Are games like Ace Attorney or Danganronpa visual novels?

Are games like Ace Attorney or Danganronpa visual novels?

Yes

No

I've only played the first daganronpa and I enjoyed it very much. are the second and third worth the time? what about the spinoffs? they any good? I already know about how the dangan world is "fake" so don't bother trying to "spoil" it. I just wanna know will they be fun reads or not.

AA is classified as an adventure game in Japan. Dunno about DR.

Yes. They have more interactivity than the basic vn but the main gameplay is making the right dialogue choices.

Yes and they're also games

I enjoyed the first two games despite knowing every killer and death. I look at these things like a Columbo episode (or the first couple of cases of Ace Attorney games if you aren't as much of an oldfag like me) where you know the killer in the opening act and it's about figuring out how they did it to corner them.

They're VNs but they have a bit more interactivity than others in the genre which are literally just storybooks. Dangan especially has a ton more variety in it's gameplay that can jump out of nowhere.

The small gameplay elements they have male them more enjoyable than the majority of the genre.

Danganronpa 2 is considered by many to be superior to danganronpa 1, so definitely give it a shot. You'll be in for a wild ride
People are generally split when it comes to Danganronpa 3. People either love it or hate it because of what you mentioned in your spoiler tag.
I overall enjoyed it more than the second one, though both has their own advantages and disadvantages.

The games are all good and the anime is all bad. Some people didn't enjoy UDG but i think Toko and Komaru were great protagonists. Also, Dangan world is only fake in V3, some retards think it's actually a reality show but they are literally games in V3, that's where the "fake" thing came from.

What defines a VN is the ability to make narrative choices, which can take the form of a dialogue choice. In AA and DR you can't (almost ever) make narrative choices, you are presented with a puzzle and you solve it to progress.

Are there any other court trial video games out there besides those two?

Though they aren't exactly court trial games, but rather interactive visual novels like Danganronpa and Ace Attorney, you should try out the nonary games 999 and Virtues last reward. Don't bother with zero time dilemma though

Japan groups them in a different but similar genre I think, it fits Sup Forums's arbitrary made-up definition of Visual Novel that no one else gives a shit about though.

I played all three already, hopefully Project Psync will be more 999 than ZTD

Isn't deciding to present evidence or not a narrative choice?

No, because you can't decide not to present evidence, only present (right or wrong) evidence or not play the game at all.
As for presenting wrong evidence it's not (for all intents and purposes) a narrative choice either, because the result is either a game over or a loop where you're asked again to present the correct piece of evidence. The narrative either stop or stalls, it doesn't change.

No.

So visual novels with only one good ending are not visual novels?

They're more like a narrative puzzle game if that makes any sense at all.

Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick are the pinnacle of adventure games

Oh god what is he doing

The number of "good" endings doesn't matter, what matters is mostly that the story branches as a consequence of your choices. I know that technically 999 and VLR only have one ending, but the point is that there are dead ends that aren't immediate.

Another argument against this is something like Umineko where, for the most part, you never even make narrative choices and the story is just one all the way through (kind of). I wouldn't argue against Umineko being considered a VN despite this because it still presents itself as if it was a novel. AA and DR don't really narrate the events in the same way most VNs do, and since the word "novel" is right there in the name of the genre I think that's an important distinction.

Ultimately I think the only way AA and DR are similar to VNs is the fact that they're text heavy and focused on characters and dialogue, but other than that they're as similar to each other as Myst is to Dear Esther.

Aviary Attorney and Acquittal: Induction are the two that I know of. The first has some real shit mysteries (the third case in particular has an interesting premise, but falls apart quickly), and the second is slightly bland. I'm not sure what's so bad about the second one, but it didn't capture my attention, and the art feels like a generic VN. There's another one that completely escapes my mind (it has a female protagonist, and the twist of the first case is that the villain is transgender - and the twist is done in that you literally cannot know for sure that they're trans until an asspull near the end of the case), but I wouldn't recommend that either. Doesn't help that it has little-to-no animations either.

I'm also making one, but it'll never come out, and it probably won't interest a lot of people.

I love Junko!

I'm just giving this game a chance even after the fucking dud that was ZTD to see if ZTD was just a fluke or if Uchi has lost his touch.

Did anyone see her big debut earlier today?

What was the "gifted juveniles" stuff in V3 about anyway?

More like point and click adventure games

No. I missed it.
Anything I missed?

it was all fiction

her debut was in 2-2, idiot

Nothing. Instead of being something interesting like every student being there for committing a crime related to their talent, it ended up being irrelevant to the story, like most of V3.

In my defence, shut up

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The Birdman game based on Ace Attorneys style made by Capcom.

They are planning to make Ace Attorney games based on /ourguy/ Wright ? Cool.
I hope he'll manage to get my favorite magician out of trouble, though.

SHUT THE FUCK UP IT WAS RIGGED OKAY
IT'S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST VON KARMA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tell me about the one you're making. I need to know for scientific reasons!

Isn't the term "visual novel" a western thing?
Ace Attorney and Danganronpa are considered "adventure games" in Japan.