What are the complains to the game other than SJW?
What are the complains to the game other than SJW?
It's a fun game that didn't fail so it endlessly triggers Sup Forums. This board is like heroin addicts but instead of the next hit it's all about the next tortanic but nothing can ever truly sate them.
how is it sjw?
just because it has a female lead?
bad character animation, ridiculous plot, melee gameplay is poor, dino AI could be better, human AI is dogshit, quests are weak and wholly forgettable. Aside from that, it's alright; 6/10 at best.
well
yea
pretty much
it's more because of the story
explain
The "muh SJWs" complaint is by far the weakest one
>but female protagonist
So? Female protagonists who could fight in vidya have existed before.
>but muh matriarchy
So? They aren't portrayed as great people
>but female goddess
So? Female goddesses have existed in vidya before
>But the villains are men
So? Male villains have existed before. The developers aren't sitting down with a spreadsheet tracking the race, religion, and gender of every villain to make sure they don't offend someone.
if I had the image I'd post it, but I can't find it right now.
>yet another boring open world kill enemies and jump around in the wilderness simulator
No thanks.
At least if it were set in a high tech scifi or steampunk setting I would have a reason to play it.
>ninja theory
Plot was barebones, skill tree was garbage, empty world (in terms of events), not to mention the OP armour wasn't available until literally the last mission (which is short) and pretty much every other bit of weaponry/content was available by the time you hit meridian, and that was maybe 25% of the way into the story, with nothing knew after it.
It took a bunch of good mechanics from other games but didn't build upon them and consequently nothing stood out.
Mario and Link's story have been stale for the last 20 or so years. Up to now, they still haven't saved that damn kingdom and its princess. Character development is stagnant in those games. Yes they are fun to play but if Nintendo keeps churning out the same thing all the time, videogames will only be seen as nothing more than fun games to be recycled for fans and not as creation of art. There is no longer anything original with the Mario and Zelda franchise but always a reimagining of the same world that panders to its enormous and voracious fan base. (Which kind of gives the impression that Nintendo fans are probably a bunch of man-children, no offense to Nintendo fans. You do you)
Videogames today have evolved incredibly better than any other art form such as film, music, and literature, but it is not yet recognized as an art form. In 2008 it kicked the music industry's ass by surpassing its total revenue. Today the videogames industry is three times bigger than the music industry. And it's not stopping.
Because of graphical improvements and musical scoring together with amazing stories, videogames can now evoke profound emotions that people would normally feel when consuming art like film, music, or literature.
It's time for a videogame that reflects the struggles of the human condition and triumphs in it, with a female protagonist, and badass gameplay and story. All that is Pokémon Ultra Moon, also did I mention it can be in beautiful 4k? (If you have a citra and monitor that can) it looks absolutely stunning even on 1080p.
Note, I haven't played USUM yet but I will, soon, when I borrow a friend's copy. I'm only a peasant gamer.
The complete edition of Pokémon Ultra Moon is releasing around my birthday in November. Just leaving that info there.
I hope you guys would vote for Pokemon Ultra Moon as well so that videogames can keep evolving and providing new and better experiences for the gamers.
kek. so even you dont know why people call it an SJW game. youre just relaying the same stupid shit and you dont even know why.
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The sidequests are mostly boring as fuck and require you to fast travel 5 fucking times in a row just to kill a few enemies / talk to someone. Exploring isn't really rewarding, I remember when I first got out of the valley I was exploring shit and found one of the facilities that were relevant for the later story, the entrance was frozen and while aloy could've easily went through the game just told me that it's impossible. And then there's the god awful faceanimations and animation transition, it looks fucking ridiculous when an NPC goes from being alive in a downed state to suddenly dead and aloy just looks at him as if he was a piece of shit when she stands up.
I also wish that you'd get weapons for exploring instead of those fucking modifications. By the end of the game I had my bag constantly full of purple ones because those stormhawks or whatever they were killed kept attacking me and with the right bows it took less than a minute to obliterate them.
It's bland. It is stuffed with countless mechanics loosely lifted from other games with no effort put into them to make them their own or remotely enjoyable.
