Robot Cache, an upcoming platform from inXile CEO Brian Fargo and former Atari exec Lee Jacobson...

>Robot Cache, an upcoming platform from inXile CEO Brian Fargo and former Atari exec Lee Jacobson, aims to set itself apart from Valve’s 800-pound gorilla in two key ways: resellable games, and a built-in, minable cryptocurrency called “Iron.”
>You’ll be able to resell games thanks to blockchain technology, which generates a record that cannot be changed and is used by many modern cryptocurrencies for record-keeping. Each sale will net you 25 percent of the proceeds, with 70 percent going to developers and publishers, who’ll also get a whopping 95 percent of proceeds from sales of new games compared to Steam’s 70 percent cut.
>When you resell games, you’ll be paid in Iron, which you can exchange for cash or use to buy more games. Presumably, though, the value of Iron will be subject to fluctuations in Robot Cache’s self-created market

Where were you when Steam was kill?

it will never work with a mascot like that

Then why is Reddit the 4th most popular website in the world when it has a retarded fucking mascot?

Pretty sure shareholders hate the concept of the secondary market.

simple, recognizable silhouette
next question

>can resell games
Pretty useless to me when all my games are on steam. Im not going to rebuy them to resell them.

>reddit is the 4th most popular site in the world

Dont lie to people.

That gimmick with the resell could help them out to become something like itch.io but bigger, maybe even compete with GOG, but that whole monopoly money bullshit ruins it.

It depends, do the company take a small share/fee for when you sell the game?

4th in America, 7th in the world. Same shit.

Will never work, big companies will simply ignore this platform. You'll only see indie games with retro graphics there.

I hate this. We should just let Valve and Gabe "Fat Ass" Newell take over the world.

>have to price your games low enough to compete with constant sales on Steam and other key sellers
>only get 25% of that
LOL great plan, might as well bring a stack of ps2 games to gamestop

>Cryptocurrency

So it's a scam.

>25% of the proceeds
>NOT 25% of the full price, just whatever you manage to get for your used virtual game

That's fucking nothing. It either means there's no sales ever, because why would you buy from a random cunt for anything more than the absolute cheapest a game has ever been, or that you will be re-selling your games for a whopping 3 bucks each. Except it's not even dollars, it's monopoly money that can DROP IN VALUE.

It makes no fucking sense even before the miner shit. It's like they come up with the most exploitative store system ever and thought people would buy into it because muh reselling.

>Cryptocurrency scam front
Yeah no I'll pass thanks

Oh yeah I'm sure this will last.

>Where were you when Steam was kill?
sorry, they're letting you resell the games but you only get 25% of what you sell it for?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

no thanks jew fucks, you're offering literally nothing at that
if i'm reselling it after purchasing it myself, whatever i sell it for should be mine entirely, period
i won't ever accept any platform that tries to take a cut of second hand sales

plus it'll never work, it's way too late now. people don't want a dozen different stores and programs to have running, they want their shit in the one place

I'd say the name is the bigger problem. Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Almost every super successful business is one word and a very memorable one at that. Apple, Valve, Blizzard, etc.

>minable cryptocurrency called “Iron.”
is the world ready for this? When there's money to be made people will turn on each other and the fat cats will come swooping in spreading intentional misinformation and meme warfare

>reselling digital licenses
what?

>name too long
>shitty blender student mascot
>cryptocurrency
>you only get 25% of what you sell

this is beyond retarded

It's bootleg Clank.

I rather like "Robo Cache" which does roll off the tongue and sounds like free money. Mascot fucking sucks, however and I don't see the platform working in general.
>you only get 25% of what you sell
As opposed to 0% under Steam?

I don't get the complaints about 25% resell when you have no option to resell at all. I think the crypto currency is more to avoid both taxes and credit card fees for transactions at the same time.

>That last reply
No idea, sorry.

25% is better than what you get from reselling your games on steam :)

So you buy new games and resell them you twat

>I rather like "Robo Cache" which does roll off the tongue and sounds like free money.
Yeah... it's actually "Robot" Cache, not "Robo" Cache, and it doesn't really roll off the tongue. "Steam" does.

awful mascot and awful name.

resellable vidya on blockchain is cool tho

Clank... Easy on the bolts..

why would i go to this place just to buy games and resell them when i can just stick to steam and be done with it

>Former Atari Exec

good idea, but years late and like you said the name and mascot are just bad.

