Fighting games inevitably end up causing people to get salty because of the 1v1 aspect. There are no teammates to heap blame onto to "explain" a loss. As we continue into the 21st century, games are being designed to accommodate players who want to jump into a match and feel good about themselves even if their ability is poor. This is why arena FPS and RTS games have died in favor of MOBAs and games like Overwatch and PUBG.
A person ragequits when his ego can't reconcile his lack of skill with his perceived level of ability. It doesn't make much sense to get mad at ragequitters - in fact, many people love it when it happens. Let them be and hope that they will reign in their egos a bit in the future.
Fighting games are my favourite type of games. I play them every day.
Hudson Ortiz
You know it's true
Jack Sullivan
I don't play sfv because it's an awful game. In fact, most of the genre is awful atm.
Parker Bennett
I played Vampire Saviour back in the day in the arcades (neo/v/ doesnt know what those are) and I can say that modern fighting games are gutter trash. No reason to play them.
Liam Taylor
There's a shitload of reasons actually
>incredibly small playerbase >shitloads of mechanics and character specific traits >You usually can't play people from other regions >It costs a lot of money to keep with one game, let alone multiple of them. >It takes a considerable amount of time to not be a shitter.
Joseph Martin
Sup Forums is full of weebs and redditors and both are profoundly bad at games. The former having severely stunted IQ and dexterity and the latter is extremely casual and underage thus they have only even played modern easy shit.
Aiden Phillips
i honestly agree, most of the fighters from this gen have plenty of stuff that i don't like so i feel less inclined to actually play them.
Jason Perez
I got mad at a ragequitter not long ago, because they were on a 19 win streak and were obviously point farming so when they lucked out and got to a decent league they could brag to their friends about it. Took a video but couldn't send it to him or any of his friends because he was a pussy who had it set to where his friends didn't show and didn't accept messages/invites.
Connor Smith
post them
Christopher Bailey
>You usually can't play people from other regions
Funny, the feature I wish was in SFV over all else is a region filter so I don't have to play with people from other regions.
Jayden Collins
>Funny, the feature I wish was in SFV over all else is a region filter
doesnt it already shows the flag from the lobby host? Also, the connection quality is pretty much a decent region filter.
The fact you cant play people from other regions is because it requires a really good connection while other games, such as shooters have game elements to deal with delay.
Christopher Murphy
That flag means nothing, my brother uses the Albanian flag despite living in Canada
Samuel Lewis
>Want to get gud at fighting games >have to dedicate hours to learning and practising
The biggest offense is that you have to keep practicing and playing or else tour skills will rust and fade. So you cant enjoy other vidya.
Camden Powell
>incredibly small playerbase depends on the game you only need one other person to play with, not a whole team
>shitloads of mechanics and character specific traits yes
>You usually can't play people from other regions so
>It costs a lot of money to keep with one game, let alone multiple of them. how is this exclusive to fighting games and you know there haven't been that many extra paid versions for newer games this gen
>It takes a considerable amount of time to not be a shitter. depends on the game some games might be more fun to be a shitter because otherwise it becomes a setplay fighter
Owen Ross
Not true. I take breaks more often than I should, you will always retain what you learned and it'll only take a few warm-up rounds to kick yourself back into gear when you jump back in. Once you get good enough you can more or less stay in prime fightan condition by just playing a few hours a week
Ryan Rivera
I play fighting games, I just don't play boring ones like SFV.
Benjamin Hughes
I started playing USF4 again for the first time in a few years and I can do everything I could back then. It's like riding a bike, nigga.