Traversing the map is tedious. climbing is locked to specific color coded areas. The game Off characters left and right making you feel like nobody is important.
Aloy happens to be the be all end all master hunter even though all the other kids in the village worked just as hard for the proving and everyone else she encounters are completely incompetent to the point that they can't spot her in knee high grass even after they stared her down as she chokes out their friends.
The only selling point is the giant robots but they are 1/4th of the game at best.
The Voice acting is terrible and Ashe Burch shouldn't have been given a major voice acting role let alone the god damn leading character.
the rigging is awful in cutscenes.
But it's pretty though and Sony's new forced flag ship franchise. Ignoring literally every other far better ps4 games that came out days before and after this trash fire.
the story portrays females as the dominant and wiser part of the tribe
>Sup Forums in a nutshell
melee is shit and half of the gaem you are fighting human that have the AI of a ps1 enemy.
littel to fucking no interaction with the world, it looks nice but you do fuck all except fro some context sensitive points.
little variety of monsters and mechanics to fight them. And sidequest as boring as they could get.
Once you get hacking most become pushover.
Also ranged weapons have little diference betwen themselves so the pace of the game or combat never changes, is just roll back and shoot most of the time.
story is ok, is not as SJW as people say, but is nothing great either.
Being PS4 exclusive so everyone who bought the wrong console this gen is triggered
Horizon: Zero Dongs did open world better than Zelda imo
And the tribe was obliterated by the sun kingdom which has only kings so far. The tribe is the worst faction in the game, everyone else has them beat technologically. They are literally retards playing with sticks and rocks while other tribes build big cities and have began to use ancient technology for themself.
the tribe are still framed as the protagonists
>Nora tribe
>female dominant
>living in shitty huts
>archaic society 100% based around a misguided religion
>main character resents them for casting her out
>main character sees the matriarchs as uncapable of understanding the true origins of their world
>Carja tribe
>male dominant
>structurally, socially and economically more advanced
>has the hunter's lodge that combats machines on a daily basis
>main character comes to appreciate their culture and people
>main character turns to them for assistance when shit hits the fan, not the female leading tribe
Play the fucking game user
Sucks you can't enjoy both games because you are a single console poorfaggot
you know what a protagonist is, right
protagonist =/= perfect, or "hero", or even "good"
They don't. They matter for the first 2 playthrough hours, aloy constantly denounces them, constantly tells them that they're retarded for thinking of machines as gods and in the end you fight for the sun kingdom which is lead by a king.
it was pretty boring
somewhere around 15 hours in I dropped it
also some very frustrating quality of life gameplay issues
>cant buy healing herbs for some fucking reason
>spend half your time in game gathering them as you go from point to point completing boring as fuck story missions
the only missions I really enjoyed were the "hunter challenges" honestly
I'm mad that Horizon sold well but GR2 didn't, even though GR2 is the better and more unique game
lol no
see
>be anti-SJW
>complain about a game you haven't even played because a woman is in it
The only real fun shit is killing the big three robots (or the big five if we count Frozen Wilds)
>t. I just finished NG+ in ultrahard
I liked it. But then again, I like open-world games in general.
I enjoyed both desu, but I agree GR2 deserved far more spotlight
>a dozen or so legitimate complaints about the game
>have to make up your own complaint about it being full of women
Nice work OP, sorry you have to like this mediocre goty contender
>directly compare two games
>clearly i only played one
great logic user
I love it when people so openly display that they know nothing about what they’re talking about.
>Savage tribal huntress
>Zero body hair
Dropped.
It's almost like the main protagonist is FROM that tribe or something.
You mean the story where in which the matriarchy are presented as complete retards for exil exiling Aloy at birth for not having a mother, worshiping a door and being afraid of technology?
Please explain who that's supposed to be some glowing endorsement of feminism, or is this literary just "Female Protagonist! REEEEEEEEE!!!" I wonder?
Not to mention that she calls them out for going from treating her like something they scraped off their shoes to worshiping her as soon as they realized they needed her to stop the machines.
Fuck, there's some pretty bad typos.
