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Is this CPU a meme? Whats the recommended GPU you should pair it with?

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step 1: work harder until you're not a poorfag
step 2: build a vidya gaem PC that isn't shit with at least a $1k budget to reward yourself for your hard work

I’ll sell you mine for $40

It’s not bad. I’ve gone in and out of PC so many times that I just chose it as it’s good for the money.

Throw a 1050ti with it and you’re good.

Obsolete now, replaced by G4600.
And going to be replaced by Pentium Gold in March.

hey fags whats the i5 2500k now?

I5-8600k.

*the new

The Pentiums were alright until Intel pushed a microcode update that locked the multipliers, completely negating the value

>Is this CPU a meme?
No
>Whats the recommended GPU you should pair it with?
1050/ti

i5 2500K / i7 2600K

I still don't know whether to get this or an i5-8400, both look to have the same performances.

One is lokced and the other is unlocked.
And since Lower chipsets dont exist yet and you are forced to a Z370 motherboard might aswell get the I5-8600K.

Locked means you cant overclock it, but with a unlocked CPU you just overclock it and thats it.
That is why people are still using their I5-2500K and I7-2600K.

I'm a newfag in this area, but isn't overclocking dangerous if you're not experienced?

>work harder
oh yeah because that's how jobs work, can't wait to tell my boss that he can fuck off because i would DEFINITELY do a better job than him. I'm sure that he can't wait for me to replace him because i'm better at it so that he can go look for a new job himself. Ofcourse, how didn't i think of that, silly me...

I have a g4560 and 1050ti. Great combo.

As long you dont touch voltage it is 100% safe.
This days motherboards OC on their own, most if not all motherboards have an AutoOC option in BIOS or a switch.
Manual overclocking is to go around what an AutoOC considers safe and get everything you can out that CPU, but at this point you will have to increase voltage little by little.

Alright, thanks a lot user.

>fall for the skylake future proof meme
>no upgrade path to coffin lake

going amd from now on

I've got a 4620 and paired it with a geforce 1050

It will play any previous generation game at highest settings, 1080p, no issues. Newer stuff will knock you down to low/medium range at 1080p, but those settings still look dramatically better than consoles.

Built my rig with 16gig ram for under $500 with a monitor. Great option if you're on a budget.

Let me remind you the I5-8400 works from 2.8GHz to "UP TO" 4GHz, so you may or never may hit 4GHz based in your motherboard and cooling.
Turboboost changed.

it's dead gym.
i3 is the new i5 and i5 is the new i7 and i7 is a meme as well as i9

This is why everyone tells you to not buy locked Intel CPUs.
You buy once and upgrade in 5-7 years.

How is PS2 emulation?

I went with a $600 setup a few yrs back and I can still play everything on ultra for the most part.

AMD Athon X4 ($85) paired with a RX480 8GB ($179) and 16GB DDR3 Gskill ripper ram ($129). Using a ASRock gaming board ($79.99), Rosewill 650w PSU champ series, and three 1TB WD black drives ($49 each).

Not fancy but works great.

>my boss
There's your problem, wageslave. Why aren't you the boss? Are you not intelligent enough to start your own business or create anything of your own?

Last time I checked the 4600 or 4620 was actually cheaper.

I can do it with the rare slowdown depending on the game. I played Jak and Daxter not long again and it ran that fine. More intense PS2 software doesnt run as great, like FFXII or Shadow of the Colossus.

If you want to emulate PS2 seamlessly, I'd go for one of the new i3's or better and build around that.

I'm talking about z170 boards not being able to run coffee lake not about locked CPUs.

Ryzen 5 1600

Intel has done this for years, they release a CPU, then a refresh and then the chipset/socket is kill.
Why are you surprised?

Nope, it's the real deal. It's better at most DX11 games than any of the Ryzen CPUs, even the eight core 1700X because it has much better single-thread power and IPC. You really can't go wrong with that as a beginner's gaming PC.

But if you wait until February, the newer Pentium Gold G5400 will come out with higher clock speed than that. It has a better upgrade path too (go from a dual core to a six core).

Ignore any AMDfag who tells you to buy Ryzen, it's upgrade path is shit. An eight-core that gets it's ass handed by a six core Intel, not worth the money at all.

Sandy->Ivy then its kill.
Haswell>Devil Canyon Then kill again.
Skywell>Kaby Lake Then kill again.
Coffee>Ice Then kill again.