Ayden Murphy
>you only need one other person to play with, not a whole team true, but small player bases usually mean very little to no beginners which makes it difficult for people to keep up. >so it means that the player base is actually much smaller than it looks since you have people you wont be able to play. >how is this exclusive to fighting games
it is not but it affects fightans way more >and you know there haven't been that many extra paid versions for newer games this gen Yeah, this gen only and we are still getting this kind of shit, not even counting shit like dlc which also affects fightans more than other genres. >depends on the game but it is true that the huge majority takes way more than than your average game,skill and knowledge wise. >some games might be more fun to be a shitter because otherwise it becomes a setplay fighter
that's subjective to the person playing the game. some like to fuck around and some don't. Point is to get some what decent you need a considerable amount of time if compared to other more popular genres.
Tyler Young
Because it requires actually socialising to get better and 99% of Sup Forums are socially stunted/autistic retards. Sup Forums is notorious for stupid comments when it comes to fighting games because no one actually plays them.
Luke Morgan
Play Under Night In-Birth Exe Late[st]
Alexander Torres
I would but I'm waiting for english release and PC
Nolan Turner
i would but it will be doa in my region since, as i remember, it will launch at the same time as DBFZ.
i might get it on pc some day.
Brody Price
>LOOOL stupid Sup Forumsirgins don't play fighters am I right bros?? >*plays sfv*
You tards play the worst fighting game out there and preach to others? Come on.
Not everyone has to enjoy fighters. I play them and I'm totally cool if people don't like them. I have as equal respect for arena shooter or RTS players.
Overwatch and mobas can suck a fat cock though.
Yuzu looks like such bullshit. Like johnny except everything is mist finer lvl3. I'll probably play jewpuncher.
Mason Perez
Will it get a timely PC release and not 18 months later?
Nicholas Wright
I can't tell if this is false flagging or not anymore, but this influx of supposed vampire saviour players who hate everything else recently is a real riot.
Feels like Sup Forums talking about ggxxac before xrd was released
Logan Bennett
You're going to be waiting a while Just play in the lobbies She's fun Doubtful
Joshua Jackson
Anyone want to play vsav on fc2? I main bish.
Brayden Perez
>you have to spend hours every day practicing Every single person who says this hasn't touched a fighting game in at least a decade, there's no fucking way you actually think something like SF5 or MKX takes anywhere near that much practice to get decent at.
Josiah Reyes
The late PC releases for Blazblue, GG, and other anime fighters are 99% of the reason I don't buy fighting games. Fighting sonybros who have had the game for a year day 1 on PC is cancer.
Nolan Hall
knowing Arc, I can't say for sure. They used to be horrible with their PC releases, but recently the gap between console and PC release has been getting shorter. We can only hope we don't have to way too long.
Jordan Ross
we do play them....
Jackson Sanchez
There are a few things that people say to get cred. One of them is that they play vsav, gg and that they hate sfv. Sup Forums does this all the time.
Asher Bell
The Chad Melee player vs the Virgin SFV player
Robert Ward
>One of them is that they play vsav let's play
Isaac Morgan
>sonybros I don't normally take part in console wars and didn't know sony nigger was autocorrected now.
Leo Campbell
Maybe not for execution, but everything else still means that you get your ass kicked by anyone with more time with the game. It's just how fighting games work.
Jacob Wood
I think the biggest barrier to entry and the real reason why fighting games fail to attract and keep new players isn't because of hard inputs or high difficulty but simply because the games provide and explanation. Guilty Gear and Skullgirls are the only ones this gen that have had tutorials that went over basic fighting game fundamentals like active frames, blockstrings, pressure, space control, anti-airs as well as explaining the games' specific mechanics like faultless defense, bursts, etc. The average consumer needs that sort of shit spelled out for them and the vast majority of fighting games provide jack shit. Hell, look at what SFV launched with.
William Lopez
I suppose that's part of it, but i think the real reason is that there isnt any way to get better. Either you trashed somebody or someone trashes you. How do you get better in that environment? Either you learn bad habits, or you learn the equivalent of "Don't get hit."
If you don't have a local scene, theres no way to fight people on your level. Especially in anime fighters, Its vs. a guy that took the last week off to practice in the lab, and is ready to make it up to red square, no problem.
