Is everyone using Intel related stuff fucked right now?

Is everyone using Intel related stuff fucked right now?

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Perhaps

Yes. I hope you enjoy PS3-era games, because this is all you PC will run in the next days.

We hope so

>he hasn't heard
AMD processors also affected.

It's a bunch of related vulnerabilities. One of them is very grave and only Intel CPUs are vulnerable (and that's the one that needs the big workaround that will slowdown those CPUs). The others are less serious but most CPUs are vulnerable (and there's mostly no workarounds). They're reporting them all together to make Intel look less bad.

This is intelshills misinformation. Actually only Intel processors are affected.

what is this 30% meme? fill me in

My CPU is actually at 100% right now, how do I know if it's related to this?

If you have an Intel CPU the fix will slow it down a bit. It's annoying for desktop users. But for most desktop uses the slowdown is probably pretty minor. It's much worse for servers. Especially those in cloud infrastructure. Everything just got significantly slower.

That's just for certain workloads. It's pretty much the worst case.
Unlikely. Check what processes are using it.

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

If you have an Intel CPU from the last 10 years or so, there's a big security vulnerability in it and the fix will slow it down.

What fix?
A Windows update?

Yeah.

what if I'm running a pirated version of windows 7?

I dunno.

Joke's on you I have Linux

It's a hardware flaw. It affects Linux too.

That would make everyone fucked since everyone uses intel.

what's the flaw? whats going on?

>tfw poorfag who always bought AMD CPUs
>tfw Intel CPUs will still be faster even with the 30% slowdown
Oh well. I'm sure everything will start making better use of all of those cores soon. Single-core performance will be irrelevant any day now.

Linux fix has already been made, but not rolled out yet, I think. Code documentation redacted to avoid giving too much info on the security flaw until release.

>consoles unaffected because both ps4/xbox use AMD

So much for being master race huh?

I don't fucking know. It's complicated. It would allow programs to read memory that they're not supposed to be able to. It's serious enough that it warrants a fix that will make Intel CPUs slower.

Hardware level security vulnerability, the fix will hit performance on ALL chips manufactured after 2011 by Intel but will hit virtualization the hardest

Not hearing about this anywhere so I am assuming it's another Sup Forums paranoia thing

>weeb scum
>AMD

What a surprise

Why would you willingly fuck your CPU to the point you may not even be able to use your PC anymore for its intended purpose?

Do you know what a weaboo is, newfag?

>intel CEO sold over 50% of the stock value of intel in early december
>becomes public knowledge late december / early January
lmfao.

Not quite
There are THREE flaws that utilize vulnerabilities with virtual memory paging and prediction, one of which is called Meltdown and the other two called Spectre.
AMD is only confirmed to be vulnerable to one version of Spectre, which all processors (x86-64 and ARM64) are vulnerable to and has no real fix outside of patching it out of the OS's kernel, but it is the hardest to take advantage of. Only Ryzen and Threadripper (and EBYNNN) are completely immune to this. The other Spectre threat is confirmed not to work at all with any of AMD's CPUs.

Intel is confirmed fucked air-tight with all orifices filled. The PTI fix for Meltdown is the one that will cause performance issues on all Intel processors. Linux kernels just added an exception for PTI on all AMD processors. Their line of code literally says
>If the x86 processor is not made by AMD, flag it as insecure

Because otherwise strangers can execute arbitrary code on your shit

> mfw this effects steam servers, costing them millions
THIS IS FOR HL3 GABEN

do you guys know if a hacker could take control with a trojan? or can it be done in another way that the user wouldnt see?

Security?
Some of it seem to be remotely exploitable with JavaScript in web pages.

Good thing I disabled windows updates

So why is no news source reporting this massive flaw that is more severe than any windows flaw to ever happen?

isn't that illegal in the US?

insider trading and all that

then you already installed a backdoor for the haxorz to walk right in

congrats boyo you fucked urself

All the info is still behind an embargo to give companies to put out fixes. Expect news of this to be everywhere early next week

>US
>rule of law

>can execute arbitrary code on your shit
No.
But they might be able to read arbitrary memory from the same process context (and this includes kernel memory without the fix). And there might be keys/passwords there. Which might allow them to hack your shit.

luckily our president is all about cracking down on big businesses and regulating them

>what's the flaw? whats going on?
intel put a nsa/sigint backdoor into all their chips, it was discovered. anyone who thinks this was a "design flaw" is deluding themselves.

They are you fucking clod, google it.

>embargo
I don't think any major news outlet has to obey an "embargo" as they did not sign anything and these same news groups have no issue leaking top level government shit let alone intels dirty laundry. I am betting this is exactly like the last 50 Sup Forums flip outs and is nothing.

>30% slowdown isn't enough so I'll let banglasheshis farm dogecoin with 99% of my cpu

HAHAHA
Trump wants to help big businesses ya tard. Trump hates poor people

Someone's already made a working Meltdown exploit that uses a simple script to keylog everything you type. Another whitehat released proof that he could use Meltdown to force Firefox to dump all of your saved password. All it takes is a simple script that you run off of any compromised website for you to get NSA'd/FSB'd/BLACKED'd.

