How do we save sonic?

How do we save sonic?

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make Kayona Kim a playable character

It doesn't matter what you do, the majority of Sonic fans won't like it anyway because every single one of them want a different type of game.

Then keep making games like Sonic Mania. That's what the vast majority of people want anyway.

Sonic team gets disbanded.
Here, no need to thank me.

Why do we keep having this thread?

Generations and Mania, as well as Boom and Forces have given us the answer.

Hyper Focused Classic Sonic. Modern Sonic Formula does NOT work anymore. However, another game in an Adventure Format has not been done since 06.

So, 2D. Or a new Adventure. Modern Sonic games will continue to fail. There's your answer.

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>pretend everything after Sonic Adventure never happened
>remember the game fondly as an old classic that people enjoyed back in the day
>never make any new sonic games ever again
There you go I saved it

We need a full-blown Sonic Maker with a sprite creator and everything so that we can easily remake stages.

Gameoverthinker made a 2-part video on how to save him back in 2009

>Fire Izuka
>Make SA3
>If SA3 bombs then disband Sonic Team
>If it succeeds then make SA4

Replace Iizuka has ST lead with someone with more ambition and love for the franchise.
Make a sequel to Sonic Mania that's fully original and has no backseat developing by ST.

If it's made in the style of Sonic Adventure 1/2, I dont think it has the capacity to fail. People are chomping at the bit for quality 3D sonic, and the Adventure Formula is basically to it as Classic Sonic was to Sonic Mania.

People hate on the Adventure games now though.

We're basically not getting it unless the corporate structure changes because they think Sonic Forces is an "advancement" on the formula.

If you want to go back to 3D Blast or CD as the cut off point that's fine too

>Comic dead
>Show dead
>Games suck again

And to think, just a few months ago, things were looking up for us. That was the shortest comeback I ever saw.

Is Sonic the new Bubsy?

No, Sonic's the old Bubsy

For 3d controls, in addition to a slower "walking mode," give Sonic a "gas pedal" with the triggers to free the analog stick for precision steering. You get control at speed and precision platforming.

Sonic wishes he could've died in the 90's.

>wanting Sonic to be a racing game
Granted, that sounds better than Sonic being a rythm game like he is now with the boost formula

You were delusional user, the signs of forces being a disaster were all there since the very first trailer.
If anything it is clear now to everyone with a brain where the problem lies.

Boost Sonic works, they just keep giving them to less and less talented level designers and mix it with retarded type of gameplay instead of pure
Adventure is shit, always was and always will be

To be fair Sonic R is better than any Sonic game that's come out in well over a decade

Thing is, no matter how much you keep saying boost can work. Sonic team just can't make it work so instead of imagining how great a full boost game would look like it's best to just scrap it since the one making the games are shit at it.

Sonic Team can't make Sonic work period

Keep him 2D forever, 3D games with sanic have bene proven time and time again to not work; not even sonic team be consistent with the 3D levels for fucking sonic.

Kill everyone at Sonic Team. Kill everyone that defends 3D Sonic. Continue making games like Sonic Mania.

Boom, everyone's happy and the world is less autistic to boot.

You do what they back in the 90's, just add a bunch of shit and see what sticks

Make a third season of Sonic Boom

SF is kinda boring bit is noway a disaster, it was just overhyped

By bring Micheal jackson and Bruce lee back
and let both of them make sonic game

Need to just give Green Hill and Chemical Plant their own dedicated game at this point considering all the dickriding they do of them

Rename Sonic Team to something else and make them work on other games.

STOP MAKING 3D GAMES, IT DOES NOT WORK.

Transition the series back to 2D and build it's reputation again.

Make Sonic R 2

Sit down an actually figure out how to make him work on a 3D plane

You'd think at least part of his autistic fanbase would be important people by now.

A bunch of them got jobs writing and drawing the official Sonic comic book a few years ago.

>>If it's made in the style of Sonic Adventure 1/2, I dont think it has the capacity to fail
The only good parts about those games were the Sonic/Shadow levels and the Chao Garden. ALL of the other shit is tedious and ruins replayability
>playing hide and seek with the emeralds shards
>shitty mech levels that have you trying to string together combos for some reason
>a god damn fishing mini game (??)
>go kart levels where you drive down an empty stretch of road with the worst driving controls ever seen in a game
Go replay it. It's garbage for 90% of the game and has you controlling some shit sidekick that doesn't even fit with the theme of Sonic

I mainly want new sonic games to come out, for the music. I always listen to sonic music.

>he dislikes SA1's emerald hunts
I can understand hating the ones in SA2, since the areas are way too big, the hint system is useless and the radar is fuck beyond belief, but SA1's? Are you some kind of fag? They were great sandbox levels for Knuckles to fly around in and punch shit. Not to mention that they were short as hell if you use Tikal. Also, I disagree with you on Gamma's stages. They were easy as fuck, but they were basically power rushes where you just blew shit up for less than an hour. It also had the best side story ever told in a Sonic game. Big's stages suck ass though, I'll give you that, but at least it's only a little over 30 minutes long.

*but at least his story is only a little over 30 minutes long.

Shitty Sonic OC Maker you mean? Adding a sprite creator means people will just self-insert their OCs. The only good things that would come from it are Coldsteel and Sonichu stuff

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I don't know anymore, I just want more Mania games at this point, that shit was so fun. An Adventure title wouldn't hurt though.

By just letting it die. Sonic team is one of the worst developers around and is incapable of learning from past mistakes. The fanbase is completely retarded and doesn't know what makes a good game. Sega also doesn't give a shit and just wants money, so they'll keep the status quo until Sonic is no longer profitable.

