>Could this have any majoy impact on out online gaming experiences?
>Will game companies have new obsurd demands that must be met?
>or are we completly safe from harm?
Could this have any majoy impact on out online gaming experiences?
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I don't know but this activism is really annoying
*sips*
Remember that this is all King Obongo's fault.
spite the nose. I hope it rapes this shitty site so underage contrarians can't shitpost with other retards.
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Good free us from this hell
Yes, you lazy nigger. Yes.
nah, eat shit and die cockgobbler.
Can someone give me the quick run down?
>If you happen to have a right wing perspective, google puts your search results on the 10th page
What does this have to do with NN? That's google being shit and they should be held responsible for that also.
>red board
fake news
It doesn't matter either way
spooky stuff
obongo was such a nigger, thank god the DNC blew up
a company (google) is attempting to advert a PR disaster that could result from the accidental promotion of right-wing """news"""/punditry sites and thus tries to place them lower on their search results.
Arguably they do the same thing with anything "controversial" or nuanced and instead promote normie websites because chances are that's what people are actually looking for and not some fucking government whitepaper/memo detailing in incredibly dry language things like budget allocations to various pork-barrel spending projects, but which contain amendments that effect the right of (x) to do (y) in place (z)
FPBP.
It never stops and the reddit outrage just delays shit by between 6 month-2 years at best.
Look I just don't want to have to pay more money to browse Sup Forums
>Comcast and verizon get more control
>Google still controls search results
And the only thing that changes is me potentially having to pay to access steam.
Nothing would change from before NN, or even during it.
Wow it's almost as if you could use any other search engine than google.
Obama was a good man. He was a bastion of integrity the likes of which no cockroach on this board will ever come close to. Is racism really that blinding that people don't see that? The man had no long term motive for power-- he wanted to help people. If he wanted long term democratic power he would had done something about gerrymandering and the electoral college.
But you people will believe whatever you want.
That's because there are people whose jobs are to keep trying to pass this thing for their companies, while nowhere near enough of us are getting paid enough to try to stop it.
The jews did it.
I love when a specific group of anti-NN people will think ending NN will stop jews jewing when it would get much worse since the ISPs can start jewing the same Google and Facebook do, by blocking shit they don't like. Except it would be worse since you are now paying to be blocked.
I dunno, pre-2015 was a dark time. I couldn't play shit while my ISP fucked my ass and took my wallet
This moronic argument that Sup Forums retards use to shill for fucking telecom companies, it's hilarious how some people are so contrarian they now shill for corporations.
Having a physical monopoly over the infrastructure is way different than google's virtual monopoly on search results. Anyone can setup a search engine that works fine and gives you your results, use duckduckgo if you hate google, you can't just setup the infrastructure for the entire US if you don't want to use a specific ISP.
And that's the actual problem and it ain't what they are trying to fix, my point is that even if whatever is going on is stopped it is just a bit more time bought, but the Activists won't capitalize on that time to go on their own offensive because OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND and a new shiny CAUSE appears.
And that is why the eventual failure is guaranteed.
Reddit and Wikipedia and whatever can keep plugging the holes in the boat as much as they want, but there ain't much more boat left and the guy making the holes still has his drill.
The first 80% of this is just "source" the post.
Hurting leftists is far more important than the internet.
Seriously what's the fucking point? They'll just try again same time next year with a few words and names rearranged
so you're saying we should spread our asscheeks?
then why didnt they do what pic related says they could have?
Im saying you already are while half heardedly mewling "PLEASE DON'T FUCK ME YET DADDY" while the big man is lubing his piece up in the hope he will finger you some more first..
That isn't really the problem, the problem is ISPs can prioritize traffic to Netflix and other big sites for a fee and slow everyone else down if NN is repealed.
and youre begging for it
This.
By pointing out the situation and how this song and dance has been performed before and that the OUTRAGE approach is solving shit in the long run? Sure thing friendong, but i would argue it is more like biting the pillow.
the outrage of previous years worked to keep it at bay. imagine if conservicucks didnt focus on schadenfraude and instead say "hey, i dont want to get fucked either," how much that would help? or holding politicians accountable by not voting for them when once they try to pull this shit
meh i'm to apathetic to care about anything. I at least read your pic if want to feel better
Imagine being this delusional. Americuccs. Hope you get nuked :D
Sup Forums retards are a loud as fuck minority. most americans arent retarded in that specific way
This whole internet as a package deal thing is a stupid straw man that wouldn't happen without massive customer outrage. Companies would gain absolutely nothing by doing it.
theyd gain money due to lack of alternative ISPs in many places in America
>few years ago this website fought against big business fucking with the internet
>trump election
>website wants to gargle ISP's balls in their mouth
this place is like a parody now
>mfw Soros pays ISPs to slow down or block right-wing media
>mfw Sup Forums is deemed obscene and problematic and blocked by ISPs
>mfw all torrent traffic and DDL sites are all blocked due to illegality
>mfw the Internet dies
And who exactly would customers turn to if the ISPs started doing it? A local ISP startup business isn't a thing, this isn't like food or retail where options exist. A couple of ISPs own a majority of the internet services right now.
