So, is Donkey Kong Jr modern DK as an infant?

So, is Donkey Kong Jr modern DK as an infant?

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OG DK = Cranky

DK jr = Donkey Kong

How is this hard?

I think the current story is that the Donkey Kong with the red tie is DK III, while Cranky is the original Donkey Kong, which would make Donkey Kong Jr. the modern Donkey Kong's father or uncle.

No I think it's suppose to be DK's son.
Since according to cranky from the old games. He's the original donkey kong. We don't know what happened to the old DK Jr. So current DK is DK the third.

Explain the picture then.

How can baby mario and mario be in the same game?

Sports games are non canon retard

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Thing is, during Rare era, Cranky said he was his grandson until DK64, where he called DK his son, Loveday (Rare's writer) also confimed that Cranky is his fater.
But in the new era, Cranky calls DK his grandson again.
Either Cranky has alzheimer, or Nintendo just want to kick Rare in the balls
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No, modern DK is Cranky's grandson. DK Jr. is Cranky's son and modern DK's father.

How is Mario able to experience two or three generations of Donkey Kongs and not have aged visibly?

sorry.

Apes age faster than regular humans

Mario uses complexion enhancing powerups to cheat his way to youth

sorry for what?

Our daddies not us to be afraid of our dongs, especially since they expand good size and all.

Donkey Kong Jr is Donkey Kong's father. He actually grew up in Mario's Tennis and Super Mario Kart, but they de-aged him for Donkey Kong '94, and they used that younger version for the Game and Watch Gallery series and Mario Tennis.

Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, and Donkey Kong III's grandfather. He refers to Donkey Kong as his grandson in the manual of the original Donkey Kong Country, the GBA version of Donkey Kong Country, and Donkey Kong Country Returns. Nintendo and Rare both refer to Cranky Kong as his grandfather in almost all material where their family ties are mentioned. Cranky Kong only refers to Donkey Kong as his son in Donkey Kong 64, so it's merely a continuity error in that game.

Baby Donkey Kong is. Different character.

Did Candy dumped DK?

Artist?

fyxefox

Dixie Kong chimped out and ate her fingers and face, then she hid her at the bottom of the banana hoard where no one will find her.

I guess she's desperate to be like her young sister

DK jr. should be modern DK’s father. It’s inconsistently stated, but Cranky is the original DK and modern DK’s grandfather. Baby DK is modern DK as a baby.

>modern DK as an infant
No, that would be pic related.
This guy has it figured out

Baby DK is actually Cranky Kong

I'm pretty sure DK Jr. was meant to be Donkey Kong's son. The only reason Diddy exists is Nintendo didn't like Rare's plans to make DK Jr what Diddy essentially is so Nintendo said they couldn't use him. As a result, Rare made gave him his owm name.

I have no idea where he fits into the current family tree (if at all)

Gregg Mayles actually responded to a fan asking about the "Cranky is DK's dad" thing, and essentially he said that Cranky had alzheimers when he called DK his "son" in DK64, so there you go.

Loveday could also be taking the piss about Cranky being DK's dad, because he's a cheeky cunt like that. So I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.

Cranky is likely older than Mario considering he’s supposed to be in his mid 20’s. So that’s wrong.

This is the fan in question, who is a kong lore expert as seen here:

Yeah, I didn't wanna drag Mike into it but I suppose it's inevitable whenever Dong lore is discussed since his KONG documentary is almost always posted in these threads. As it should be, mind.

Part two never ever

So Mario's fought 3 generations of the Kongs family all without aging himself?

How long until Miyamoto comes out and just shits on this whole thing the same way he did with the Koopalings not being Bowser's children?

Don't gorillas age faster?

Does anyone here actually take what Shiggy says about Mario lore seriously, though? He's obviously gone senile at this point.

Immediately after Shiggy made that announcement, future Mario games (most notably Color Splash and Paper Jam where the Koopalings made their RPG debuts) hammered it home. Now you can't even pretend that they're still his kids even if you wanted to ignore him.

