Is this the best basegame civ yet?

Is this the best basegame civ yet?

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Yes, but 4 complete and 5 complete are still far better as it stands now

Came to say just this.

call to power

fpbp

I like some of the features in civ 6 like districts but the game overall is trash right now

Maybe in a few expansions will fix it

So just like every civ

Civ 6 is inferior to 5 in every way. Even the base game.

it's getting worse if you're a normal white man
it's getting better if you're a cocksucking faggot leftist who preps Jamal for your fiance every night, or an American feminist whore

Yeah basically

This, what's with all the subpar leaders?

Is it because it's current year?

>inb4 10+ posts of autistic screeching about Sup Forums

Not sure but it's definitely pretty good for a base game. The only thing I'd really complain about are the production costs and the unit tree/upgrade paths.

Really looking forward to see what shape the game will be by the end of 2019.

It has all the systems that Civ 5 had with expansions, but the thing is none of these systems are fleshed out or interesting and some are even detrimental to my enjoyment of the game.

I have only finished one game of Civ 6 and that was back when the game came out. Haven't had the urge to touch it since. The UI is a clusterfuck and I can't access the information that I want during play. Religion is a shit show.

All in all, Endless Space 2 makes Civ 6 look really, really bad.

Didn't fix Beyond Earth

Civ 4 with Caveman2Cosmos is best Civ experience

Religion is a lot more tolerable since the last patch that fixed missionary spam and made them not occupy the same tile spaces as other units.

The bonuses still feel lame compared to Civ V religion though.

it's because it's 2017 you white-ass fascist nazi pig
this game doesn't have nearly enough body positive strong independent women and even less powerful women of colour. move over Caesar and Alexander. make way for Chungo and Tequisha

No, 4 was better

Who is this braphog?

en.wikipedia org/wiki/Wilhelmina_of_the_Netherlands

glad they're not putting in anymore toxic masculinity in this game, fuck the Kingdom of Italy and Carthage, fuck the Khans, Emperors and Tsars of old. make way for Chungo and Tequisha bigots

Netherlands is just kind of devoid of interesting leaders, if you don't want William the Silent you go with either Wilhelmina or William III. That's it, pretty much.

are you upset about it or something

seems to already be here

>Netherlands is just kind of devoid of interesting leaders
That's because Netherlands are devoid of interesting things in general

are you having trouble counting, lad? you linked 2 posts, not 10+

That hurts, user. I always liked playing as them in previous games but that might just be bias

I mean, the thread only has 26 posts and that prediction was made about halfway through - but there already seems to be someone extremely triggered

Actual polders, as in they replace sea tiles?

There is a lot to like gameplay-wise from Civil 6. There are a couple hiccups, like my camera will just keep floating away from where it's looking without me moving it. It's a very solid base game.

I agree the leaders are fucking gay.

>Wilhelmina with a Radio Oranje leader ability
wasn't this predicted by some anons in a previous thread? i remember reading about it

no because it has women in it

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Got announced on Dutch TV by some shitty programme. The question they ask immediately after is "are you going to buy a console for this?"

what's the sauce? can't find anything

Hasn't been announced yet but apparently was seen in a commercial

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>The question they ask immediately after is "are you going to buy a console for this?"

kek

>start game
>settle city, scout around
>try and decide on unique research paths
>end up at the same location either way
>either try early aggression and fail or ride out a 300+ turn science victory
how am I supposed to have fun with these games again? I have V and BNW btw

Even without mods 4 is a beautiful, unpredictable mess
>Be me playing as German
>Mongolian scum expand near me
>I make a new city right next to their borders
>Mongolians migrate into it
>They fucking revolt and join the Mongolians
>Mfw they try to infect my other pure Aryan cities and convert them
I wish I could ban travels from other countries

Mod the fuck outta it and play multiplayer

6 is literally the same shit as 5, but with a few fixes like districts and non-combat unit stacking.
I don't know why you 5tards are so adamant. It's still the same 1UPT shit.
-t. 4fag

>multiplayer
>implying I have friends
>also implying I want to wait around for everyone to make their move every 30 seconds

Jesus christ, polders on coastal tiles, I wonder if the sea tiles adjacent to a polder will also become coasttiles legitable for polders to be build on. Shit looks like a crazy strong civ.

If you're not playing with all aspects, and that includes military, you're playing the game wrong.

AHHHH SUBHUMANS ARE RUINING MY PRISTINE STORMFRONT-APPROVED GAME SERIES

HANG THEM ALL, SHADILAY!

It's what they originally wanted in Civ 5 but couldn't make work in the engine. I'm going to guess new land tiles don't create coast tiles, as that would just enable you to make the entire map land (though it'd be funny).