Why would you continue to use a worse service when a better alternative is available?

These days it seems more like those old guys are focusing more on scam bullshit than on making games.

>dude it's like kickstarter but you're an INVESTOR
>dude it's like Steam but you can farm FargoCoins!

they'd have to convince Publishers to let them resell digital keys, most likely, which means you'll have a shitty catalogue of ancient games that would make even GOG look like it has all the big releases.

Monetary investment in present service. There is also no guarantee the new service will be worth a damn and could flop in a year.

why would i swap over when i have a 200+ game library already on steam? unless they have titles steam doesnt have then i see no point.

>brian fargo's track record is a bunch of dogshit games
>atari exec
yes this looks like it will go great I will invest all of my dollars into it and drop steam for this pile of dogshit

>RobotCache
This doesn't sound gaming related at all

Dunno how well it would actually work, but the biggest barrier would just be getting people to use it, which they aren't likely to do even if they could offer games cheaper than Steam. Steam has been dominant for so long that it's an institution. People love the centrality of it, having all their games under one program, to the point they won't even buy PC games if there's no Steam version (even if there's no other DRM). And if no one's using it, devs aren't gonna want to put their games on it either, especially if resales are only getting them "iron".

Wrong. Steam games will ALWAYS be cheaper, simply because cd key resellers sell almost exclusively Steam keys. No amount of reselling is going to change that, especially not at 25% fucking percent. I love Fargo and his games, but this is just fucking delusional.

>Moving goalposts.

This is for idiots that purchase shit without researching first, people without common sense.

Would you resell your games for peanuts? At those prices it makes NO sense at all to sell in the first place.

>Yeaaah I can sell 20 games and afford a new indie title!

How does steam or origin sound gaming related

>I'd rather have nothing than peanuts

I have tons of games on steam I have no intention of ever playing again that I would sell for 1% of the initial cost if I could.

Never again? Like what?

Yeah, robot cache is awful and tinny. Steam is a nice, trustworthy, woody word.

>people shitting on this because reselling wont turn them a profit or some shit
Well no shit fellas, the point of it is to sell shit you're literally never going to play again to reduce the cost of a new game by a little, not basically play free games forever.

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>Sup Forums almost in top 50

>built-in, minable cryptocurrency

I remember when something like this actually happened, except it was a semi, and the only reason why it stopped and blocked the broken bridge was due to a lucky wild emergency flare shot.

>As opposed to 0% under Steam?
It sounds sketchy as fuck considering that "used" digital prices will always be controlled by the distributor unlike physical games. Maybe if they let you remove the game from your account to get a key you could freely use or something.

>robot cache
I don't mind the robot
but this name sounds shady as fuck
like some russian front

>25% when everyone buys games on sales.

Yeah...It going work.

People love to say they'd sell their shit in a heartbeat but that's bullshit. A replay, even years down the line, is worth more than the fifty cents you'd make reselling like this.

With consoles it makes more sense. Shit breaks/becomes more scarce so you at least have an excuse to care after and resell your vidya later but fucking keys? Nah son.

What would the incentive for anyone to use it?
would there be a discount or perks?

You need to bear in mind that you don't get real money from reselling either. You get their special Disney Dollars which will fluctuate wildly like your average crypto.

Lol, iron? Man, everybody wanna get on the cryptocurrency scam.

How many years will have to pass for crypto to exist and keep growing for you to realize you don't know what you are talking about? 20, 30?
How long took your grandpa to finally acknowledge the existence of the internet?

>Everyone pointing out how it's not going to work out with the resell gimmick and it's game catalog is going to be small compared to steam
>No other advantages to Steam
>"HUUURR HUUURR VALVEDRONES!"

>Steam
>Origin
>Bethesda Launcher
>Uplay
>Battlenet
I'm not installing another cancer store

man I wish thats hot as fuck

For starters 95% of profits for devs, which they can use to give competitive prices for their own games in the initial phases to bring users to the platform.

People won't be convinced until you can go into a convenience store and buy a sippy with bit coins.

