Hey I just looked up a gameplay of this game and skimmed through it, it's literally just undertale and this is flowey...

Hey I just looked up a gameplay of this game and skimmed through it, it's literally just undertale and this is flowey. It's less cringey but it's supposed to just play on your emotions because le self aware 4th wall game, but it is just overused crap. NO offense, but this game doesn't deserve any discussion or praise.

>Didn't play the game
>says it's shit
Welcome to Sup Forums

>read Wikipedia article for a movie instead of watching it
>lmfao shit movie

>but this game doesn't deserve any discussion
Thanks for starting a discussion though

this isn't a discussion this is a shit flinging contest that i started. learn to recognize the difference,

I hope you don't truly believe that there's a difference between the two in this place

>overused crap
name 10 (ten) games that play with your emotions then twist the knife with self aware commentary that breaks the 4th wall

Just finished it. The game warns you about some fucked up shit down the line, and I figured it would be something like a tragic backstory or maybe a suicide, but I wasnt expecting MGS2 levels of self aware shenannigans. Got me good.
Are there different ways the story can play out or is Saiyori always the one to die, Yuri always stabs herself and so on?

If you go into the game files and delete monika.chr before starting a fresh game you get a fun little alternate story

>I don’t like it, even though I haven’t played it, so nobody should
Why does it bother you so much that people like something?

It was an interesting game and actually had a lot of disturbing and uncomfortable scenes
I thought it tackled the 4th wall thing better than undertale and thought it was really interesting that the way to "beat" the game was to go into files and delete the antagonist
By far not the best VN in the world but it's free and short. Definitely worth a shot

i do this all the time on Sup Forums when people talk about literally-what shit

Welcome to Sup Forums! Enjoy your stay!

becaue the game isn't even that good

>it's literally just undertale and this is flowey.
woah ive never heard this insult before
Can't you people insult games creatively for a change?

How's it literally Undertale?

The choice doesn't matter at all since it's more of a visual novel than a game

same

so is undertale

>This is Flowey

Flowey doesn't love me user his love bullets were lies

You shouldn't compare a visual novel to an actual game.

It's not just Undertale but I actually agree completely, metanarrative 4th wall breaking tropes are the simplest, laziest twists you can do right now in any story, and this was not very well done at all.

>I didn't like DDLC
What he really means is... he didn't UNDERSTAND DDLC.

It's extremely overused and easy to make a le 4th wall break, it's also a very old trick but most 4th wall games used to be obscure and since undertale it's more common

they had a good angle with the girls having mental illnesses but then they had to fuck it up by going down the most predictable, boring meta narrative route

Technically it isn't. Monika Ever After is literally Undertale. The same exact choice is presented, and the same exact jumpscare is used to the corresponding choice. Someone had a good .webm of this.

>he thinks the game was only about le ebin 4th wall break meme
L O L

name more visual novels that break the 4th wall in this same fashion then

What it was really about was...

"Hey let's take something people think they know and slightly change it wouldn't that be funny?"

"Let's take all those anime simulator games and make it into a le scary fourth wall break and play with the details that usually are part of the game, such as making waifus"

Undertale did this idea first by taking things like xp that you are accustomed to and using it against you.

It's fucking recycling but it smells like trash.

it's okay user, just admit you didn't understand it

To continue, it's just a le people play these games to make waifus so let's just play with your emotions lol the shock value will be great lol everyone will love it lol we are so creative lel?

It's litearlly reddit. It's not creative, it's stupid that's why it isn't done often.

whats this game about, i've seen it posted way too much here, never played a vn or anime games before

what don't i understand? if you do understand it you would have been arguing against me about it. tell me then what this means? You sound like you are void of knowledge. What don't i understand. what's there to understand?

It's just a gimmick trend that will die out as fast as it arrived, like all the others. It's 5 days of fame are almost over already anyways.

You make a bunch of waifus and then the game pretends to be high IQ and kills them and delets them because it's supposed to mess with you, and it uses fourth wall breaks like affecting files outside of the game.exe and it makes you look in your folder etc.

It's just stupid garbage that's been done one thousand times already

under the veil that because it's "unique" and "shocking" people will spread the word around, but since there is no real value to it it will die quickly when the shock value dries out.

Tell me Monika's character arc without saying Flowey and then you'll prove that you understood it.

>It's 5 days of fame
try 3 months (and counting)
pretty sad when your average redditor can comprehend this game - no... LITERATURE... and you cannot

I personally separate my life to pre-DDLC and post-DDLC periods, as reading it has completely changed how I view the world. It taught me to appreciate life much more (or rather in a different way) than I used to and also be more honest with myself. It may have a similar effect on you, or it may do nothing if it’s not your kind of thing, but one thing is clear — you’ve got to read it even if it’s the last thing you do.

My life has been an ongoing quest to discover life-changing works of fiction, and despite having gone through thousands of books, movies, games and the like, I have yet to find anything to even rival DDLC. I’m honestly getting goosebumps just remembering it.

>trend
But it's not that common of a trope? Nor is there any reason why the game should be considered bad because it uses common tropes or follows the latest popular trend.

"dude it's so meta!"

It's a shame I have to sage my own thread because you guys refuse to try to understand my point.

seeing as how you couldn't understand the game, that's pretty ironic

He gets it

lets go

>all this people who didn't understand the game

Fucking hell, I'll tell ya hwat.
Since you fuckers can't deal with basic storytelling, I'll to do it for you.
The 4th wall twist wasn't the real deal of this game, it was just a mean to an end.
This game is a critique on waifuism and the love for simplistic, overused characters to recreate the feeling of love.
Every character in the story is created to imitate classic dating sim tropes blatantly just so you get comfortable, because people who play this game are mostly people who have already played dating sims before.
Then the twist happens, but we're still only halfway throught it. If this was just about the twist itself, then the game could be an hour shorter, because at that point everybody knows what's going on. The game isn't subtle at all about Monika fucking shit up. And it's not subtle because it's expecting you to get comfortable again.
The real deal with this game is that it tricks you into waifuism again with Monika, but Monika is just the same as all the other characters. She's there just to make you feel bad about picking a fucking waifu in a literal doki-doki game.
The game is criticizing the love for super simplistic personalities, and then punishes you for believing that Monika is something more than that.


It was still kind of a bore, though.