So what does Metro Kingdom contribute to Kong lore?

I believe the game devs said that it's where the original fight between Mario and DK for Pauline took place, but that contradicts DK Land's "Big Ape City."

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Actually gorillas have a lifespan of 35-40 years so it's not impossible to think that a generation has gone by during Mario's adulthood

>sweet old Wrinkly Kong
>cheating
DELETE THIS

Diddy isn't DK's nephew, that's just Smash Bros being shit at info.

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DK Jr. coming back as DK Sr. fucking when?

he has always been there to watch his son

I miss Candy. I wished Nintendo wasn't so scared to bring bimbo apefu back.

Cranky holding DK

>wanting blatant furry shit in DK games
Fuck off
Nintendo's doing the right thing keeping that abomination in the grave

Didn't she kinda conflict with the Mario vs. DK games as well where DK is still attracted to Pauline?

That's just Cranky

Well, Nintendo has been waifu-pandering a lot lately, they might make Tiny or Candy back to please apefuckers.
>Implying DK having a hot as fuck apegirl doesn't make him cooler
hah
gay

Fedora Kong looks nothing like DK Jr grown up. That's not his father, it's his uncle, "Pinky".

They aren’t canon

Yiff in hell furfaggot

Tiny > Dixie > Girl Kremlin with boob > Bimbo Kong

Dixie > 64 Tiny >>>>>>>>> furshit

Cranky, Jr. and Donkey are all different characters.

So is the baby versions of characters. And metal versions. And skeleton bowser. And Doctor Mario. Actually Mario is a different person every game. Browser only actually only kidnapped Peach a couple of times, and all the games after the first one are parallel universes

>being a lolicon furry

cry me a river, dickface

so many idiots in this thread. Cranky is modern DK's grandfather and DK Jr. is DK's father. This isn't a Rare thing only either, Cranky says grandson in Returns too, so this is now an completely canon thing.

>ruining a potentially good DK thread by dumping furshit

Not him but the rest of us were content to discuss DK lore and not give a shit.

Mario fucked her in the other manga. He threw her onto his harem with Peach, Daisy, the Mushroom woman, and Syrup.

This is a crop, right

In 64 it's stated that Diddy is DK's nephew.

Why? She'll never appear again, you're the one that will never get what you want.

64 is noncanon.

because no games featuring modern DK and Mario together are canon, that's why. The two exist in different time periods but intertwine with eachother for non-canon spin-off games

where? the manual?
Diddy was always DK's apprentice
I'm talking about the games too ;3

>HE is non-canon
delete this

Just wait for Funky & Lanky RPG.

I guess most people just prefer envisioning modern DK as DK Jr since it cuts out the unnecessary middle-man.

Explain

Dixie had an abusive father and was malnourished growing up

She was always taller than Dixie and she’s been drinking plenty of banana milk

Yes the manual, which is written by the people that made the game, therefore it is canon material. This is not something reputable. A ton of info on the first 4 games is given only through the manual and near all of it is consistently used today.

They had the same father though

Parental favoritism

Top: non-canon character with a non-canon redesign
Bottom: canon character that stays relatively the same, but she needs her knee pads back.

umm, no sweetie. They were only said to be sisters in the manual and manuals are NOT canon

why are we pretending that 64 is now non-canon? last I checked, Tiny, lanky, and Chunky are still around and Wrinkly is still dead

I just now remember that Jungle Beat was supposed to be a reboot of the franchise.
What if now we have the Rare timeline and the Nintendo timeline?
why is talking about DK lore so fun?

None of them are in DKCR or KDCT, the only canon DKC games since DKC3.

>I just now remember that Jungle Beat was supposed to be a reboot of the franchise.
Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willace?

They were in the GBA port of DKC3

Not him, but it was made right after Rare left and even the producer of the game mentioned they were trying to refresh the DK series, making DK "and the banana" the only returning characters.

