Game released in 2004

>game released in 2004
>still the best open world game ever created

how is this possible

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It came out at a time when you could just fill a game with activities instead of wasting two years tuning physics.

It came out at a time when they focused on making good games and not shoving SJW shit in it

I replayed it recently and had a lot of fun.
Managed to do the "damn train" mission on my first try. Also got "City Slicking" on my first try.
The missions I had a hard time with were the flight school (of course), "Fender Ketchup" (scare the mob guy tied to the hood of your car by driving crazy), and that one where you have to steal the police bikes.
It's well worth it to do the burglary and fire truck missions early on. Unlimited sprinting and being fireproof are so useful.

By actually having shit to do

>Unlimited sprinting and being fireproof

didn't even know it was in the game

Yep, all you have to do for fireproofing is complete 12 levels of the firetruck mission, which isn't that hard, especially if you start it in a flatter area where there's less chance of rolling over.

For the unlimited sprinting, you have to steal $10k worth of goods during a single burglary run. Best thing to do is find two houses with doors that are very close and switch between them. If you do that, the goods in each one will constantly respawn when you enter the other house.

The ambulance missions, on the other hand, are a total fucking bitch.

>"Fender Ketchup" (scare the mob guy tied to the hood of your car by driving crazy)

Did you play with Frame Limiter on or off?

>I wasted all that time maxing my stamina when I could've just been stealing shit

Fuck off nostalgia fag

Why was GTAIV such a huge downgrade?
There's almost no mission variety; they almost all boil down to "chase someone down in a car" or "kill building full of bad guys."
Getting around is frustrating as fuck because they decided to make the roads as realistic as possible. There's even goddamn toll booths. Who at Rockstar said, "you know what's fun? coming to a complete stop to pay a fucking toll!"
The whole dating mechanic is annoying. Time after time, I'd get to the next mission marker, only to have someone call and ask to hang out seconds before I walked into it. No, I don't want to drive all the way across the map and back. The dates themselves are no fun at all, unless you want to play a shitty bowling minigame.

New revisions of the game made some missions easier.

There's one little area with its own hospital that makes paramedic really easy. Still takes like an hour to get through.

The only thing I liked about IV was the driving. The city is boring and you can't even buy real estate, fly planes, or modify your cars like you could in SA. After the missions are done there's nothing to do, it's not fun dicking around in IV like it was in SA, since the environment is so boring and there's police everywhere.

Every care felt like you were driving a behemoth 70's Cadillac that had soap put on the tires.

got super popular.
faggot writers want to go "legit"
writing was shit from iv to v.

Well, I liked going sideways everywhere in muscle cars.

Nothing to do, smaller map, way less variety in weaponry, boring missions, awful driving mechanics, way less variety in vehicles, NIKO WANNA GO BOWLING??

IV had its own charm,i enjoyed it. I liked how grim and dark the atmosphere was

Zelda BOTW beat it

SA was great because it wasn't all too serious and had a lot of funny moments and characters. It's like with IV they decided that everything in the game needs to be serious business.

Finally muh realism allowed me to drive a bus on my own made up bus route and not get rear ended by the AI every time I stop.

I kind of liked how the wanted to do a more realistic GTA with IV but the problem was they didn't really make a coherent vision for how to actually do that in a fun way. It feels like every aspect of the game was done piecemeal and no one was talking to anyone else and then when it was all put together at the end it felt like a boring, bland mess. It also suffers from the "massive budget but abysmal productivity" disease that plagues a lot of these large games where (even ignoring the marketing budget) they don't have a great deal to show relative to the enormous sums they poured into it.

Haven't played GTA V but I hear it's not a nearly as good as SA and has the same bloated, disunified development problem GTA IV had. At least I hear the radio stations are a lot better, IV's music was fucking garbage apart from the Russian station.

>2004
There's your answer

>The ambulance missions, on the other hand, are a total fucking bitch.
I tried it for the first time a few months ago. Finished it in San Fierro without any trouble. You just need to plan your routes and you should get a lot of extra time.

>Spend what feels like forever making it to level 10 on ambulance
>Accidentally hit the enter/exit vehicle button when adjusting my hand position on the keyboard
>CJ gets out of the vehicle
>No timer to get back in; instant failure
Might be the maddest I've ever been at a game.

The 360 and PS3 versions are also good.

entire GTA franchise is shit and you should feel bad for liking it

okay mr. contrarian, what should we like then?