This is what I get for using a phone.
masterful bait
It's more because of the fanbase and who praised the game than anything. If kotaku and polygon didn't give the game a perfect 10 and praise it for having a strong independent womyn, then it wouldn't be given nearly as much shit.
I beat horizon. The gameplay is awful, mmo style fetch quests, everything happens in cutscenes, aloy is a boring generic forced character.
It's not a bad game but I would describe it as bland, plain, vanilla flavored.
Not him but it's basically greedy military corporations destroyed the world by mass producing military robots that went self aware and attacked humans
However that user is stupid as fuck, this game is no more SJW than the terminator movies
>strong female heroine
>evil robot apocalypse
>multiracial cast
Negatives are, imo, AI can get a little janky since its an open world game but nothing especially game breaking. Dinos can be repetitive to bring down sometimes. Animations outside of combat can be janky, crashes early in the game's lifecycle.
As a positive, the game is very well-supported, things like Photo mode, Ultra Hard mode, New game+ were added in patches with new weapons/gear added in them as well. The game gets a ridiculous amount of patches for a single player game, no lootboxes/microtransactions, it's just a solid SP game. Frozen Wilds is more akin to something like Witcher's expacs in that you get 10-20 hours of value out of it easily. It's not like a DLC mission chain that you finish in 3 hours, its an expansion. Ultra Hard mode is appealing if you're the type who likes resource starvation, really only for New Game+. Changes things up like hiding enemy health bars, altering skill values.
Basically, don't listen to Sup Forums. If you want a solid open world game that's well supported, just get it. It should be on sale soon.
I remember Aloy says “I'm not Aloy of the Nora, I'm Aloy despite the Nora”. So even she hates her own matriarchal tribe
gaia is black muslim
Aloy says she will never have male children at the end
Aloy mocks the ingame religion for it's sun dangling something, then cries about sensitivity one second later shit is filth
The game CONSTANTLY complains about the way women are treated yet fails to notice that every time a female is in power she does her job much better than the male counterpart. this is gross and a perfect example of the cancer America has bought upon the world
Well I hate the Nintendo fanbase for defending anything and everything without thought, ruining any searches for good fan art with their horrific fetishism and generally being manchildren.
Suffice to say I don't let it get in the way of me enjoying Nintendo.
Meant to reply to you.
>Aloy says she will never have male children at the end
When the hell does she say that?
Gains not a black Muslim and even if she was, so what? Black Muslims exist just as much as any other demographic. How would it be different if she was Chinese or Italian or Brazilian
None of the stuff you mentioned makes it SJW
Where does aloy specifically say she won't have male children
Literally nothing. It's beautiful and has fantastic combat and a really interesting story once things ramp up. Oh, and Aloy is a based protagonist.
Literal retardation.
>the OP armour wasn't available until literally the last mission
That's because it's OP, retard.
In terminator sara connor is just a random woman, she could have been anyone, but stepped up and did her part to save the world from robots in the past then again in the future.
In horizon, aloy is constantly told she's the best warrior/hunter by everyone she meets from the start of the game. She's given the super elite title of seeker by people who are supposed to hate her, which let's her basically do whatever she wants. They call her the messiah and savior, the chosen one, and she's a clone of what gaia considers to be god, the creator of machines/ai
>gaia is a black muslim
Her avatar is black. She's not Muslim.
>Aloy says she will never have male children at the end
You realize Elizabet and Aloy are different people, right? *Elizabet* said that she wants to have a daughter, not that she's "never going to have male children". Fucking dumbass.
>then cries about sensitivity one second later
Uh, when does she do this?
I don't recall her saying anything about kids, might as well be a trap or at least a tomboy.
How is this any different from a game with a male character who is a complete badass and told he's the chosen one? Why is it okay if it's with a guy, but suddenly bad if it's with a grill?
During one of the end games conversations form what I recal seeing on the video. But I stopped playing close to the actual ending, this was especially after the stupid prison "questline"
Strong wymen warden that takes no sit from da man breaks his arm/nose if he complains. Yet says a sentence later how hard it is to be a women in this place. Also the three prisoners you have to find 2 is male and dead at the begning of the quest. The female gets actual screen-time and muh sympathies
Also gaia muslim thing, remember these people hate the west they want to kill and rape everything in a 50 miles radius, they are not to be depicted as anything but the monsters they are.
