Overwatch Vs TF2

Looking to debate about Overwatch and Team Fortress 2 and which you think is better, not an argument or an insult contest just a general debate

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You can actually banter on TF2 and not get banned because someone got their fee fees hurt.

If you like fps games play TF2. If you want to have a raiding experience OW is better.

You are in the wrong place.

>this
Sick bants against and with me are what I miss the most out of games

Paladins = TF2 >>> Overwatch.

Comparing OW to TF2 is dumb anyway.

My bad I thought this was the right board to be since it was game related

Don't you realize that plagerism is the future of gaming?

Yeah that's one thing I know tf2 out classes similar to point in overwatch people get too offended AT MOST TIMES as for tf2 people will say binds in chat that is "edgy" or "memed" but you'll just laugh it off anyway cause it's part of tf2s long lasting community making it unique

>Tf2 virgins still mad that Overwatch kill thier shitty P2W trash.

Tf2 doesn't make me want to murder the people who play it so there's that.

Old shit vs Forced shit.

Old shit was fun in its prime and had a few good updates but pattered out due to time really. It isnt a bad game still it is just new stuff is here and with multiplayer games you move with the player base.

Forced shit is new and shiny and neat but lost alot of its charm being shoveled out as "hard core and casual", "competitive", and "progressive". Note the Quotation marks. That's the shit Blizzard says or attempts to express about its own game. How can you have an unbiased opinion about Forced shit when Forced shit already tells you how you should feel about it?

I didn't say it wasn't but eventually all games will be similar and one game will be better than the other(s)

>hat collector or muh diversity
both are shit

m-my g-g-god...
what's her name?

Just proving my point further about Overwatch's community being easily offended at times.

>Uses a name.
>Thinks Sup Forums is for talking about vidya.

Son I think you stumbled onto the wrong website.

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can I have a name?

Tf2.
This is not debatable.

No idea user I just save shit that turns my penis into the Big penis.

Slight follow up:
This all being said Forced shit is more polished because it was designed to be competitive and in the limelight. Old shit wasn't made to be streamed and shit but a competitive scene did happen. It isn't very good but it happened I guess. Both are fun in their own ways but each has parts that they wish they both had. Old shit wants that competitive scene and aesthetics but Forced shit wants the community and creative atmosphere.

>not an argument, just a general debate

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Definitely agreeing here have been a long time player of TF2 sure I just hit 1100 hours a month back but yeah owned the game for 4 years and still play it with it's varieties of gamemodes including the Gmod like one's, such as jailbreak, deathrun and prophunt or TF2s own made gamemodes such as dodgeball slender fortress
And all the standard original game modes as for overwatch played it for a year since release made some good friends, me and them never really play it anymore Solo or together and in my opinion it's just down to repetitiveness played the same maps and same heroes so many times whenever an update comes out I play it for a day and never touch it till the next.

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Games mechanics based on other game are accepted

By arguement I meant the same thing really as an insult contest

I wish I could play vanilla TF2 again

I wish I could play vanilla Overwatch again

Bro what are you even on about take your shit elsewhere

you didn't play tf2 in 2007
and if you're talking about the console version then just go for it

Gameplay: TF2

Cosmetics: OW

With that being said, I really miss pre-F2P TF2 so bad. Valve now hates mods which is what made the game so much fun. No more community servers either.

I fucking hate that they killed my 3 most played maps because of the community ban update.

Fuck Valve.

TF2 has a lot more charm and appeal to me. I would find Overwatch bearable if the characters werent only meant to appeal to every single demographic. Its just all over the place and at the same time has generic has it gets.

Yes I did, bought the Orange Box. Also played TFC prior to that. Why do you have difficulty believing me?

What was you 3 most played maps?

What maps, user?

TF2 > Paladins > Overwatch

I really want to say TF2 is better but lately it just feels far too restrictive, along with the removal of dedicated servers and the rushing of competitive mode that felt really fire and forget about it.
It IS way more fun and better and I love the plot it has far more than the huge mess Overwatch has with its dumb in media res plotline that's still going nowhere.

This point is also true Team Fortress 2 Time setting mixed with when it was made it's obvious most mercenaries would be white males also call me a soy boy or whatever but some of the deaths in tf2 is horrible being burned to death, blown to Gina or sniped with a head explosion or decapitation it'd seem a bit gruesome if it was a girl forget mortal combat X

But TF2 has never changed that much. Each class still does what they did in 2007.

Thunder Mountain, Hightower and Mountain Lab.

This is correct. Even after the recent Paladins changes.

TF2 is better if you're seeking a casual FPS where absurd shit happens all the time and you're not too terribly concerned with being a maximum tryhard.

Overwatch is better if you're seeking a more competitive "serious" experience where everyone is in maximum tryhard mode.