I have the same exact build and my console looks noticeably better on new games.

Same with AMD
FM1 -> only Llano
FM2 -> Trinity and Richland (which is literally the same chip design)
FM2+ -> only Kaveri
AM1 -> only Kabini
AM3+ -> Bulldozer and Piledriver
AM4 -> only Zen and a refresh
AMD has a much worse upgrade track record than Intel because they often kill a socket after a single generation. At least Intel gives you two generation per socket.

>paying twice as much for 5 extra fps
Intel cucks everyone

Disregarding APU shit, those AM sockets lasted a fuck load longer than Intel's sockets that are replaced every other year

>paying $390 for a shitty eight core that gets soundly beaten by a $60 Pentium
AMDrones everybody

Intel sockets last 2 years on average.

everything at ultra at 5fps

More like
>Buying outdated stuff when the new stuff is getting released in February.

I'm rolling with a ATX Phenom II. Once my tax return comes in I want to upgrade to an i5 and grab a new motherboard. Is that a good call, or will an i3 suffice?

Because AM3+ was aborted due to shitty single-core performance and abysmal power draw. It continued to sell without any updates for almost 4 years because AMD was too poor to come up with a replacement.

Meanwhile Intel had to switch sockets to add MORE features (like adding better memory controller support for DDR3 between 1156 and 1155, or adding full support for PCIe 3.0 to 1150 versus 1155). 1151 got an upgrade to support more cores because the power requirements for Coffee Lake necessitated extra pins for voltage and power raw. You can't run Coffee Lake to it's fullest potential on the older 1151.

Step 1. work harder to make more money.
Step 2. get sick, end up on disability, make less fucking money.

That the same thing as saying they're replaced every other year

Hardly, playing Tom Clancy's Wild lands right now and it's buttery smooth. Granted I play on 1980x1080 most of the time since I'm either using a 1080p 55" TV or a 1080p Samsung monitor. So I will need a upgrade for 4k gaming, but that's a few yrs away from being totally cost effective. A $600 investment every 4 to 5 years for dependable performance is okay in my book.

I just can't warrant spending more.

>You buy once and upgrade in 5-7 years.
I've used the locked i5 2500 since 2011, and I still don't see any reasons to upgrade.

Some do, for example the stock I5-2500 would bottleneck a GTX 1060.

>soon to be the year of our lord 2018
>buying a fucking PENTIUM

kek

we're almost 7 hours into 2018

>for example the stock I5-2500 would bottleneck a GTX 1060.
I got both of those, and the hell they do.
I'm Ultraing everything at 1200p / 60fps like a boss.

>on no I'm not getting an extra 5fps, better spend $500+ on a new system!
Or you can not play games that are optimized like shit

Its not an optimization problem but a GPU-CPU bottleneck problem.

I'm pared it with RX 470 and I'm playing Nier Automata, 60 FPS 1080p.

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Yeah, and an overclocked Ryzen 1600 will bottleneck a 1060 6GB. Your point being?

Is Ryzen a meme?

You mean PCIe? Even 2.0 has more than enough bandwidth for modern cards

No, Intel kiddies are just lashing out because for the first time in 5 years there's competition

No, that is something totally different which is not a problem.
Google GPU bottleneck.
Its when the CPU is not good enough for the GPU, like using a Pentium and a GTX 1080Ti together.

>GPU bottleneck.
CPU bottleneck*

So how is it bottlenecking when the CPU isn't even reaching 80% usage in games except for shit like Asscreed KAngz edition

trying to get back into pc gaming, starting with this
comes with an i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz and 8GB of RAM, I'd throw in a GTX 1050 Ti and later upgrade to a GTX 1060 3GB if that fits

good idea? mostly looking to play old stuff like New Vegas, Dark Messiah, Dragon Age etc on ultra at 60fps

A great idea, though I'd skip 3GB 1060 altogether.
Hold on to the 1050ti until 1100 series comes out.

>that fucking case
literally the same one I bought my relatives last year.

1050Ti can do 60FPS on everything you mentioned.

nice, thanks

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i3 8100 true quad-core CPU
Cheap B360 motherboard available in 2018

Don't buy the G4560 when the i3 8100 is available

G4560 was never good and any idiot that got meme'd into buying it deserves the CPU bottleneck they get.

at $65 it was good but now it's like $89 which it's not really worth it there. May as well get a Ryzen 3 1200 or i3 8100. Pair that with a 1050Ti or 1060.