Give him to people who actually want to make a Sonic game and understand what made the series great in the first place beyond a superficial surface level. i.e. "People loved Sonic because checkboards and badniks, right?"

...so, basically, give him to fans. I think Mania proves that there are at least a few of them that can use their autism powers for good. I'm not gonna say the U-word, but there's plenty of other fans out there that are on the right track and could apply their knowledge to finally bring Sonic into 3D properly. And besides, it's not that complicated to begin with. Make a ball interact with level geometry in the way you'd expect, exaggerate it slightly, and build levels around it. As long as you make a solid foundation, everything else will eventually fall into place.

Honestly, if we could just get Iizuka to give a shit/and or care about getting the ball physics right, that'd be a huge leap forward for 3D Sonic as it is currently.

Stopping Ninty from stealing their talent. And firing Izuka.

Nice to see things never change, 3&k level designer also went to ninty.
Not their fault soj sucks big time except for yakuza and valkyria (1).

This. Also HD remakes for Sonic 1-4 for all consoles, but a must have for the Switch. I mean how hard is it to understand that sonic doesnt work in 3D? Just make HD sequals to OG sonic. Hell you could even sell them on mobile.

Just rehash Sonic Mania

Make Sonic Advance 4
Sonic Rush 3
Sonic Mania 2
Sonic Adventure 3
Sonic 06' 2 (For shits and giggles)
And then Sonic Unleashed 2 with the Werehog being a 2 minute QTE fest by Platinum.

Then kill the series and revive all the other Sega games.

Mania Team

easy, just turn him into indieshit as that's CLEARLY the solution.
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Make a game based around the best robotw

>"...the Adventure Formula is basically to it as Classic Sonic was to Sonic Mania."
>This is the mind of an Adventurefag.

Why are you and so many others fixated on Adventure? I've played both around 2013 and they really don't seem that special. I can sorta justify the completely clashing gameplay styles as Sonic Team trying to make a scattershot of a launch title that would appeal to everyone buying a Dreamcast. Playing it now though, it's uneven at best and a waste of time at worst when you'd rather play the action stages.

The most fun part of the games are the Speed stages yet they only comprise a small part of the whole.

The story is laughably terrible yet constantly in your face as if the writers thought they had the hottest shit going on. Adventure 2 in particular goes full retard several times over - Rouge has five minutes to escape the base yet we are arbitrarly given three because she claims five is too easy. Knuckles manages to break the Chaos emerald so bad pieces of it land across the entire planet, inside of a pyramid and even the fucking moon. Tails is able to create an "Artifical" Chaos emerald that somehow functions exactly like a regular one, including giving the wielder Chaos control. Hell, Sonic gets locked into a container yet somehow uses Time stop powers to escape despite this being impossible. And that's not even touching how akward the cutscenes themselves are with lines constantly cutting into each other.

Chao Garden? Timesink and nothing else. Justifying the games as a whole because of it would be like adding a tamagotchi minigame to Super Mario 64. It's there and doesn't really affect the main game but why would you want to play a Tamagotchi game instead of the main thing?

Heroes had the sense to focus on Speed stages. Colors scrapped the whole serious plot thing and was all the better for it. I'm convinced anyone who genuinely likes Adventures are delusionals who are obsessed with playing Adventure as twelve year olds.

I want a Kim amiibo...

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>That's what the vast majority of people want anyway.
Are you sure about that?

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Autists and kids will buy anything with Sonic written on it.
Theres nothing we can do.

The vast majority of people aren't autistic Sonic fans, so if you're thinking "most people want Sonic Adventure 3!", you'd be wrong.

Boost was perfected in Unleashed, problem is Sonic Team cannot seem to not change their formula with each game, it's like they HAVE to change something in fear of it being the same thing.

I fucking love Omega.

Honestly, just allow the franchise to retire with some dignity. The games that were great will always be great, instead of bastardizing what they made, let it die down. Move onto a new project, make something new great instead of trying to make something great again.

I think you're wrong though, and just so you know, the word "autistic" has become meaningless like every other word Sup Forums has run into the fucking center of the earth.

he's got a better personality than most characters

Sonic Mania 2 and Sonic Utopia 2019

Of course you do, but that's because you're an autistic Sonic Adventure fag who only interacts with other autistic Sonic Adventure fags.

At least in the comic he does.

Wrong again, I am a boost fag, I don't care about Adventure or Classic.

Heroes Omega was pretty good too
"Well, that's a load of my back.

Just divide up Sonic team into 4 different teams: one for 2D that's basically just the Mania team, one for 3D platforming in the style of the Sonic/Shadow Adventure stages, one for boost style games, and one to make all the fun spinoffs like Riders that we DON'T FUCKING GET ANYMORE WHERE'S MY NEW RIDERS YOU FUCKING HACKS

Seeing him in Forces made it clear they're keeping him similar to his robotic-like depiction in 06 but with a bit of Heroes' personality
>Payback inevitable

How is Omega's voice STILL fucked up after all these years? Did they forget what filter they used for Heroes?

fuck Omega's voice
Using the StH Vector voice instead of the Heroes voice is the real crime

The fans are already on it.

How much suffering are you fans willing to go through

Sonic is under poor management. The top staff needs to be replaced, or sell the property off to someone else. Almost anyone could have cobbled together a better game than Forces.

Is this thing actually real or just a fucking mockup?

fake news

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It's real.

>forces is on sale already

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>gamemaker
absolutely disgusting

They reduced the price weeks before it was even released too. Sonic Team really fucked up with that game.