Why can't I find a fantasy game that's just dark enough...

Why can't I find a fantasy game that's just dark enough? Everything that tries a darker story ends up either being like FE Conquest (Tries to be dark, but really is just obnoxious angst) or Berserk (Completely over-the-top and grim just for the sake of being grimdank.)

I want a story that's dark because of what happens to the characters, not because "Hehe, the world is a dark place for badasses like me. Nothing personnel kid."

dark souls or dragons dogma

Try Dark Law.

>dragons dogma
I dunno, seems pretty excitable and bright to me. Except for BBI that was dark fun crazy shit

>dark fantasy Berserk will never come back again
>we will be stuck forever with Shonen Guts party quest

ok, i know the whole party thing is pretty lame, but calling it shonen is a bit too much user

>Artstyle improves immensely as years go by
>Story gets worse
I mean, I still like it, but I want lone wolf Guts back.

>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee where's my needless rape and super nihilisric Guts who would have become hate able had he never grown!

>Needless rape
Ignoring that, wasn't the whole point of Berserk that evil doesn't exist? I mean, Guts is obviously a fucking awful monster, while Griffith is the hero of the world.

thats a half truth. The manga improved till around the early 00's, but since then it has only gets more and more stylized which takes out all the dark essence of Berserk.

i don't think it's needless if it's in berserk, that's just how it works

>Dragon's Dogma
Literally the perfect setting, wish the map was bigger. How's the MMO?

suikoden 2
nier automata

why do you have to remind us

If you want a story with needless mindless violence / sex, Game of Thrones is for you.

Everything in Berserk has a purpose; the sexual violence is never used "just because".

Isn't the left one more recent? Because I think it looks less stylized that the right.

griffith did nothing wrong

I don't know which is which.

How is the use of high impact sexual violence in Berserk any difference from GoT? I haven't watched GoT in years, so maybe things changed, but isn't it just another way of world building?

Unfortunately not. The art style is kind of fucked now.

sure thing cuck

Everyone already knows this.

>the art style is kind of fucked now
I think it's honestly just him using a tablet and software to draw, probably isn't used to that shit

Final Fantasy Tactics?

That's kind of sad. Maybe the old man's finally dying, huh?

mother 3

Drakengard 1.

left is older, right is newer. Thats why pic is mocking in the moe style Miura uses now

>forgetting Griffith literally got this powers from the literal Idea of Evil.

>Guts
>Guddo

I have only read the first 2 tomes and what I liked the most was the art. Knowing about this giant drop in quality really bums me out.

literallly no manga that runs this long is immune to this. they all change, whether the artist wants it or not. right looks fine anyway. it's all context. how the rest of the characters look in relation to guts is important. at least it didn't suffer as much as fist of the north star. talk about hideous transformation.

Demon Path in Soul Nomad

>forgetting Griffith is viewed as a saviour

This doesn't even look bad, just different.

show me examples from FotNS, I'm curious bc I never read the manga

the problem isnt if they art changed, the problem is why. And its because Miura doesnt give a fuck anymore about Berserk. He would rather spend his time playing Idolmaster or DQ while eating shit in his room rather than putting effort making more chapters. He now only makes 1 chapter every 2 months and still looks worse than he used to make it in 2 weeks.

>he thinks this is moe

>cult of Slan is a giant cannibal orgy when they could have just been cannibalizing victims
>the troll cave

I’m sorry, but while shit like Casca’s rape is pretty important, most of the other stuff is gratuitous.

i never said it looked bad, but clearly the style is much more "cute" and friendly than the old berserk. Guts doesnt look anymore like the tough guy that has seen horrible shit all his life, he looks like an average shonen manga protag now.

We're close to the end, right? At least 75%, RIGHT?

still looks fine. he should wrap it up though. he could always do a spinoff or something.

He already did a spinoff on a character literally nobody cared about

Also this. Good god, the gameplay sucks balls, but it's got a pretty interesting tone. By interesting I mean bleak as fuck.
The large scale battles do remind me of the Golden Age though.

Just watch, it's because the elf world makes you look cute or something. Once they leave or Griffith rapes them all again the art style will return to normal

I hate to be THAT GUY, but Demon's Souls.

shame he's just doing it for a paycheck. I understand, but kind of screws over longtime fans.

Does anyone feel like another eclipse-tier event is about to happen? I love the characters but I can't trust Miura to keep them alive much longer.

Berserk will never end because Miura has written himself into a horrible hole. The last decade has been about curing Casca, and there is no way he will be able to make her return satisfying enough to make up for that. It'll be another two years before they leave the island; Casca and Guts will reconcile their demon cuck-baby and live happily ever after, Griffith will be neoJesus and Miura can fucking finally die and end this twenty year nightmare

It's the only way to save the series at this point.

it's guts' baby.

who cares if his penis is small

Guts will somehow enter and traverse the abyss and destroy the Idea of Evil, bringing Griffith and the entire god hand back to their pre-eclipse state.

I can't think of any other way Guts can get his revenge.

That's more or less the atmosphere of the general area. Night times, swamps, caverns, dungeons, and the pit are pretty spooktacular, and the story (while muddled with the occasional Japanese hamfistedness or absurdity) goes surprisingly south just far enough in a lot of places.

That's how you know they're evil niggas

>moon

every time

maybe a second eclipse will happen

>An actual Dragons Dogma sequel will never happen

>implying he’s making it up as he goes
nigga miura has probably had the whole story planned out for years now, he’s got this

By the time it gets near the end user, we will all have died from old age.

Planescape: Torment

Elfhelm is a bit twee, but Casca's dream has been the most invested I've been in the series for years.

Just hope that we actually get Casca back as a result.

Diablo I and II?

It's right in the title, my dude.

