpler and weaker, potentially affecting consoles as well; why bother having multi-gigahertz processors and gigabytes worth of memory, if there's no competition with such specs either?

The last decade from 2007 forward has been an interesting, quite bizarre anomaly; it's like the evolution of visual AND interactive side of gaming tech would have practically halted.
It's quite fascinating that things like Crysis, now 10 year old game, still look passable today, and even offer more interaction and freedom than many much more contemporary titles of the same kind, while most games from another 10 years prior would've potentially looked and felt dated just a few years after their release.

halo 2 was shit on? by who?

and jak 2 was shit on only by shitters who sucked at video games, most jak fans always enjoyed it.

dunno about thief and you're right about wind waker, but a lot of people also liked wind waker even back then.
>sailing
>not cool

2000-2012 has the best games, period.

>no reason not to own it.

no reason to cling to old games either

just meant that it hasn't disappeared anywhere nowadays and that it hardly amounts to anything for game's quality

>Was Gen 6 the best of video games
Of 3D? Perhaps. 2D? No.

Some user said that Gravity Rush 2 is basically a modern era PS2 game.
After connecting the dots I had to agree. It's basically what I imagined modern gaming to be like. Just an advancement, not a reform.

GR2, P5 and Nioh are basically modern games with the design philosophy of the PS2 era

It seems they want to make SMTV the Nocturne they originally had in mind with a big world, more freedom but the same dark atmosphere. My fingers are crossed to the max

>No Secret Weapons Over Normandy
>No Tokyo Xtreme Racer or Kaido Battle

shit list.

No, but there is a reason to cling to good games

GR2, to me, didn't have enough in it to be PS2 tier if that makes sense.

The reasons those games were shat on are different that the reasons people shit on most current games today.
Jak 2's change in gameplay alienated people but at least you didn't need a constant Internet connection to play the damn thing

Too bad you can't play GR2 offline even though it's a single player game

What the fuck, Sony

PS1 and PS2 is the reason why I trust Sony after the PS3 disappointment; I'll eventually buy a PS4 but then I'm done with consoles.

Don't bother, just buy a PS5 aka remaster machine 3.0. Or wait for PSnow to support PS4 as well(this is coming).

No, games weren't better when you were a teen. Get over it.

t. newfag

Fuck off casual

jak 2 was easy tho

Old fag here. The PS3/Xbox 360/Wii generation was probably the best. It had the best mix of games. My personal favourite gen is PS1/N64 gen though.

They had more charm.

Unique control setups, no real streamlining, it was just pure and simple video game concepts that where able to stand their own ground.

Now everything is uniformed.