Thats the ONLY type of people you will find left online, and that makes it a MUCH less enjoyable experience.
Jeremiah Cooper
does anyone want to play vsav or ST on FC
people started talking about older fighters, now I want to play something
Thomas Wright
UNI has it's own bullshit but it's not like GG or Blaz. You'll like UNI[st]
Nathaniel Nelson
Playing fighting games turns video games into a fucking job. You have to treat it like a fucking job to get good at it. No fucking thanks.
Juan Brooks
That's right user, expending effort is pointless and instant gratification is the end-all.
Charles Kelly
If you love your job you'll never work a day in your life
Ian Bennett
>and is ready to make it up to red square, no problem. I hate how the squares work in BB >stuck on red square because no one else I play with is red square (last dude I ranked him down before I could rank up) >guy I practice with regularly is pink square >I can't get to the final colour even if I want to
Kevin Fisher
Yeah, but I'm not getting paid to get good at fucking fighting games. Ergo, it's fucking pointless.
Charles Kelly
If you love your job you'll never work a day in your life
Tyler Roberts
>Can't find enjoyment in improving at things I bet you don't even casually excercise either because it'd be a waste of your time
Joseph Walker
cause nobody i know irl plays them and they give up quickly whenever I try to get them too and it gets boring playing alone online
Carter Price
So you make no effort to improve at anything in life? That sounds sad. You should try to be good at everything you do.
Aiden Carter
Nah, I exercise more seriously than casually cause it actually does something positive for my life unlike practicing fighting games.
Isaiah King
I play sc2 and I just dont find enjoyment in the strategy of fighting games, knowing each and every frame and the combos in certain games are stupid long But I do agree that the 1v1 element is what makes these games not as popular to a extent, since you know you were worse than the other guy if you lost
Luke Wilson
If you love your job you'll never work a day in your life
Andrew Gray
Yeah, spending an entire lifetime butting your head against a brick wall is the best way to live.
Grayson Scott
Take it easy sometimes, but why would you ever intentionally be bad at something.
Dylan Wright
Poor analogy, or we wouldn't have people that are good at anything in this world. Just leave the thread you depressive defeatist faggot, go do something easy and quick that will give you a fleeting endorphin release since you hate and fail to understand the concept of satisfaction in work and steady progression.
Dominic Miller
enjoy never being good at anything in life
Jeremiah Richardson
>tfw terrible at everything and only not completely useless when on supporting roles At least I'm not Dunning-Kruger'd up the ass like most people out there. I still get my ass kicked at any game I try though.
Daniel Sanchez
If you love your job you'll never work a day in your life
Justin Wood
i play street fighter injustice mortal kombat and tekken
Dominic Collins
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Kayden Diaz
The reason I don't like conventional fighting games is because I like games that have simple inputs with intuitive but complex application.
For an example let's walk though a movement option for getting over some walls in mario odyssey. Buttons first, near a wall: A, Z, A, stick towards wall +(A,Y,Z,Y) Now what each of those buttons did, jump, groundpound, jump after hitting ground resulting in a higher jump, wall jump, hat throw, start ground pound, dive out of pound into hat. Each input has a logical reason to be part of the move.
And then you have conventional fighting games where they make you put in some spaghetti movements into the stick and hit some buttons in order to dial the phone number of the move you want to do.
It's a shame the rest of the Tekken 7 OST isn't this good.
Kayden Butler
You're acting like there's anything wrong with this. Fighting games aren't popular outside of the FGC for a damn good reason, and that's because people don't LIKE losing and being told outright they're worse than someone else. Who wants to be told that? Does that really make you want to strive to improve? If you answered "yes", it's because you're a fucking freak and no one else outside of your little clique agrees with you. The rest of humanity aren't masochists. We play for pleasure, guaranteed gratification, and not this garbage about "earning your fun".