There are tons of news on this.
Multinationals are above the laws of mere nations.

Not finding it anywhere, user.

money is probably already in an irish bank. lmfao

I thought I was having a meltdown but it turns out there was just a lot of cat hair in the fan.

>But they might be able to read arbitrary memory
how? trojan?

>Look at me I'm DOUBLE contrarian
Whatever dude, I'll see you next week.

I upgraded my comp a few years ago with a 6500. I was in dire need of an upgrade, and now I might get fucked. That was actually the first time I went Intel (ahtlon to phenom).

That'll show me.

I think that was the joke, user

americans will only be 30% white by 2020

>Is everyone using Intel related stuff fucked right now?
it affects everyone friend. amd, intel, and yes even arm chips like cortex. this is the VERY definition of backdoor.

Embargo's been lifted this afternoon after Intel admitted that there was a "concern" with all of their CPU products.
Everyone is reporting on it now. Hell, INTC got rekt this morning over mere rumors of performance impacts that the patches would have. NVDA and AMD skyrocketed.

Good excuse to buy AMD now, but Zen 2 is just around the corner. Fuck, guess I'll just play it safe until then

Just like with the "Sup Forums ransomware ads" a month ago

Oops nothing happened there, either. You peopler flip out every week

It's hard to tell. Sup Forums genuinely believes Trump will crackdown on big businesses.

"A bug that poses a huge security risk"
TRANSLATION: A zero day backdoor exploit the FBI, CIA, & NSA have known about for 10 years.

for the nth time this is not limited to intel.

>still has yet to post a link to an article by any place

Bonus points if it isn't from a random tech blog or a right wing news site.

>being this retarded

>how?
I don't understand how. Something to do with the CPU's caching, branch prediction and speculative execution. It's a complicated method but you can slowly extract bits from arbitrary memory locations.

*sells off maximum amount of stock allowed before news breaks*

Heh, nothing personnel kid...

>running several tabs of google chrome with a fair amount of extensions and payday 2
>CPU's only at 13%
Try and tell me ryzen is a meme now, intel jews.

FBI/CIA/NSA probably already has access to everything about you, i doubt they'd need an exploit if they really wanted to find out more about you.

Fuck HL3, this is for artifact. They could have decided to make literally anything else but instead they want to cash in on a hearthstone clone

Pol is filled with delusional people that even Pol makes fun of.

We don't want a "crackdown" on them, we just want them to come back. They'll have to follow our laws WHEN THEY'RE HERE. Of course they do whatever the fuck they want when they're not dependent on the US for anything other than a consumer market.

I literally just threw my computer in a fire, didn't have much of a choice really.

It actually is. The biggest exploit is limited to intel. A simple google will get you to an article that describes it to the teeth, or if you're comp architecture illiterate, there's other articles that sum it up for you. Are you really still trying to defend intel?

good

>No article links, nothing but vagueness on what the exploit even entails, conspiracy shit about the NSA
Yup
It's nothing.

African children could have ate that computer

>>still has yet to post a link to an article by any place
reuters good enough for you?
reuters.com/article/us-cyber-intel/security-flaws-put-virtually-all-phones-computers-at-risk-idUSKBN1ES1BO

type 'meltdown' or 'spectre' into google. have fun.

twitter.com/misc0110/status/948706387491786752

So has the update that "fixes" this already released for W10? Do I have to install it?

>They'll have to follow our laws WHEN THEY'RE HERE

Are you retarded? It took 3 seconds to find:
theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

>come back here, we need you
>but we also need you to follow the law

Ptfhaha amerimutts are hilarious.

>this only works on intel because of Meltdown
kek
Every single Intel CPU from Pentium III onward (except the first-gen Atoms) is doomed.

So why the fuck was it so hard for you to post it?

This also doesn't explain where the slowdown meme came from

If only intel had realized that the backdoor they put into their processors for the nsa could be compromised by other people. How could anyone have seen that coming.

>(((Krzanich)))

Not Ryzen ;)

Blown way out of proportion by the media to gain views. Most people won't notice anything unless you're running the giganigga of all processors.

edgy

>exploit virtually does nothing. If a hacker was really autistic and wanted to go through your memory he might find some shit. Or he could just infect you with a far simpler trojan and get the information far easily
>only really allows them to steal passwords

Also since it seems intel knew of this exploit for half a year, they will probably get sued.

Why was it so hard for you to find it? You'll find out faster by googling it than begging to be spoonfed.

So like, it's time to quit PC gaming? Cause AMD processors are shit and now Intel is running like shit.

The risk of anything after FX being fucked over by the exploit is minor, and the patches don't throttle performance by 1/3rd like with the Intel ones

Because if you are going to make giant claims of "OMG GUYZ WE ARE DOOMED" you better post a link in the OP. Now you know

>spoonfed
Don't make offtopic threads if you want everyone to be informed on the topic.

It's not a backdoor. Intel wanted to prioritize higher performance over branch prediction security. It was their own hubris that led to this, not any three-letter agency.
Intel's ME on the other hand..

it is you knob

More than likely they knew since ten years back. It was probably a government contract so the NSA could spy on their girlfriends fucking black cock.