Is this game still worth playing in the current year?

is this game still worth playing in the current year?

bump.

Yeah

yes

No, the graphics suck

^agree, i love every old school iso rpg except torment the graphics are bad enough to ruin it

Literally a genre defining title. It'll be worth playing a billion years from now.

definitely still worth playing.

it is worth playing for the story which has not really aged. The gameplay is shit but it was shit at launch

Always, and forever

Not the """"""""""""""""""""""""""enhanced""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" edition, but the original yes

whats so bad about the enhanced edition?

This and it doesn't have multiplayer.

its too racist and sexist
no
literally nothing, other than the fact you are giving money to (((beamdog)))

Beamdog is a shit company that injects their literal trash writing and characters into games like Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale

if you must have the enhanced version then just pirate it, same with the original. none of the actual devs are going to see any of your money anyways

Too much reading

I have a friend studying Game Design at Uni and we got into an argument a few years ago regarding this very topic.
He said he could never recommend this game to anyone because it was archaic and had bad combat mechanics.

Nobody plays it for the combat.

its just dnd

Worth it. Also EE doesn't have the bullshit Beamdog infested both BB's, so go for it.

Combat is shit. You should play a mage or get the fuck out. No freedom in build stat-wise at all. Story stops being infodumps on everything only after you get to Pharod, that is, 5 hours after exiting the Mortuary or so. Every sidequest is a fetch quest. Etc.

>walk up to an NPC
>wall of text
>click through millions of responses
>more walls of text
>read through all the crap on screen
>finally done
>5 seconds of gameplay
>use it to walk to another NPC
>wall of text opens ...
>...

if you consider reading through a ton of mediocre text on a screen great this is the 'game' for you OP but I prefer my games to actually have gameplay

remember guys

1. always pray to the Lady of Pain for she keeps the gods out
2.if you see her then go up to her and be nice.
and last
3. crossing her shadow gives you free goodies

now have fun

Just wait until Curst, you'll have plenty of gameplay there. :^)

Indeed. How many unavoidable battles are there anyway? A handful?

It's more of an interactive novel, you'd say? Kinda hard to draw the distinction between games and interactive novels because what exactly constitutes gameplay?

its the only d&d crpg worth playing becauese the shit gameplay is only about 10% of the game here, rest is reading

Very interesting game world and the roleplaying is good though you'd be best off playing a mage. Interesting characters but the entire game feels somewhat linear compared to other Infinity Engine titles.

Nothing else quite like it in terms of world design since save maybe Morrowind and that only comes close.

Recommended if you're into isometric RPGs but if you're spoilt on newer RPGs you might find this one a bit more difficult to pick up and play. Up to you senpai, it's unique

shitty combat?

>implying choice and consequence is not a GAME MECHANIC undisputedly considered a pillar of social games, the precursors of every other type of game in existence
It's like you are a goddamn plebian

tl;dr

Is your friend one of those "Elder Scrolls fans" who only played Skyrim? That survey was hilarious.

>choice and consequence
>literally not a single choice you make matters
What did he mean by this?

Morrowind has shit combat too and that's praised to the high heavens. Your friend is a scrub who couldn't get past ragpicker's square.

>studying Game Design
My condolences to his future.

Keep playing The Witcher 3 is what I meant by this. Clearly, you are far too much of a little bitch to actually enjoy good games.

How do I make this style of game?

Nah. If it was still 2017 it'd be okay but the standards are just that much higher now. Shit fucking sucks.

Learn Infinity engine.
Alternatively, go to Chris Avelonne, suck his dick for a month while reciting Greek philosophy scriptures. Afterwards he'll lend you his team and half his budgets. Grats, now you have two coders and 50 bucks, get to work.

What can change the nature of a man?
Gameplay.