And that's a circle since my whole point is that while it manages to "keep at bay" for now it fails to actually solve the problem.
It is a eternity war at best and inevitable failure at worst.
>horse armor will never catch on! companies would gain absolutely nothing by releasing content like that! every one would be outraged!
>10 years later
>half of a game's content locked behind RNG loot crates for 2.5 dollars, f2p cash shops rule the market
>conservicucks really believe taking away consumer protections will lead to innovation and investment and lower prices
These companies have proven time and time again they don't give a fuck about innovation. 80% or more of the country is still running on 15 year old broadband lines, AT&T and Charter have both cockblocked Google from installing Google Fiber in several places, and that's with Net Neutrality in place.
>being an americuck
not even once. Enjoy your +10$ "Netflix pass" or 5$ monthly "Fast Ping Service for Gamers"
LMAO @ ure lives
Except they would, and it isn't a stupid strawman it's a legitimate concern given the nature of things like zero rating and data caps. It makes plenty of sense for telecom to make the move and take the market forward into that territory as they can charge more for the same level of service or more. Consumer outrage is easily shirked off when your competition is DSL at maybe 5mbps or wireless at the same while costing as much as cable.
The worst part of this is the fed subsidizes their infrastructure but the companies often don't spend it on increased capacity, rather they pocket it or spend it wantonly.
i guess all im trying to say is i dont understand people being annoyed at others for fighting for net neutrality. i havnt done shit to support it myself, but im glad people are actually calling senators and shit. its all schadenfraude when people meme that they want it to pass because the left and reddit dont want it to
Why we'll just ask our wonderful congressmen to break up those monopolies! I'm sure them being bought out by these telecom giants won't stand in the way of them doing the right thing for the best of the common man.
And honestly, the ISPs probably won't even stop us from doing so. I mean, according to the people on Sup Forums, these ISPs just spent hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying to remove NN just so they could break up their own monopolies for the good of the Free Market, sacrificing all the power they have. That sounds pretty trustworthy and pure-hearted to me.
You're comparing a market of adult customers versus literal children with mommy's credit card
This place has been ravaged by retards. I used to think Sup Forumstards were stupid, holy shit, they are geniuses compared to a typical Sup Forumslack. At least Sup Forumstards knew when they were getting fucked over, Sup Forumslacks love it as long as who they dislike are getting fucked over too.
>consumers arent basically children with mommy's credit card, with a few years added
youve got some learning to do, my man
Typical internet users are basically adult children. Think of all the baby boomers they could scam.
>Yes ma'am! If you buy this e-mail fast lane package you can access your e-mail much much faster! And you never browse game websites, right? We'll just remove that from your content in compensation...
Supreme Court will save us, don't worry.
Do you think 2011 Sup Forums would have shilled against NN?
>"Fast Ping Service for Gamers"
You know it's coming. It's not hard for them to argue that only gamers need such low and steady latency, and for that you'll have to pay. Fuck they might even set up tiers based distance and shit.
Sky's the limit when it comes to milking customers in a monopoly.
The actual individual Net Neutrality rules themselves don't mean much, however the Internet being classified as a Class II Carrier is incredibly important.
If they get rid of the rules but it maintains its status as a Class II Carrier nothing much is going to change. They still can't fuck with it too much because the FCC. But if it loses the Class II status it'll be like fucking Mad Max or some shit, where consumers are settlers with rags and companies are mohawked leather faggots with guns and cars.
>Sopa was expanding the government's involvement in the internet
>Ending NN is the opposite
You're literally making up impossible scenarios to justify useless regulations
So do you stop eating, taking a shower, and sleeping just because you have to do it again and again?
>SOPA was expanding one side's power to fuck over people
>ending NN is expanding the other side's power to fuck over people
>the opposite of both kept the status quo
>getting fucked by a small syndicate of telecom giants directly is much better than being fucked by their cronies in the government!
You do realize that both mega-corps AND big government are bad, right? That even though reddit is full of filthy faggotry, it's not wrong for wanting to keep NN?
But hey, keep being a contrarian faggot.
I hope ISPs throttle free porn sites and block DDL/torrents to direct the flow of traffic to paysites for kickbacks. Nothing would make people lose their shit faster. Basically a precursor to the porn wars.
how does this regulation thats already in place harm anybody? our tax money is being wasted by talk of repealing it every year, why not just leave it in place?