I loved GTA IV. San Andreas is a bit better, but I still replayed IV two times since it first came out, and I still play the multiplayer from time to time. It's got a unique eastern european aesthetic that's pretty unrepresented in most big budget games. People shit on IV way too much.

If this game was released today, people would complain about it being "SJW garbage". Retard.

More like SJWs would complain about having African-American criminals and gangs in the game.

How the fuck would San Andreas be SJW shit at all you fucking retard lmao

>the minoritues in the game are universally stupid and violent
>plenty of racism
maybe pro police cucks would complain about how it potrays police

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so Sup Forums agree that this is the best open world and probably the best game ever ?

Vice City was better though

Better atmosphere, sure. It was also my first GTA, so it holds a special place in my heart.

Is Rockstar going to release a HD re-release of this or something?
I'm wondering since there has been these weird san andreas threads every day recently. Seems like guerilla marketing.

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Is this modpack worth it?

This

No. They aren't.

CJ is a bitch to his brother, his sister, Ryder, C.R.A.S.H, OG Loc, Truth. Remember how in III and VC the whole purpose of the game is controlling the city getting loaded and stop being controlled by your boss? Well guess what, the whole endgame in SA is a nigga party.

Angel Pine is an effective way to cheese ambulance missions. You can get the perk really fast in there

What're the best graphics mods for it? I want to replay it and that would enhance my experience.

The problem with IV is that it feels TOO western european, its basically one of those super depressive obscure european movies, you get more and more rich but Niko's soul is still empty, you can still hear him complain about not having enough money when he has a lambo and a pent house on central park.

Wait for the V mod, I could never get into GTA for that reason, the games were butt ugly.

>CJ is a bitch to
Sweet is a bigger bitch back, his sister puts him in his place and shuts him up in San Fierro, Ryder is a midget fucked up on sherm who also happens to be a traitor, CRASH are corrupt cops, OG Loc is a punk who got more help out of CJ than he deserved and Truth gets CJ into some crazy shit with no explanation

Now that's a re-release that I would actually buy, as long as it doesn't have forced DRM.

SA had all these great memorable characters such as Big Smoke, Tenpenny, Toreno and Truth.
IV has uuhh... I guess Roman and you only remember him because he's incredibly annoying.

>still the best open world game ever created

No, this just became the best open world game ever, and this has been well established by the critical consensus.

Mission variety is an overrated concept. I enjoyed IV's missions far more than SA. If you actually replay SA, most of the missions are garbage, there are only a handful of good ones like The Black Project. Just because the missions are more gimmicky does not make them good. I would much rather have focused gameplay instead of tons of variety. IV's best mechanics were driving and shooting, so why not make that what most of the missions are about?

Killing a bunch of bad guys in an area is fun, so what's the problem if most missions are like that? Besides they often take place in different situations, like a museum, or after an interview at an office, or in central park.

Also regarding music, Vice City was the best with numerous good radio stations and great songs. SA also had good memorable radio stations such as K-Rose and K-DST.
On the other hand, I can't even remember one single radio station from IV, because they were all so bland.

It's not fun when almost every mission involves killing bad guys. It gets too repetitive very fast.
It's like defending those radiant fetch/kill quests in Skyrim and Fallout 4, sure your target and location always changes but it's still doing the same thing over and over which sucks.

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>getting golds in driving school

Holy shit what fucking cancer

It came in a time before microtransactions.

gta4 is better. you are blinded by nostalgia.

>doing the og loc beach dance mission
>need 4000 points but it's only 2500 on newer versions
>apparently missing button presses somehow, probably input lag
well i guess i'm never finishing this then

Are you on PC? I hear those sorts of missions get fucked up if your PC's been on for awhile.

Or just recruit a gang member, try to open the van door until the member gets in, shoot him dead, and get into the van via his door and drive off

ps2 but i'm using my monitor. probably going to try the shortcut later

GTA isn't open world though, it's a sandbox. Nothing you do outside linear story missions affects the world

Are you retarded?

Open world turned gameplay into chores where you fetch
Open world made level design less personal and more generic
Open world is cancer to vidyia that keeps on spreading like a disease
Open world is a mistake
Open world needs to end and Sup Forums needs to stop glorifying it

>WHAT AN OUTRAGE, THE PROTAG IS A FUCKING NIGGER, HERE'S A GRAPH THAT PROVES THAT THEY ARE NOT REALLY HUMANS
Sup Forums finds a way.