She wears a scarf idiot
Elizabeth and Aloy are intrinsically bound together
During her conversation with the black guy being blackmailed in the begning, when you ask him about their religion
The animations and face modeling was pretty weird/shit. It's the same method or tech everyone else is using right now so it looks that same style where everyone's faces look beefy and move like they're fucked on oxy. The melee was shit. They relied too heavily on Ubishit to fill the open world with events. Bland AI and level design in the linear parts. Replayability is 0.
But I'd still give the game at least a 7, maybe an 8. It's like the best Ubi open world game Ubi never made. I didn't think the plot got nearly enough credit and the game did look really damn good. All of the animations but facial were very good. Killing dinosaurs was really fun for a little while.
the literal subhuman who shill this garbage as "game"
>But the villains are men
This is my favorite thing to read, because that's obviously a complete no-win scenario. If it was a female lead and female antagonist the game would look like a she-god 'we rule the world sit down irrelevant men' kindof thing.
and kindof a moot point anyways because the people who help you are all males and the main bad guy is a robit lmfao
looks like hijab to me. Is this the right person?
is garbage
It's cheesy
>Dumb phoneposter gets assmad at Muh Soggy Knees
Typical
It is. I might have gotten the 2 mixed up. Still my previous point stands.
>Playstation
Gameplay was kindof meh but it looked good (apart from the face) and it was a pretty good mystery-solver story. The time where you first find out where the dinosaurs came from, but aren't sure why they're doing what they're doing was the best part in the game for me. It made the game world feel very alive in a contextual way you don't see very often.
It’s boring
>I-i-it's not SJW guys, I swear!
if you think this is anything like Syria you should just kill yourself to increase the net IQ of the world's population
I am a virgin and girls are gross lol
There's also the fact that the biggest ally Aloy had was a white male who raised her and cared for her when the matriarchal society saw her as a curse
>literally no argument
The average anti-SJW who whines about games they don't even play
>t-trust me!
Timestamp you fucking faggot
Not him, I'm not anti SJW, I just dont buy forced SJW garbage. Sorry this hurts your feelings. Aloy is ugly as fuck. Sorry this also hurts your feelings
It's a game that got unfortunate enough to be released along with the newest actually good zelda.
And the sony posters didn't did it any favor, trying to use it as "the weapon to kill zelda" because muh graphics.
And also it drops the awesome robot battles for crappy human on human shit later on.
And finally, it suffers from several problems of modern gameplayitis that drag down the experience quite a bit.
Would people like HZD better if Aloy was cute? Like if Aloy looked as good as new Lara?
Came here to post this.
samefag
Game need a more gameplay and less recycled crafting shit and cutscenes. Combat sucks
HURR
nice shoop fag
>Combat sucks
Nice meme.
Won't change weapon animations, actual animations, the enemy variety, the horrible human AI, nor the mediocre melee combat. But at least she'll be okay to look at
>i am bad at game therefore it is good
ALOY IS CUTE!!!!!
>shoop
Lose some weight and get a real job you pleb
>THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD SHOOT ME
>DODGE NOW
>YOU ARE HAVING FUN
>Came out like 3 days before a competitor's game in the same genre
>competitor's game was much better in almost every aspect
not even in the same system retard what's the problem retard
I may be a fat neet but atleast Im not a loser virgin
My point was that people started to compare the games. Now HZD will always be in the shadow of BotW. You could start a HZD thread 10 years from now and people will still bring up Zelda.
Imagine still replying to me because you thought I was pretending to be 2 different people and this triggered you. I am leaving this thread now, but you will still reply to this post. How mad are You? Bye
>Now HZD will always be in the shadow of BotW.
Other way around, HZD is going to sweep GOTY awards.
it's just shit and boring
spearchuckers should be properly fucking dead by the mechanical dinos
lmao look at this fag trying to posture on a anonymous video game sub, everyone point and laugh at this perma virgin
>more gameplay and less cutscenes
That's a new one.