The first Nier I guess.

The dialogue for a few characters can be a little edgy, but the party isn't afraid to make comedic banter and strive to help their friends amidst the epidemic that's slowly eating away at civilization.

guts like so pampered lol. Life with women.

>He now only makes 1 chapter every 2 months and still looks worse than he used to make it in 2 weeks.
He hasn't put out a chapter in 6 months because we're back on the hiatus train.

This. I unironically almost fucking puked when I saw the womb birthing scene and the trolls RAPING THE WOMEN TO FUCKING DEATH. It isnt even fucking important to the story in anyway. The trolls are just feral autist why do I give a shit they like to fuck? Legit havent touched berserk in months because of that shit and now orgy scenes in movies give me ptsd.

Slan is decadence though, but I don't recall them worshipping her, they were just devil worshippers. Actually, outside of Guts, Apostles and a few others I don't think anyone knows the names of any of the God Hand.

Knock on wood, but I kind of doubt it. Something bad will probably force them to leave Elfhelm, but I don't think Miura built up the new party just for another total massacre. Especially with how lenient he's been with the safety of the cute/comic relief characters in the new group.

If Isidro was introduced during the first Black Swordsman arc I feel like he would have died in twenty minutes.

Off yourself, weakling

Arcanum at some points?

I love Drakengard 1, but the story cranks the grimdark up to eleven once you get past Route A. Granted that's also when it gets the most interesting.

>not being desensitized to shit like this
>almost puking while reading manga
>literally too pussy to read Berserk
kek

Fuck you nigger. I've been surfing this shithole since my teens and seen terrible things here that didnt hit me nearly as close to home as that entire scenario did to me. It doesnt help when you actually arent a fedora tipper and do believen the forces of good and evil in religion

I was watching the anime and literally closed the video after realizing what I just saw and my mind trying to process that shit. The manga managed to be even worst when I started reading it. Just talking about it gives me the shivers.

you should read Goblin Slayer

>frog
You're just weak

Berserk is overrated as fuck and hasn't been good for years

We have a female in the vicinity

>watching the anime
Off yourself twice
>posting memefrog
Thrice

It's like all you niggas ain't keep up with the manga, bruh.

>Guts suffers terrible pain when he comes anywhere near the Godhand
>He now has an armor that not only allows him to unleash his full sanic-speed potential, but also makes him immune to pain
>He will tear one of the God hand a new asshole, not Fento, though
>Maybe HE DOES give Griffith a new boypussy, but in doing so he looks like an ass in front of Falconia and suffers a reversal of luck
>Guts' fucking Behelith causes a new eclipse, and Griffith had planned it all along to get Guts by his side as the only members of the God hand

Ya'll nigs stay woke.

Are you saying you don't like the boat?
Why would anyone say that?

>Guts' Behelit
That's Puck's 'lil Bechi.

>Implying I give a shit about goblins fucking humans
Nigga thats my fetish. The problem is Berserk makes you heavily invested in its story. It makes me BELIEVE its horror.

>he will tear one of the god hand a new asshole
Even with berserker armor Guts is like a flea attacking an elephant. There's no possible way he can directly attack a God Hand member and win, he has to kill the source of their power.

>God hand are all pretentious dicks
>They severely underestimate Guts' capabilities
>They fail to recognize his sword is basically magic now and should be able to hurt them, or his armor
>Guts just does a rage-fueled front flip or some shit and wrecks the little midget one, or hurts Slan
>Void will get killed by Skullknight, who will then pass on some Mcguffin to Guts before dying or fucking off
>Stage gets set for a second Eclipse in Falconia

Why else would Griffith be gathering all those fuckers under one roof? That city is going to become an all you can rape buffet, and Guts will be stuck in the middle of it.

Don't forget when they showed that apostle fighting arena, the one fighting was the one that ate Guts' hand.

i tought the art of FotNS imrpved as it went on, but i stopped reading after they introduced raoh due to the scans becoming shitty, could you please explain what went wrong?

I know Schierke and Farnese are quite literally in Casca's mind, but knowing Miura, I'm fully expecting him to not bring Casca back. And even if she does comeback, will she remember who Isidoro, Serpico, Puck, and Farnese/Schierke are?

Guts hasn't even permanently killed one god hand yet. Each of those will be 10 years long.

Why would Griffith kill everyone in Falconia? That goes directly against his dream.

>He never beat the dragon.

I'll say the first Dragon Age and maybe the second

I'm not sure if Griffith has any other end-goal at this point, but I could imagine the other Godhand stirring things up.

He wouldn't be killing them, man. He is setting the stage to force Guts into ascending through another Eclipse.

His dream is to get Guts back, literally all that drives him is getting back at him for earning his freedom on that snowy day.

Falconia is just another step of his master plan

>will she remember who Isidoro, Serpico, Puck, and Farnese/Schierke are?
I kind of doubt it. My guess is that if she does regain sanity, she'll remember everything up to the Eclipse, but anything afterwards will be hazy. Like trying to remember a dream.

It'll probably be a pretty awkward transition.

Part of me thinks she won't even recognize Guts at first. Just because of how different he looks compared to how he did at The Eclipse.

Would you say the Drakengard games are worth playing now?

berserk girls are cute

Try nier, the original one, and then maybe automata

I had a very weird obsession with the first Drakengard. I spent days grinding the weapons to their max level, beat the game countless times and even re-bought it over the years because I lost it in moves, or it got stolen.

The games are very poorly put together, you basically go through them for the characters, story and Yoko's balls to the wall insanity.

You can go on Youtube, watch all the cutscenes and dialogue and save yourself the trouble. If you want to experience something close to the game, though, just play the battle BGM for about eight hours while punching yourself in the dick.