Nno it wouldnt because SA portrays niggers as niggers

But user, tolls are a tax to keep the roads upkept and it's really the only way society stays together.

LOUISIANA WOMAN

Zelda, for instance.

MISSISSIPPI MAN

Tolls are for privately funded or owned roads, bridges or highways, so the government can pay the investment back. At least that's how it works in my country anyway; once the investment has been paid off, the tolls can't remain open.

In my counyry, tolls keep working as long as there's a road and they are pretty expensive for the shit they offer.

but Sup Forums would love it because it portrays niggers and mexicans as violent gangbanging drug dealers, just like irl

You don't have to do the dancing game at all. Look up a speed run for GTA:SA and you'll see how they skip the dancing minigame. It's easy to do.

You know, it's ironic, I've wanted to go on that one trip for a long time now, but I still can't afford it because the tolls are too high.

>a game with James Woods
>SJW

sure thing

Here you go. I'd post the full Twitch link, but it won't allow it.
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Found one on Youtube, but no audio.
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fuck you kid

>DUUUUUUR WHATTYA MEAN I CANT GO AROUND DOING RETARDED SHIT ALLL THE TIME CAUSE IM SUCH A FUCKING ADHD SPASTIC I CANT SIT FUCKING STILL FOR TWO SECONDS OMMMFFFFGGG WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A TOLL BOOTH WHY CANT I FLY AROUND LIKE IN SAINTS ROW 4 DUUUUURRRRRRRR
FUCK OFF

Because it was made with love instead of cynically trying to get you spend money on skins or multiplayer currencies. They gave it all to make it good game. They can improve the AI, the combat, the driving, and their oh-so-clever le satire xD social commentary in the following games, but San Andreas will always be R*'s magnum opus.

The only flaw I can think of is the non-standard missions that require you to partake in completely different and weird playstyles, and a lack of a checkpoint mechanic. Giving the player a huge playground and locking shit behind unlikeable mechanics is just cruel.

Using it with my fresh install right now, this time I couldn't be bothered with manually installing the downgrader, widescreen fix, silent patch, etc. Everything works fine but the game chimps out when you disable the frame limiter. I wish there was a 60FPS with unfucked physics option.

Using your day out of middle school productively, I see.

using your parents wifi i see

It was an attempt to showcase SO THIS.... IS THE POWER.... OF PS3.... WOW..... instead of pushing the boundaries to make the best game they could, unlike SA. Hence all the regress and decline.

If you told me the GTA installment after San Andreas would take the series back 5 years I would lmao @ your life.

Fucking mongol. What's the matter? Mommy didn't fix you a bowl of animal shaped noodles today?

dont ever fuckn reply to me again or else

Else.

Rockstar should have stuck with making period games, like this one. They are better at it.

>wtf I have to play as a black dude?! fuck this forced diversity tumblr shit!

Fucking around with cheats in a big world is always fun.

Seems like a small thing, but i really think it boils down to player housing. Its a nice way to make you feel like youre progressing in the story, even if some interiors are reused. I love me that san fierro home on top of the really windy road. Vice city stories may have had a greater number of save spots, but only cause they were businesses, not actual houses. They were kinda customizable, which was nice, and is a feature i hope returns, but it probably wont.

All i wanted was a way to save in an rv and use it like a house. No gta has done it and since v introduced save anywhere on your phone, they probably never will. Theres a mod for it in san andreas, but its very clunky

I had a vehicle trainer that let me rapidly spawn vehicles without having to type in the codes every time. My favorite thing to do was get on top of a convenience store, surround it with hovercraft, and then try to survive after throwing a grenade down.

i've seen one mod that makes it look like V tho

muh gwafeks

it utilizes every part of the map effectively in the main story, and there are plenty of side activities.

I don't want an HD re-release, the game is fine on its own as it is.

IV had plenty of memorable characters. V is the one where most of the cast are forgettable.

>The ambulance missions, on the other hand, are a total fucking bitch.
Try doing the ambulance missions on gta3. I did them last week to get the trophy on ps4, absolute shitfest.

if you didn't complete this mission this way you're casual scum

holy fuck put your spaghetti back in your pockets

gta is the only series i can tolerate watching speedruns

they also attract the least autistic people in the speedrunning community.

GTA IV had fun online, you couldn't buy anything to had to find it. People would get the military chopper and gun down others trying to get those.

I miss those days