The zulu legit shouldn't be in the series, though, they don't meet a baseline qualification as a civilization or even a proto-civilization, or some sort of culture that's not a civilization but has abnormally complex political relationships; which you could at least argue for in favor of the Iroquois. for example.

There's plenty of African civs to use, but the Zulu shouldn't be one of them

What? Not only does Civ as a series not follow a very strict what is/what isn't a civilization, the Zulus also definitely qualify as a proto-civilization at the very least.

I just hope the ottoman empire or some other islamic shithole will get a female leader, some concubine of mohammed in best case.

that'd be funny as fuck
nu-Sup Forums isn't much better than muslims in cases of raging about women

you do know there a mode where everyone not at war plays at the same time?
just put a timer if you arent patient

By all metrics of historical analysis, civilization = agriculture, which frees up labor from subsistence farming. This allows for specialists to arise, such as craftsmen, clergy, warriors, learned men, and more. The latter ones go on to create science and art with their literacy, which is the cultural component of civilization.

>By all metrics of historical analysis, civilization = agriculture, which frees up labor from subsistence farming. This allows for specialists to arise, such as craftsmen, clergy, warriors, learned men, and more.
Zulus had all that, though, they had a pretty rigid administrative (military) system in place. It wasn't like some high-developed civilization, but they did have the basics and they're absolutely legible.

The Zulu are a fun civ though

Especially in Civ V they were broken as shit

Yes, I'm arguing against him

I fucking love Shaka, he is one of the best AIs: very aggressive if your army sucks, but the highest loyalty modifier in the game. If you have an early army and manage to make friends, he'll be your bff for the rest of the game.

RTL boulevard?

Yeah, that's where they announced it.
rtl.nl/video/9ef12baa-4cc5-375d-95a5-a139383385bf/ 27 minute mark

Warning: extremely cringeworthy

Civilization isn't just agriculture, there's plenty of agricultural socieites that had none of the other hallmarks of a civilization. I'm not gonna tell you there's a black and white line of what is or isn't a civilization, but there's a collection of traits that tend to indicate it and while there are some that are arguable or nebulous, there's still distinction.

I'm saying they should be a bit more strict. The zulu, huns, shonene, and maybe celts (I don't know much about them, but based on what I know/have heard I would say they don't qualify) really shouldn't be in.

The Iroquouis also shouldn't, but i'd give them a pass since they had a relatively complex political confederacy even if they don't quanlity in other areas, and Mongols obviously get a pass due to their accomplishements even if (correct me if i'm wrong) they themselves were pretty much nomadic herders that just then conquered a bunch of shit and then got wealth and built theiir urban shit and propeed as a result of that. I know too little about the Scyhians to say if they should get a similar pass or not.

If Firaxis wants native american civs (as in, for north america, not mesoamerica/andes), then the Mississippians and Pueblo/ancient peublo were actual early or proto-civilizations; for africa, you have the Mali, songhai, ethiopia, and north african ones such as Carthage and Morroco.

I'm not even making a value judgement ton nomadic or hunter gatherer/tribal soceities, oftentimes cultures were like that or stayed like that just because there was no impetus to do otherwise, not because they chouldn't form a civilization, but the title of the series is "Civilziation", and those soceities would fall into what the Barbarians in game represent.

Also has the best war theme

youtube.com/watch?v=14YHs0375tY

Civilization means cities. Look it up, faggot

I get where you're coming from but you're being pedantic about semantics here, the actual "civilization" part of the series isn't meant to be taken completely seriously. From the first game it's been a TBS with historical flavour, which is why they try to put in as many fun "civilizations" from around the world. It's no judgement on how influential or impressive they were, it's just there to give players a variety of choices when playing the game. Don't look too far into it.

This is also why complaining about the "wrong" leaders in these games is meaningless. Sure, you can argue that Trajan is a worse choice than Augustus, but not choosing the same few leaders over and over is kind of the point. The only leaders I personally take issue with are mythological (Hiawatha) or that weren't leaders (Theodora, Gorgo), because having real historical leaders piques people's interest in those cultures, which is cool. It's a minor point, though.

>His Civilization's leader isn't the worshipped Deity of a major modern religion

I honestly like Wilhelmina because like Selassie the series needs a few more modern leaders

Also: your suggestions for civs are great, but many of those have been in the games already. Pueblo were almost in BNW (instead of the Shoshone), but when they had the Civ completed they went and looked for a voice actor and found out that the Pueblo don't want their historical leaders depicted in a video game, it was a kind of taboo, so they had to scrap them. Shit sucks.

Who's next?

