It's interesting how three little words can destroy the entire "lootboxes are gambling" argument

It's interesting how three little words can destroy the entire "lootboxes are gambling" argument.

It's interesting how three little words can destroy your entire argument too

gambling isn't necessary in real life either you dumb mong

Going to casino isn't necessary! Wow!

But It's not like kids are banned from gambling if they want.
Oh wait.

You do realize that you don't have to buy lotto tickets either but it doesn't change the fact that the lotto is a form of gambling. I'm not saying that loot boxes are gambling but not being required to buy them doesn't automatically make them not gambling.

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EA shills is getting dumber by the minute.

It exists, that's enough for any gambling laws to affect it.

>"No purchase necessary"
>Overwatch and Battlefront 2 have their content locked behind lootboxes, which you either have to grind for or pay for
>Its still a gambling system within a game

>lootboxes are optional, ergo they aren't gambling and shouldn't be banned for kids
>but kids are banned from casino gambling, so lootboxes are different
This fucking mental gymnastics, holy shit.

>we've got a rich boy here

Hey guys, can't say I agree with what EA is doing. Defiantly unethical for them to implement lootboxes. Bit you know what doesn't have lootboxes? Skyrim, remastered. What do you think fellas?

You look familiar.

"No purchase necessary" means you can enter without paying money.

You can get loot boxes without buying them, therefore they aren't gambling according to U.S. law (which is the only law that matters since virtually all game companies are in the U.S.)

the type of gambling that has an age requirement involves money transactions. Loot boxes do not

Children don't have credit cards retard.

You can't put quarters into your PC to buy lootboxes.

Can someone link taht article explaining how EA literally shames players into buying dlc by matchmaking them with whales

That's irrelevant. You are able to exchange money for a chance at something you may or may not get. Whether or not you have an alternative in there is irrelevant. The option to pay to advance it is there, which means somebody can theoretically take it. It's therefore gambling.

Yes user. Literally everything with chance involved is gambling.

Arcades are gambling. Board games are gambling. Getting randomly searched at the airport is gambling.

The issue that's present is that games like Battlefront 2 make the 'free' option of acquiring the boxes such a grind that it's clearly incentivizing real money expenditure, which is an issue that's exacerbated by the fact that the lootboxes ARE the gameplay progression in BF2.
There does have to some self regulation present to curb some of this shit, because sooner or later governments will listen to idiots crying about 'muh gambling' and 'muh children' and step in, and jesus christ can you imagine what policies they might introduce for video games? At least China had the sense to force odds being known for the gacha stuff.

like others say, kids really shouldn't have access to cards to spend money that can't make. just to point it out for fun you can gamble and drink in vegas under age if you look old enough. especially the old side of the strip, you just walk in and play slots and the women come over and hook it up

Well, sending a self addressed stamped envelope to McDonald's headquarters is also a huge pain compared to buying large fries, but playing the Monopoly game isn't gambling because no purchase necessary

>You are able to exchange money for a chance at something you may or may not get

I realize you are extremely underage, but this is not a new practice.

Way to take the entire discussion at face value.
"Its optional therefore its not gambling." Just like its optional for people to not visit casinos and exchange money for chances of random prizes. That does not mean the loot box system is not gambling nor does it excuse publishers and/or developers to code in tactics to encourage the use of loot boxes in their games. Which is the real fucking problem in the first place.

Retard alert.

No purchase necessary means you can roll the dice at least one time without paying and still win - which you can with loot crates. You don't have to pay to open them since you can earn them for free.

So you are given a loot box every once in a while, makes everything just A-OK. End of discussion people, nothing else to see here. >Its 2017 and real gamers grind for loot boxes to unlock everything, forget skill based unlocks.
>My dad's credit cards allows me to roll for ever seasonal skin I want. Who gives a shit about paying for skins directly, I now also have 100k of in game currency.

>So you are given a loot box every once in a while, makes everything just A-OK. End of discussion people, nothing else to see here.

Yes, that's U.S. law.

If you don't like it, you're free to play non-U.S. games.

>gambling is regulated in nearly every country even though you don't need to use any of the gambling products.
Essentially it also has a no purchase necessary as well but it is still regulated. Honestly shouldn't be if you have the option to not spend money on it. Fucking stupid governments trying to control my life

>No purchase necessary
>Children can still gamble
Hopefully the government catches on soon.

Just wait for the Moms Against Gambling rallies. ;)

I don't know what's more retarded.

The fact that you think kids have credit cards or the fact that you didn't read the thread.

You're a Father Against Gambling

>lootboxes
Have to buy game first to get access to lootboxes but can play around and earn some maybe
>casinos
>don't have to pay to enter most but even then, spend 60 bucks to get tokens to play the casino games and maybe get some more back
>lootboxes
>oh no you have hit a daily limit or coming slowly. Want to open more? Just buy more. Not necessary though. You can continue using the game
>casinos
>run out of tokens, just buy more or feel free to hang around and enjoy the establishment

No gameplay content is locked, and if you are paying for cosmetics you are probably from an MMO.

>put money in
>get something out guaranteed
imagine being so stupid to think this is equal to gambling

Nothing is still something any user
Just not a favourable outcome
You put in 5 bucks and get 4 you still lost
Put on 5 get 0 you still got something which was no reward
In some cases some casinos reward visitor who play with other things even when they lose which you could say then guarantees them something
So yeah, governments really should stop regulating gambling already

Whats so hard for you to understand that your quirky "no purchase necessary" thread is shit and is not going to hold a candle light to the oppressed and mentally abused children suffering from gambling addiction. These loot box systems designed from the ground up to be as addictive as the finest heroin, and to rake in the most earnings for these companies. No mother or father is going to let their child near a video game ever again when they find their child convulsing on the bedroom floor suffering from withdraws because of a maxed out credit card. It wont be long before people start putting two and two together and finding that spikes in these incidents correlate with the latest AAA release. The outrage is going to spread like wild fire throughout the USA and the world, from small communities to the largest urban areas. This effects us all.

>that'll be 60$ entering the casino
>you can just watch
>we have a ball pit

>Nothing is still something

But it is.
You put in $5 hoping to get money but got nothing in return herego, something. A win or a lose. The loss just happens to pay out nothing although like i said in some casinos they give even losers rewards to keep them happy and to make them want to bet more
Which just reminds me of something that loot boxes do. They give out something cheap/worthless in hopes that it baits you into putting more money into to hit that 'jackpot'
just face it, loot boxes are a predatory scheme based on slot machines and gambling in general