Great game, but I'll always harbor a slight bit of resentment for it for trying so hard to get rid of characters like Diddy.

But DK64 is still canon. It's not a DKC game, but it's still a main franchise game and not a spinoff. Comparable to something like the 3D mario games, where they're canon to the overall franchise but not to the 2D series, which is Mario's main series. If anything, it's at least canon to the overall lore, but not the "country" lore

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Both Nintendo and Rare have been inconsistent about which DK was which, except that Rare always maintained that Cranky Kong was the original DK. When Nintendo took over the franchise again, they started angling for the current DK as being the original, but they've gone back on it and now describe him as being 'descended' from the original DK. As far as I can remember, though, it's been a very long while since Cranky was explicitly confirmed for being the original Donkey Kong, and I don't think Nintendo themselves have ever confirmed it, just Rare - obviously the 'descendant' thing is referencing Rare's canon, but I don't know why they'd keep it so ambiguous if they're not intending to change anything. I suppose if they wanted to change it, though, they could just retcon the whole thing like they did with the Koopalings.

It's a little different with Junior: even Rare were never consistent about whether-or-not modern DK was Cranky's son or grandson. I think their final consensus was 'son', and that their DK was Junior grown-up, but that was something said in an online interview and never reference in-game. At least in the DKCR games, Nintendo's been consistent with the current DK being Cranky's grandson, so that would probably make him Junior's son, though I guess he could be his nephew. But again, the only Donkey Kong platformer that Junior actually appeared in came out in 1983, so how he fits into the whole story is pretty unclear. Odyssey was happy to bring back Pauline and reference the old lore about DK Arcade having taken place in New York, but updating it to fit into the series as it exists today - maybe they'll do the same with Jr. next? I think it's easier to bring back an old and underused character and giving them the treatment that Pauline got, rather than banking on a new character getting positive reception.

>and I don't think Nintendo themselves have ever confirmed it, just Rare
Snake's codec conversation for DK in Brawl confirmed it (which I know isn't canon) as well as one of DK's descriptions in one of the Mario baseball games.

>we don't really feel the past look of donkey kong was fresh enough for today
what the fuck did they even mean by this?
Nintendo in general is just retarded to listen to and should overall be ignored. I don't need to bring up the whole "Mario is 24 and not a plumber" thing, do I?

"rare sucks"
-Nintendo

>Snake's codec conversation for DK in Brawl confirmed it (which I know isn't canon) as well as one of DK's descriptions in one of the Mario baseball games.
The codec convo mentions that his grandfather was the original Donkey Kong, while his profile in Mario Superstar Baseball just mentions that 'his ancestor' was the original Donkey Kong. Neither explicitly names Cranky Kong.

I mean, I would assume that it's a reference to Cranky, seeing as he's the only male ancestor/grandfather of DK's that we've ever seen, and a character that was introduced as explicitly being the original DK. But Nintendo themselves have never flat-out said it and have always seemed to specifically avoid naming him directly. It just seems strange to me that they treat it like somewhat of a mystery when Rare was always pretty explicit about it.

I think it's a matter of Rare and Nintendo going through a bad breakup and Nintendo not wanting to admit anything Rare did was good. Also I think some of it might be a touch of the ol' Japanese pride

Over time they have come around on the matter

I guess that'd just be a bit awkward? Having to explain that Cranky Kong changed his name from Donkey to Cranky, that is...

Rare's fanfic isn't canon.

>Nintendo themselves have never flat-out said it and have always seemed to specifically avoid naming him directly.
They have in promotional materials. They released a family tree a couple years ago.

Where do you think you are, normie?

can someone give me the quick rundown on what the fuck happened to Swanky Kong
where did he go? did he die in the war? does he continue to be swanky outside the spotlight, content with fading into obscurity?

So who was in Donkey Kong 3? Also, did Stanley get memory holed?

This takes place in an alternate universe
Stanley is mario's counterpart in that universe
It also explains why alternate DK has spiky hair