What is a role playing game?

Are games like The Witcher, Zelda, Horizon Zero Dawn, Shadow of Mordor, Assassin's Creed Origins etc RPGs, even though you can't create your own character and the story is exactly the same for everyone who plays them?

I classify them as Open World RPGs

they're interactive visual novels

The witchers story changes drastically depending on your choices

All those games you listed are action games with RPG elements.

If the game doesn't feature D&D style turn-based combat, it isn't an RPG.

>>The witchers story changes drastically depending on your choices

Mario is a role playing game because you play the role of Mario on his quest to save the princess.

>never played witcher 2

How can anyone that has played the game say this? Literally not true.
It's only true for tw2, a game that Sup Forumstards hate.

Most of the games you listed are open world action games, not role playing games.

baldur's gate

Ending where ciri dies
Ending where ciri becomes princess
Ending where Ciri becomes a witcher

And that's just the Ciri states. You can change so many persons fate in this game and you don't know it.
Clearly YOU, faggots, haven't played the game and are just larping on what you've heard here

>minor detail that doesn't affect the overall narrative changes slightly
>drastically different endings
kek

What makes a TRUE RPG

dice rolls. everything else are just rpg elements

Zelda is not an RPG. It has never been an RPG.

t. doesn't know what an rpg is

Action adventure game. Ask Nintendo kid.

>you can't ever nut in Ciri

Shit game

it really isn't an rpg tho

ARPG is a useful term for RPGs that aren't really RPGs

Swords
Elves
Magic
Character advancement
Quests
Dungeons

Sounds like an RPG to me

Not really anymore, so many games have incorporated RPG elements or mechanics that nearly everything could be an ARPG.

You retarded faggot. Kill yourself today.

Is there really that much difference whether or not you create the character you're playin as? As in classifying what's an RPG. You play a character neverheless. You're not supposed to play as yourself in an RPG.

Personally I don't care if the story is on a predetermined path for everyone, as long as the story is good. Also it's kind of unreasonable (I think) to demand that you can do absolutely everything and make whatever choice you want in a videogame. I'd recommend tabletop RPGs for person who wants more freedom.

That is very far from a drastic change in the story you dumb piece of shit. And the fates of the background characters have zero impact in the story. In the end of the game you get a narrated slideshow and that's it.

Witcher 2 is the only game in the series where you get a real impact from your choice to join either the knights or the rebels.

There are classic RPG elements (e.g. leveling up, allocating stat and skill points, quests etc.), and once these elements become numerous and important enough to be a major factor in playing the game, people call that game an RPG.

What about turn based combat based on other Rulesets like The Dark Eye?