>steam sees competitions idea
>steam thonks
>steam makes resellable games too

Seems like an interesting idea but steam already dominates everything besides maybe EA because EA is big enough to have their own software for games.

Do devs get real money or crypto funbucks?

Some malls in brazil already have that option i believe, i doubt people use it though since a bitcoins value has grown a lot.

According to OP only the resell is made in crypto. No reason not to allow fiat for the original purchase.

>minable cryptocurrency called “Iron.”

Cryptocurrency is built to scam man. A fixed value currency ultimately values up to a point where no new blood can get to market, hence shutting down the market. Look at Bitcoin. Bitcoin is so overvalued, it's "worth" more than the collective money owned by the people that participate in the market. That, coupled with the increased difficulty of mining, people just opt for a new currency, or, BC will fork, making it less valuable.

Go figure, the thing that makes libertarians hard is fools gold.

might be cool
>crypto meme
pass

If the crypto-currency ever went up.
You could game the fucking system.

>built-in, minable cryptocurrency called “Iron.”
are we in a bubble?

You know what else is fixed? Gold. There is only so much gold on planet earth.

gold is also a tangible thing with real life applications

I was going to make a post about how money works but it's obvious you'd respond with a meme or some shit like that.

its going to be successful and ill tell you why.

games are no longer profitable with mobile platforms, mmos, and microtransactions saturating the market. so games are already priced in way below the 25 percent to begin with.
cryptocurrency can be traded for expansions and loot boxes which can be resold at a higher price.
in essence all it takes is a pokemon port or cs go or some social game to make it all flow together.
who says that this will be limited to pc? just wait until it issues on to apple or android.

Okay, suit yourself. Time will tell.

>a fake thing of which there can be any amount is fixed
>therefore a physical object which has actual value and exists in limited quantities is also fixed

cute felicia

>Pokemon or Counter Strike

Shit man you better be baiting.

>Each sale will net you 25 percent of the proceeds
Ahahahhahaha, no

>former Atari
Is it alright to let pic related out for a while before another Atari related idea falls apart?

Why resell when you can refund.

Absolutely none of these new PC game platforms will ever match steam, hell probably not even fucking gog just relying on these kinds of "value" gimmicks that will only lure in a small audience of stingy pc gamers at best and scare off publishers from even wanting to put their games on the platform in fear that they'll be sold for virtual peanuts at worst.

The only real reliable way to even make a dent in the market is to have a solid catalog of first party games exclusive to the platform and use that as leverage to differentiate the platform. EA and Microsoft tried and failed. Blizzard/Acti is pretty much the only other company that can actually give Valve a run for their money if they ever tried to seriously go after Steam directly.

Nobodies going to want to buy/sell the same third party games that steam offers at a diffrent store when theirs plenty of discounts/steam keys already floating around.

>bitcoin overvalued

all the alts are tied into its trading pairing. which is why its so high.

>get my weekly paycheck of bitcoin worth $600
>before I get home to sell it for real currency the market dips
>paycheck now worth $300
>can't make rent because of fluctuating meme currency

It's 7th not 4th

This doesn't change my statement. The valuation of cryptocurrency is higher than the sum total of the wealth of the people participating in the market. This is an untenable situation, but, by all means, put money into the scam machine.

Both the reseller and the devs would profit if they hold it instead of selling immediately and it indeed goes up, yes.

Yeah good luck with that.
Just because it is attractive for developers. doesn't make a good value proposition for consumers to migrate. keep in mind the majority of GOG users also use steam.

Mobile games are profitable as fuck because they take almost no money compared to real games to develop and whales will spend nonstop. AAA games are the only ones that are unsustainable which is why they're trying to be more like mobile games.

Or if the last 9 years are indicative, you hold it for 2 months and then your original 600 are worth 1000.

Even if it gets popular and starts taking a large chunk of PC game sales Steam will just copy them all allow the same thing.

Good all around for Steam users, but not for this shitty company that will get demolished.

>hold weekly paycheck for 2 months
>can't buy food
>starve to death in my 1 room apartment
WOW BITCOIN SO GOOD! GOING WITHOUT ANY MONEY FOR A WEEK IS A GREAT IDEA IF ONLY IT WOULD FLUCTUATE IN MY FAVOUR!