>tfw still haven't played this
>tfw still haven't played baldur's gate
>tfw still haven't played temple of elemental evil
>tfw still haven't played jagged alliance 2
>tfw still haven't played alpha centauri
>tfw still haven't played link to the past

>planescape torment
>game

>Learn Infinity Engine
Why would someone want to do that when there are modern engines to use?

>this format would unironically improve the game

Keep crying those bitch tears, lil' shit.

Nice meme

To make it AUTHENTIC, mang.
I dunno, learn the PoE engine then or D:OS. Those are both made in Unreal, no?

Reminder than PST is literally a western-made JRPG

Like Of pros and men, this game has greater narration and not so good game design. If you like reading books with noneneric plot - give it a try. Don't use HD resolution patch though.

Planescapefags are always so insecure when someone dares to criticize their sacred cow of a VN. It's almost like they're trying to justify the dozens wasted hours of their life or something.

Pillars of Eternity is on unity and D:OS is on it's own inhouse engine

A better plot than any other classic CRPG, so I guess Eastern techniques prove their superiority once again.

Keep crying those bitch tears, lil' shit.

This. Better plot and world building than most WRPGs to date.

>reading a good book is now wasted time
You don't make any sense.

Genuine question, what the fuck have you been doing with your life?

Have you at least played Arcanum?

Or maybe because the """"criticisms"""" are always the same dumb ITS A BEWK NOT GAEM shit from people who didn't even play it

You must have a huge library and read hardcover books daily

That's okay user, you always have time to start them. They're all great games though that you should check out. Especially JA2 and Alpha Centauri.

continuing
>tfw played skyrim
>tfw played witcher 3
>tfw played skyward sword
>tfw played bioshock infinite
>tfw played DA:I
I'm a failure. Daddy was right.

I can't think of a single good game thats not worth playing after some years have passed. That is such a retarded concept when you can still enjoy media that is centuries old.

Planescape isn't all that jazzed unless you're really into vidya stories
BG1 is a piece of shit that you should skip in favor of much better BG2
ToEE is trash
JA2 is just badXCOM
Alpha Centauri was so bad that even the devs consider it a failure
LttP is meh

>skip BG1
opinion discareded

Look at this poor chap.

>tfw playing Blood, Quake and Return to castle wolfenstein for the hundredth time
Didn't even play them when they initially came out. Death Wish really resurrected Blood for me recently.

BG1 is a bit rough around the edges but I agree that 2 is vastly superior.
JA2 is great. It's different from XCOM but I'd argue it's better in some ways. It feels more like you're actually in a living world and are making real progress square by square. So many things to keep in mind like the mines, training of militias, multiple teams and all the side quests like bounties etc. It also feels like an 80s arnie action flick which is stellar. Not to mention the combat system which is just as good as XCOM and that fact that one merc in JA has more personality than the entirety of XCOM and they have preferences for who they work well with and who they hate. JA2 is a great game and I haven't even started talking about JA2 1.13.
Alpha Centauri is the best Civ game there is senpai.

Four. Tutorial zombie with the key, the hag, the angel, the traitor

No.

The gameplay is just plain bad. I'd rrather play a VN version of it.

Holy mother of shit taste, Baitman

BG1 is a boring hack and slash campaign that showcases every flaw of later Bioware writing, cliches and bad design.
>ur a chosen one special snowflake
>companions are shite, as well as companion quests, Minsk is the only good one
>"witty" banter
>99% quests are boring as fuck fetch quests
>3 dungeons in the game, every single one is garbage
>horrendous endgame corridor with a bunch of randos assaulting you 5 seconds before the Sarevok fight
>boring as fuck plot, every character is an idiot clueless to an obvious conspiracy under their noses
>thieving quest ends in murder 99% of the time
>thieving in general pointless as fuck
>three choices: Jesus, Hitler, smarmy sarcastic idiot
>alignment is unchangeable
The only reason to play BG1 is to run Durlag's Tower from the DLC and import a pantaloon-wielding char to BG2.