Overwatch didn't kill TF2.

Valve trying to shove TF2 into being a competitive esport killed TF2.

TF2 was dead before Overwatch was even out.

TF2 not only has smooth gameplay and is still fun. but it has harguably some of the best comedic writing in a video game. Each character has some good banter between each other. Overwatch gameplay I find way to slow. The move speed is slow having infinite ammo I think is dumb and the characters are so generic and boring. No notable lines I can think of the top of my head. Though I stopped playing overwatch at the end of 2016


Im sorry what? Community servers are still around.

TF2 is a shooter, you're expected to aim, have a gun ready that you want to use, and define your roles by selecting every item in loadouts. It wins by default over hotbar babysitting 27+ characters but only 1 role.

Also TF2 has user made content. Maps, hats, guns (that valve decide actual balance on). Overwatch STILL doesn't even have a mapmaker.

>community ban update

What.

Community servers still exist in the way that if you enjoy 24/7 2Fort, Goldrush, or Dustbowl, or if you have a hard-on for Vs. Saxton Hale, there's a shitload of them.

If you just want a decent server that's always active and has a random map rotation including some of the better custom maps, well you're shit out of luck because those don't really exist anymore.

>tfw remembering all the fun times had on a regular community server on maps such as Gasworks, Warpath, and Toyfort.

Not really, they replaced a lot of the weapons, like the reserve shooter on the pyro. It even had a tip on the loading screen telling you you could airblast someone and finish him off with the reserve.

Now that's no longer the case.

There are other weapons that were changed dramatically.

Here in TF2 you'd fight broken with broken and that's what made the game fun.

Now they're just nerfing weapons back and forth to appeal the casual crowd.

Yes but not to the extent that everyone thinks. You see valve made it so if you pick quick play it would not take you to random servers anymore. A lot of my community servers died because of this and just kept the maps everyone already knew.

Fuck valve.

Shut up and post the frag kinos from both games

soon

You think they are nerfing weapons? Look at the pyro now and soldier. Though I do think the matchmaking game was a negative hit to the game. They should have kept matchmaking to competitive only. Now I cant rotate ctf anymore.

>Nerfing weapons back and forth to appeal to the casual crowd

Actually they're nerfing them to appeal to the competitive crowd. Which is laughably small.

Who's this braphog

How are those maps dead? Tons of people play the first two and you can still find an occasional game of Mountain Lab as well.

>You see valve made it so if you pick quick play it would not take you to random servers anymore. A lot of my community servers died because of this
This is the worst. Hell, even half of the official maps are dead now because in addition to being randomly assigned to servers full of shitters thanks to Quickplay, said shitters only vote for 1 of 3 maps. You'll never end up on a map randomly and have these people discover that they're actually fun.

in b4 map editor is very limited

oh well at least i can actually play some genji tennis with little obstructions

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>mfw this works

m8 community servers died because of that ad shit most people were putting in their servers

This was a problem, but not the only one. If you browse community servers now, they are filled to the brim with stupid fucking mods. I don't know if Quickplay amplified this problem by making them think they needed annoying hooks to bring people in, or if Quickplay was just the solution.

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>the greedy jews at valve killed community servers and decided to focus their efforts on making a card game
>you have to BUY sprays now
>modding will probably be banned if there are future valve titles

Wtf I hate valve now

I just used a config to block those. Fuck the servers that used them.

>buy sprays
In what shitty game is this cause that aint the case for TF2

not him but in csgo sprays are very limited design choices that you have to pay to get in a case or hope you find. they also have a limited use of like 30 before it disappears from your inventory

p-paladins has an owl character and a snow owl skin aswell
can we be included or no

Wow. That is shit. I guess we knew Gabe was on the dark path back when they tried to do paid mods, and tried to tell people modders were in it for the money.

I disagree. TF2's community-run 6v6 scene is way more fun as a competitive game than Overwatch. Becoming a god at TF2's simple but deep movement mechanics is a more rewarding process than learning the counterplay between classes and endless slog of stun mechanics and ultimates.

Many 'pro' TF2 players who left for OW talk off the record about how if there was no money in Overwatch, they'd be back to TF2 in a heartbeat.

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while OW tries new and interesting things and is exceedingly good at them, TF2 has a certain charm to it that never gets old. some kind of wacky, out of control sadistic world that isn't afraid to talk trash.

>OW: everyone is disney super heroes
>TF2: everyone is crazy and violent cartoony mercenaries

>while OW tries new and interesting things and is exceedingly good at them,
Well, not really? I think overwatch plays it extremely safe, its pretty much just "what if moba but fps" with a few imported mechanics from other games. Almost everything from TF2 is more satisfying and feels like it has more weight to it. Overwatch "press ultimate to kill everyone" is nothing compared to wiping out an entire team by yourself in TF2.