Sometimes you wanna just chill out with a game without getting into some sort of dick-measuring contest. None of this "climbing summits" or "surpass your limits" bullshit is what I feel like doing when I wanna have some fun.
Whatever game you got that screencap from, throw it in the garbage can since that looks like inputs to simple counters of all things and the inputs don't even flow. It's probably some dead anime game, just play SFV and Tekken, much easier inputs and a focus on fundamental play without causing you to fall to bits over execution autism (at least until you start learning things like KBD or ISW in Tekken, which can be hard)
Chase Ward
my point is the dev team is shit i'd rather play guilty gear than uniel any day of the week
Nicholas Cook
You gotta tell me why it sucks.
Isaiah Roberts
Ergo, Sup Forums doesn't play fighting games because they'd need to take years to just about be not shit.
Colton Johnson
Melee is the only good fighting game and it gigatriggers FGCucks.
Brandon Ortiz
I play melee, sfv and tekken7
Benjamin Phillips
It's a boring fighter, with bland art, a bad control scheme, and is unbalanced as hell. It does what guilty gear and blazblue do but just worse in almost every regard
Jackson Ward
>mfw too intelligent to play fighting games and instead just fap to the girls
Zachary Peterson
Is Dead or Alive a dead anime game?
Michael Watson
She's pretty finnicky and definitely not bullshit where you just have mfcanceling making all your normals +. If you get in on her then she'll have issues. If you play Jewpuncher just treat her like Dhalsim and bide your time until you can strike.
Sebastian Green
i prefer fighting games for those reasons. 1v1 means i am shit, 5v5 or whatever means i have to expect 4 other people to not be braindead
Kayden Bell
>melee players >Chads LMAO
Brody Watson
Pretty much.
Kevin Nguyen
me too go suck your dad off
Jaxon Torres
Dead or Alive? I haven't played that game in years and years. To the best of my knowledge the people that play it now just treat it like a softcore porn game that they can fap to instead of a fighting game, and that bodes ill of your ability to find people to play with to me. Regardless, anything with diagnol up inputs as part of an input chain instead of an SPD or single move is probably not worth your time
Aiden Garcia
SFV lobby when?
Gabriel Reyes
Put cfw on my ps3 to try it with friends, or at least the previous version of it. It seems alright but I can't find a character that clicks with me.
Isaac Carter
I simply don't have the time to put in to play anymore. I was great at SF4, but i had all the time in the world then
Hudson Brooks
Tell that to Diago who took a break before dominating SFIV and now has stagnated in SFV since he refuses to break.
There is also Jeff Schaffer who didn't play SF2 for decades and showed up one day and whooped a bunch of Japs including the gods in casuals.
Blake Howard
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Blake Hall
>Makes six figures playing a video game alone (as a hobby) >Literally an engineer with a phd in Physics, uses his knowledge to hit back airs consistently >Has a wife and kids; lives right besides Bill Gates
Daniel Mitchell
I was able to find a character I really liked with the mission mode they added into [st].
Carson Brown
It's clear that beginners who constantly play with great people are more likely to become great themselves or quit. This has happened in a bunch of fighting games (Bonchan, Neo, etc.), Quake, and RTS. Yes more people will probably quit, but if you're nicer you may get more to stay and become great in a much faster time.
Dylan Jackson
>I was great at SF4 Sure you were
Brayden Howard
Tekken is cool tho
Lucas Reed
Doesn't T7 have more native input lag than SFV?
Jack Morris
>smells like shit
Caleb Turner
>smash player >PRO smash player >yank >engineer >engineer in physics
wow who knew
Jordan Collins
On ps4 only, also, they are actively working on removing this (Harada-san said so himself on twt finals)
And since the fastest move on the game ( a jab) is 9f startup and frame values are generally way bigger than street fighter it ends up being less of a difference (still a huge one for pros tho)
James Foster
Taking a breather and returning with a new or fresh perspective helps more than banging your head against a wall.