>combat is the only form of gameplay

Welcome to the FPS generation. If you're not killing something, you're not playing.

Haven't played in years but as I recall Planescape also had plenty of puzzles, you getting trapped in dimensions, keyhunts etc. It felt more like a point and click at times. Pretty interesting derivative from other infinity engine titles.

Exactly. Besides, if you throw everything into INT and WIS then you get assloads of exp and for the fights you actually do get involved in you have all of these really cool and pretty spells to use.

It's generally an interesting exploration game that puts you in the shoes of an amnesiac "detective" of sorts and makes you question fucking everything around you. Which is really different from most infinity engine games and thus fun. Just tracing most events of the world around back to yourself and learning about your previous incarnations is immensely satisfying as well as shocking to some extent. Like that one quest where you investigate the murder of a guy you hired to help dechipher some artifact, only to learn one of your previous selves rigged the device to kill people. As far as I remember, you can disclose exactly that to the victim's relatives and while the game doesn't award or punish you either way, it's one of those moments that actually manage to "really make you think"

I'm pretty sure I got stuck some way through the game but I remember so many interesting locations and characters like the underground city of the dead, the library of skulls that I might have to check it out again.

yes but prepare for a lot of reading.

too much reading imo, a lot of what is described in text should honestly be visual, if not straight up interactive. but those are budget limitations more than engine limitations.

Bump

When is he going to actually write something again?

Thats a given, you would presumably be pirating the original too, assuming you don't have brain damage.

Never, he's a mascot like Stan Lee.

>JA2 is just badXCOM
you're other comments can be seen right in some eyes but this is just wrong. JA2 is the pinnacle of the tactics genre

>Welcome to the FPS generation. If you're not killing something, you're not playing.

now imagine that I have played plenty of classic RPGs and what one would consider hardcore RPGs and still won't consider reading through a pulp novel on a screen 'playing a game'.

he writes all the time, currently on the Pathfinder RPG that looks like PoE

On my first playthrough, I actually never got Nordom because I skipped that whole part, thinking it wouldn't amount to that much.

Oh, yeah, all those "classics" like Skyrim and Witcher 3, even a "hardcore" RPG like Zelda Breath of the Wild.
You're impressing no one, pissbaby. Old RPGs play like pulp novels, that's part of the experience.

You played through Quest of the Avatar trilogy? Awesome dude.

>implying anybody on Sup Forums played QotA trilogy
Like twelve dudes on /vr/ managed to get throught those games back in the day. Don't expect much from Sup Forums. Ultima's keyword system makes every game till VI a total fucking slog. The best versions are fucking FMTowns ports because at least they don't assault your eyes with stick figures and awful lo-fi sound

I bought them from GoG and I thought the card-reading character creation was really good. In time I will learn to actually play it.

>this.
also:
>not rogoue like
>not open world zombie survival crafting space loli walking simulator

>what can have this game even have left except (?).

really makes you think..

Card-reading is fun and at least a bit more in-depth than most "answer questions, get stats" systems. The game themselves are just too fucking slow to not be mind-numbing. The fact that every action is also mapped to a key, sometimes absolutely irrationally, is also a big detraction. My best advice would be to read a starting guide or two before even playing and the manual included in GOG package. Also, keep the key mapping sheet nearby. And never ever even play anything before Ultima IV. I've enjoyed early Wizardry and M&M titles, but even Wizardry IV is more entertaining and interesting than Ultima I-III.

Oh I have no interest in Ultima I-III. I'll see if I can ever actually beat IV-VI.

I hope your friend drops out and ends up as a dick sucking bum on the streets. fuck that faggot, he is part of the problem why every fucking game these days is either a moba, cod clone or interactive walking simulator movie with social and political agenda cancer shoved down its throat. I wish him cancer.

B-but user, the normies won't buy it without epic crafting, skyrim combat and MEMES! Don't you want to make a lot of moneys?