Would you buy it if they nerfed Cloud & Bayo?

Would you buy it if they nerfed Cloud & Bayo?

Ill buy the next smash if they fire sakurai before they start working on it
also melee HD if they want to take from other companys and rehash a popular game to make a profit, melee HD if it actually works would sell like crazy

Cloud and Bayo don't need to be nerfed.

also tfw Cloud probably won't be in Smash 5 :(

Teenagers approach to balance desu. Nerf Cloud and Bayo and Diddy and Shiek are king again. Keep the top tier where it's at, clearly established, everyone knows what they can do and that's okay. The top and high tier characters are settled in just fine and function well. However if you could buff the bottom half of the cast to get them closer to the level of Shiek and cloud that would be much better. Ultimately the goal isn't to make all of the characters like dedede and Jiggs viable at the highest level of play, but at least make them legitimate options instead of complete fucking jokes. You can buff the bottom/low/some of the mid tiers without completely shattering a perfectly healthy and functioning meta in a relatively settled competitive scene.

>Ill buy the next smash if they fire sakurai before they start working on it

Why do people assume getting rid of Sakurai, will get rid of the problems people have with this series? It's not like he's the only one to have the views he has, from Nintendo.

This. A hundred times this.
Don't bring the upper class down, buff the weak.
Jiggly and Ganon are basically joke characters at this point.

PUT HIM IN

I'd buy it if they completely reworked the game to shake up how it played.
No matter who gets nerfed or buffed, the game still favors whoever has the fastest, safest attacks and guaranteed stuff.

i wouldn't buy it if they didnt

sakurai is the reason the game keeps trying to push away competitive elements and is the reason competitive smash 4 is nearly unwatchable, the guy actively keeps up with competitive smash JUST to remove technical mechanics in future games

dashdancing in melee is the reason tripping exists in brawl

when he gets fired is when smash will be treated like an actual fighting game by its creators instead of mario party alternate

>Jiggly and Ganon are basically joke characters at this point.

I think that's kind of the intention with Jigglypuff.

Like, Sakurai actually intended for it to be a joke character back in 64. It's just that he sucks at balancing so it turned out alright (See: Sakurai claiming that Samus was "the most strongest character" in the game back at the Invitational).

Pichu took the "joke character" role away with Jiggs in Melee according to Sakurai, who buffed it to accomodate this. Perhaps with Pichu getting scrapped afterwards, he decided to give the joke fighter role back to Jiggs, but this time, he'd mean it.

Good. Would rather Sonic get cut instead, but I'd be very happy if it's Cloud

>melee HD if it actually works would sell like crazy

no it wouldn't. Melee fans are a niche of hardcore players. It would sell 300k if that much.

When's my nigga Rayman gonna get in

I would main him no matter what. Even if he becomes F tier I would kick ass with him.

I'd probably buy it anyway, but if they continued to iterate on balance that would be grand.

Bayo is ok, she actually require skills to play.

Cloud in the other hand, any retard can pick him and be good. He is so overpowered that is not even fun to play him.

>he doesnt think the fast gameplay and nostalgia would sell its self

all they would need to do is have someone do a few ken combos and knees with a halo anniversary style graphic swap in the middle of gameplay and the hype would be instant, also hitting that classic melee menu music
nostalgia is hot, advanced gameplay is hot, gitgud is hot and melee has all of that

Hi Boney. Hi Aryes. Hi that kirby main that lives in a hick state (ya i forgot your name and state) often ruining matches by fooling around.

I miss smash Sup Forumseekends so much :(

They got a discord

No because the online netcode is consistently shit between both versions.
They won't ever fix it.

>Cloud and Bayonetta nerfs
>Not nerfing shield game and adding jump momentum back
Those two changes would make smash 4 perfect to me.

What is it? Doubt it'll be the same with the same small circle though.

discord.gg / 59nFka

Circle is too big desu, I normally only lurk and shitpost sometimes

I don't really care about Cloud, I just wish they'd buff Shulk and Falco

I would rather they somehow buff
>Pac-Man
>Falco
>Doc
>Kirby
>Wii Fit
>D3
>Zelda
>Ganon
>Puff
>Miis
To at least being as good as say, Roy or Little Mac.

Also remember that you can't balance the game fully around adults playing 1v1 with no items on a flat stage in stock mode. Even though that's how we prefer to play, the entire game shouldn't be built around that or it isn't smash. I have full respect for that no matter how much the internet wants to pretend non-competitive play doesn't exist. It does. I'm 24 and for most of my life I played smash casually and so did all my friends despite being into it since 64.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because Ganondorf is a good example of a character I honestly don't see how you could reasonably buff very much without making him broken in casual play. I mean, what the fuck would you have to do to make Ganon work in tournaments, legitimately kill you in three hits every time? There's no powerhouse ganon that works against a skilled player without breaking the game for everyone else.

>not buffing low tiers

I just don't get why everyone is convinced there will be a Smash 4 port for Switch.
Maybe if the Switch did poorly and they needed something to help generate some more interest, but it didn't and if they were going to do it they would have done it by now.

Smash isn't an actual fighting game. Smash is a party game with accidental mechanical depth.

because literally every other Wii U game is getting ported? Even Bayo 2 is getting a port

>5 games so far
>Nintendo has confirmed everything WiiU that gets ported to switch by their hand will receive additional content
They're not going to use up their manpower adding additional content to every single game in the WiiU catalog. You'll certainly get some, I'd wager more than the ones we know about now, but all is insanely unlikely

I refuse to buy another Smash game until a new director takes over who does something new and interesting, namely with the core gameplay. I didn't even buy 4 because the 3DS demo told me everything I needed to know.

They need to remove cloud and bayo entirely

>People still upset about cloud and Bayonetta years later
Rosterfagging should have been diagnosed as a mental illness. Not playing too much Vidya.

>not just playing a game that's well balanced to begin with

Even C tier characters are viable in top level play, only Croagunk isn't tournament viable, and even then people still do well in pools and occassionaly make top 16/top 8's with him

remove corrin

Corrin > Lucina/Roy, prove me wrong.