I wish there were more radically unique civs in 6; things like Civ5 Venice

I want to play as the fucking Sea Peoples

We need more shit in the americas and central asia. Nepal would be dope.

I feel like Civ 6 uniques are already a step up from Civ 5, they feel much more powerful, but yeah, you're right.
>tfw no Mali under Mansa Musa civ where you can devalue all the gold other players have

It's already better than V complete, and still much worse than IV complete

Shoe-ins, mostly likely:
>Inca
>Ottomans
>Zulu
>Mongols

...

>kopieer dat

>models the white people leaders after what white people look like

What's the issue here?

this one is still the best

and I actually mean it, it's too bad that the graphics prevent people from playing the best civ game, I play it at least once a year

Master of Magic is fucking incredible, but it's not a Civ game mang

its a civ game where you carefully sculpt your abilities, unit selections, and technology before you start playing

the only difference is the fantasy theme and the grid map (and the hilarious exploits and bugs)

it's called a 4x

I think the source of the misunderstanding is the hex map-that is a recent change, the early civ games looked exactly like the MoM picture I posted

it is a civ game (and still the most frequently copied civ game) and to call it otherwise is pedantic

4x is how you characterize games that derived from the turn based expansion concept without following civ's example exactly

C2C is bloated beyond belief

Play Realism Invictus instead

It would be better if she was portrayed as an old lady imo, like in

RTL Boulevard of all places. This is a celebrity gossip show for housewives.

Yeah, but what the heck is up with the gutted unit tree? V had the unit count just about perfect and if anything was lacking a ranged mounted unit line, while this seems to take out major unit lines for no reason. No riflemen? No landships? Not even lancers? Straight from knights to tanks? "Modern Anti-Tank" of all units that is useless as fuck because Mech Inf. and Gunships both counter tanks already and are faster to boot (seriously, Modern Armor and Tanks both need a buff, since as it stands now tanks are as strong as freaking Riflem- I'm sorry, Redcoats and Guarde Imperiale because the actual rifleman unit they correspond to doesn't exist and Modern Armor is flat out worse than Mech Inf. due to a lack of defensive bonuses at the same strength.)

Also miss paratroopers.

Civ is a series, not a genre. MoM wasn't made by Firaxis and isn't part of the series.

>You will never be able to play as your country in a civ game.
Feels bad man

action is coming

I agree, it's kind of weird how they struck a middle ground between the older, stouter woman she was known as, and the prettier young queen she was earlier, making a combination of both that she never was. Like, she was based on this picture, it seems, but she looks way younger in Civ.

Not a big deal I guess because every leader is a heavy caricature, just strange that they didn't make her older.

Shaka is a freak of nature in Civ V since otherwise getting even a single alliance to last the entire game is impossible. Out of all Civ games, V is the ones where all the AI players are insufferable or will find some way to be unhappy at you if you aren't a complete doormat.

I never had that issue, but then I always made a point of having a good military. There's a LOT of civs that respect you more that way. If you stick to sitting within your borders stacking science, yes, that'll happen.

But they were? The Zulu were a legitimate kingdom in a region full of disorganized tribes and even after being conquered were one of the few groups to keep their heads on straight and not devolve into... well, tribalism post-colonialism.

If they were just ogaa booga they wouldn't have lasted as long against the bongs as they did, and they had a professional military at least on-par with Rome in discipline... even if it was a thousand years too late on their end.

Yeah, she could be a cool-angry granny or something. Oh well.

Here's hoping that they don't butcher Cathy in some future DLC.

You are the ruler of your country, what is the worse fate than beign a prisoner for your enemy?
What a retarded bitch, no wonder Russia lost.

man you're boring

It's her fantasy to be captured and violated over and over by big dirty Zulu dick.

*big dirty horse dick

>what is the worse fate than beign a prisoner for your enemy?

Monarchs were rarely killed by their military enemies. It set bad precedent. Assassination from within your own court/family was far more common

Bout to play a standard VI game to eat up my Sunday

How and who should I play?

Australia
Abuse your UA by shitposting everyone so hard they declare war on you, then reap the production profits

Post screens.

This one's fair though, the Netherlands sucks and only warrants being here because Polders are the most /aesthetic/ improvement.
They're trying to avoid leaders who were in V (which goes both ways, it also locked them out of Literally Wu for instance) but besides William the Dutch don't really have anyone else.

>If Firaxis wants native american civs (as in, for north america, not mesoamerica/andes), then the Mississippians and Pueblo/ancient peublo were actual early or proto-civilizations
Problem with those is that you don't have many good leader options that we know about or that those people would be okay with you using, respectively.

Maybe the Hittites will cuck the Ottomans out of a spot this time.
Probably not, but I'd still like to see them return and turkfags deserve it.