>impossible scenarios
They've literally tried it before you toddler
Republicans are always in bed with the rich.
Net Neutrality was supposed to protect against that sort of throttling and it didn't. I'm amazed anyone here actually defends such an impotent law, it does absolutely goddamn nothing whatsoever.
Don't be a fucking retard OP. Ping is absolutely critical to all twitch gaming.
The point is to make it politically expensive for motherfuckers to do this.
What? They've already DONE it before.
I dunno about you, but if that happens, I"m moving to bartertown.
Both gov't and corps want to fuck you in your sweet boypussy. Both are going in big and raw. The ideal of NN is to put a metal plate between your asshole and their pulsating ramrods.
>option A: get fucked
>option B: get fucked
I would rather the current impotent law get repealed, see some serious shit go down and watch as new, more efficient laws are proposed.
>Basically a precursor to the porn wars.
Are you a time traveler? Tell us about the porn wars.
>What? They've already DONE it before.
When have they done package deals that disallow certain websites, you mental midgets?
>doesn't know the porn companies own every tube site out there
>new, more efficient laws are proposed.
>implying
the reason this shit keeps showing up is because telecom companies have politicians in their pocket
Bartertown in this case being Europe which actually has first world level internet.
Except this is all wrong, the government doesn't control who gets broadcasting licenses and all the ISPs on the US are controlled by the same companies that tried their best to elect clinton. We're talking about companies that invested hundreds of millions of dollars on her, does ANYONE really think they won't throttle sites based on their political leanings? Sup Forums itself got blocked by some ISPs.
>watch as new, more efficient laws are proposed.
By who? The same people that have been bought out already? These people didn't listen when their constituents bitched about NN being removed. Do you really think they're going to listen to you when you bitch about getting fucked in the ass by ISPs later?
He's probably talking about back when AT&T blocked Sup Forums, customers complained and AT&T backpedaled on it within the very same week. But nobody likes to remember that because it would imply all these Net Neutrality laws are a bit pointless when compared to the free market. Take this faggot for instance, I'm sure he's been bludgeoned with pro-NN shilling for fucking months now.
>Will game companies have new obsurd demands that must be met?
You mean like for example demanding a monthly fee for the privilege of using your internet connection?
Except this isn't the case at all because they are considered common carriers which PREVENTS them from curating content and therefore losing their status as "broadband services".
I just need videogames and to discuss barely videogame related shitposting online
My package will be small if anything, as usual
I hope net neutrality is killed, that way I can be forced away from the devil that is the internet.
>handing over the same companies that own CNN and MSNBC the control of which sites you can access is somehow hurting leftists.
if theyre pointless, why are telecom companies lobbying gaainst them so hard? and how does it hinder the market?
You'll just find something else self-destructive to fill that hole. Your suffering will never end.
>Americucks indoctrinated into believing things like NN and Universal Healthcare are bad things
Fucking lol.
"delusional" It's a distancing term. It's always positive to look into things that don't seem right. If you don't you end up like South Korea with a literal shadow puppet government that controls the head of office.
>&T and Charter have both cockblocked Google from installing Google Fiber in several places, and that's with Net Neutrality in place
Net Neutrality has nothing to do with local government.
Conservatives really only fucking care about making things worse for everyone if it means people they don't like are in that group.
when is this shithole country getting moderates or reformists back.
google isnt a telecom company you dumb nigger. theres no way title 2 could ever apply to a search engine, it would have to be entirely different legislation
Okay then, tell me what kinds of MAJOR INNOVATION are going to come from repealing these consumer protections?
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What you describe is what they do in China. No ISP wants to shoulder that reputation and there is absolutely nothing profitable about censoring or even slowing websites. You operate on the assumption companies all have a universal agenda and a desire to block bad think when all they really care about is your monthly payments. Remember how it became extremely illegal to pirate via torrents? Remember how ISPs promised to help stop that, only for them to do little more than issue stern letters to anyone they caught pirating (other than a handful of cases, literally three out of three hundred million, to set a precedent)? It's the exact same story here. I'm not even trying to imply ISPs are good people or virtuous, I'm just saying censoring sites or slowing them based on obvious political or speech bias is fucking absurd by any metric and no company wants to be known for doing that. Especially not with local fiber optic companies popping up all over the fucking country nowadays. And this isn't even getting into how you can bypass just about any restriction via a VPN or secure connection, neither of which an ISP can (or even would) block due to just how many companies and services use those. I swear to fuck you people bash Sup Forums for their conspiracy theories yet none of you research this shit you discuss.
>screenshot taken from the Trump fanboy board on reddit
>the same one that's apparently banning anyone who defends NN
>it's true