It WAS good, first pentium with hypertreading.
But its good for office use, not gaming.

Now currently replaced by G4600, and it would still be a bad buy since Coffee lake is already out.

>be poor
>want i5 2500
>it's impossible to find a compatible motherboard

I'm personally still running i7 2600 (non-K), 8GB RAM and GTX 560ti 1GB, and have had no problems playing any game at 1080p just yet. The first games that have required me to set more than couple settings to Low to get good framerate has been RE7 and Witcher3.

So yeah, I'd say your build will work fine.

>it's impossible to find a compatible motherboard
wut?
Just buy a mobo+CPU combo, or used PC.

>have compatible mb
>its impossible to find a 2500 without importing

Cheap used PCs are usually prebuilts with BTX mobos and buying a Sandybridge compatible mobo is expensive

Jeez that's old. A GTX 1050 Ti can be had for like $150 or even less and would be a solid upgrade for you

I hate to say it but if you don't want to save up just buy a console.
When playing PC games you will have a very bad time without a decent CPU. It's the one component next to the GPU that ruins the entire experience when not performant enough. Video games and all those ports aren't exactly well optimized these days.

I've seen full size used PCs with i5 2500 - i7 2600, OK RAM, GPU and PSU go for as low as 300 bucks in recent weeks online. I would've picked one up just for the heck of it, if I wouldnt already have so much IT in my home.

I know, but it's oldie but goodie. Gets the job done just fine IMO.
Trying to grab a 6GB 1060 or something "soon".

you save more money with pee cee if you pirate everything tho like me :^)

>I hate to say it but if you don't want to save up just buy a console.
And this is how you detect a masquerading console shill.
Even without a dedicated GPU, the modern integrated chips can run practically anything modern on lower settings, and anything pre-2010 at exponentially higher settings. Any kind of generic use will also be possible.

And no, the great appeal of PC gaming is not (just) the option of higher performance and better graphics. Rather, it's the overwhelming number of options and variety presented for you.

If you're really tight on money, grab some 30$ GTX 750 from Ebay, and enjoy playing tons of good games decently.

I was about to get that along with a 1050Ti from Palit. Does anyone have a passive cooling GPU? Will it do fine with a good CPU heatsink and a big case fan?

You can’t just assume like that or you will be stuck in life forever. And what I mean is, you pulled a whole thought from the words ‘work harder’ without even thinking what that could mean.

DO not buy a fucking dual core cpu in current year gyim.

>integrated chips can run practically anything modern on lower settings, and anything pre-2010 at exponentially higher settings.

Wrong. Bayonetta can't run better than it can on 360 with a intergrated chip.

There are little games that make use of multithreading anyways.

>um acshully, there's this ONE console port game that...
t: (You). Exceptions only strengthen the rules.

>buying a 2c/4t cpu in 2018

You'll never make it

>$1k budget
No you are gonna need at least $1200 for a good one that will last you a while. Not including the monitor or other peripherals .

>Is this CPU a meme?
No, it's amazing. I built g4560/1050ti ultimate poorfag combo and it performs very well. More powerful than PS4 Pro and more than enough for most of the games. Two cores are nothing fantastic though and once cheap coffee mobos will arrive it'll be absolete compared to i3.

>A8-6600K better than a G4560
Quentin tier of stupid right here.

Does anyone know what replaced my 6100 i3 waifu as the single thread king of poorfags?

I3-8350K.

>4cores
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

When are AMD releasing their new APU's?

That's a Dual core with 2 semi-cores per core, so it's a 2c/4t no matter what the AMDrones try to say

noice, thanks. That and 7350K both seem to fit the bill

>wanting Rypoo rather than superior Coffee Lake with an Nvidia GPU
MAXIMUM SOY

That is a dual core CPU.

January.

>release gimped APUs in the face of Coffee Lake masterrace
AMD is fucked and they know it. That's why they've been slashing prices on their Ryzen and Threadripper CPUs. The only thing keeping their failing company afloat is the cryptocurrency market and their insatiable thirst for Radeons.

Ryzen APUs will be great for laptops though.
Ryzen is already outdated with with Coffee Lake, so Ryzen 2 better be good or AMD is going to be FX vs Intel 4th gen tier of fucked again.